Minor league players out of options need to clear waivers

JTSMOOTH · 07-10-2006, 10:58 PM

Every minor league player that is out of options, should have to clear waivers before being able to play at the minor league level, regardless of whether or not they have ever spent a day at the Major League level.

Currently in the game, a player that is on the 40 man roster, yet out of minor league options, is allowed to stay in the minor leagues for as long as a GM chooses.

The correct handling should be that if a team wishes to have a player play at the minor league level who is out of options, the team must first have the player clear waivers. If he clears waivers, then he is allowed to continue to play at the minor league level until the following season, when the scenario repeats it self when opening day rolls around.

It should only affect players on the 40 man roster.

It creates alot of strategy in deciding who makes your 25 man roster out of spring training...

Any chance we can get this fixed?

f.montoya · 07-10-2006, 11:00 PM

Looking into this...

andymac · 07-10-2006, 11:13 PM

Right.

What essentially happens is during spring training, anyone on the 40-man is considered on the "active roster". However, for opening day the active roster size goes back down to 40. At that point, anyone who is sent to the minor leagues must use an option. If they don't have any left, they have to go through waivers.

f.montoya · 07-10-2006, 11:25 PM

Tt# 2158

f.montoya · 07-10-2006, 11:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by andymac

Right.

What essentially happens is during spring training, anyone on the 40-man is considered on the "active roster". However, for opening day the active roster size goes back down to 40. At that point, anyone who is sent to the minor leagues must use an option. If they don't have any left, they have to go through waivers.

I'm pretty sure, but I think you meant "goes back down to 25"?

And so the game is also treating the Spring Training 40 man roster as "active" and really should not? I think that would be the right way to do it. It should be called a "Spring Roster" and act separately from the 25/40.

Correct me if I've made a mistake here in my assessment.

andymac · 07-11-2006, 12:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by f.montoya

I'm pretty sure, but I think you meant "goes back down to 25"?

And so the game is also treating the Spring Training 40 man roster as "active" and really should not? I think that would be the right way to do it. It should be called a "Spring Roster" and act separately from the 25/40.

Correct me if I've made a mistake here in my assessment.

Yes, I meant "goes back down to 25".

You are correct in your assessment as long as one key thing happens. Everyone who is on the 40-man must be sent to your "spring roster".

andymac · 07-11-2006, 12:13 AM

The key is simply this.

Any player on the 40-man roster that begins the season in the minors must either have an option year left or pass through waivers first.

The game already correctly does this if a player gets sent to the minors mid-season. There just needs to be a way to "simulate" getting sent down to the minors at the beginning of the season.

battists · 07-11-2006, 09:19 AM

This has been logged as TT # 2158.

Thanks very much,

Steve

JTSMOOTH · 09-01-2006, 03:20 PM

So is it safe to say, with the final patch being released, that there is no plan to fix this?

Carplos · 09-04-2006, 01:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JTSMOOTH

So is it safe to say, with the final patch being released, that there is no plan to fix this?

Probably not, but there have been several comments about how spring training works so hopefully some changes will be made, including this one.

What's funny is that I think every thread about "bugs" with options and spring training since release has been about how players shouldn't have to use options, when OOTP actually gives the advantage to users/AI over real life.

07-10-2006, 10:58 PM	#1
JTSMOOTH Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 462	Minor league players out of options need to clear waivers Every minor league player that is out of options, should have to clear waivers before being able to play at the minor league level, regardless of whether or not they have ever spent a day at the Major League level. Currently in the game, a player that is on the 40 man roster, yet out of minor league options, is allowed to stay in the minor leagues for as long as a GM chooses. The correct handling should be that if a team wishes to have a player play at the minor league level who is out of options, the team must first have the player clear waivers. If he clears waivers, then he is allowed to continue to play at the minor league level until the following season, when the scenario repeats it self when opening day rolls around. It should only affect players on the 40 man roster. It creates alot of strategy in deciding who makes your 25 man roster out of spring training... Any chance we can get this fixed?

07-10-2006, 11:00 PM	#2
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07-10-2006, 11:13 PM	#3
andymac Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Effingham, IL Posts: 5,725	Right. What essentially happens is during spring training, anyone on the 40-man is considered on the "active roster". However, for opening day the active roster size goes back down to 40. At that point, anyone who is sent to the minor leagues must use an option. If they don't have any left, they have to go through waivers. __________________ June Madness: Links FTB: andymac

07-10-2006, 11:25 PM	#4
f.montoya Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,077	Tt# 2158 __________________ Fidel Montoya Asahi2 Baseball League ex-Commissioner(Historical League Since 2004) Ex-Web Host Current Mod Maker??

07-11-2006, 12:13 AM	#7
andymac Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Effingham, IL Posts: 5,725	The key is simply this. Any player on the 40-man roster that begins the season in the minors must either have an option year left or pass through waivers first. The game already correctly does this if a player gets sent to the minors mid-season. There just needs to be a way to "simulate" getting sent down to the minors at the beginning of the season. __________________ June Madness: Links FTB: andymac Last edited by andymac; 07-11-2006 at 12:14 AM.

07-11-2006, 09:19 AM	#8
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	This has been logged as TT # 2158. Thanks very much, Steve

09-01-2006, 03:20 PM	#9
JTSMOOTH Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Arizona Posts: 462	Hmm So is it safe to say, with the final patch being released, that there is no plan to fix this?