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Old 07-06-2006, 05:11 PM   #81
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Putz...one season wonders do not deserve to be at the level of elite players who have done it for years. Same thing for Papelbon, although his minor league stats suggest he is the real deal. I do agree his stamina should be higher than a normal relievers and he should be rated better than Putz. Putz, I think, should be slightly above average and close to his potential since he's 29.

I think one of the main reasons people post things they think should be changed is this. Say you notice one or two of your guys rated below where you feel they really should be. Well, what if it is like that for a couple of guys per team you just don't know it because you're not as familiar with the other teams. While some may say that you shouldn't miss it then, others would say the roster set isnt very accurate if it misses that many players.

Obviously, I'm not saying that this set is like that, but people giving their thoughts shouldn't automatically be told to change it themselves. You should, hoever, give evidence of why you think the players should be rated higher. You never know who that next superstar is going to be and its always cool to have them develop into one in your sim before they do in real life do to some handy insider info.

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Old 07-06-2006, 05:30 PM   #82
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I was just wandering what you plan on doing with Chris Capuano. 18 wins last year. On pace this year for 15-20. By far the Brewers best pitcher. He plays Sheets doesn't. He was one of the leaders last year in Quality Starts and has had 14 of 16 quality starts this year. A very under rated but great pitcher.
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Old 07-06-2006, 09:19 PM   #83
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Putz...one season wonders do not deserve to be at the level of elite players who have done it for years. Same thing for Papelbon, although his minor league stats suggest he is the real deal. I do agree his stamina should be higher than a normal relievers and he should be rated better than Putz. Putz, I think, should be slightly above average and close to his potential since he's 29.

I think one of the main reasons people post things they think should be changed is this. Say you notice one or two of your guys rated below where you feel they really should be. Well, what if it is like that for a couple of guys per team you just don't know it because you're not as familiar with the other teams. While some may say that you shouldn't miss it then, others would say the roster set isnt very accurate if it misses that many players.

Obviously, I'm not saying that this set is like that, but people giving their thoughts shouldn't automatically be told to change it themselves. You should, hoever, give evidence of why you think the players should be rated higher. You never know who that next superstar is going to be and its always cool to have them develop into one in your sim before they do in real life do to some handy insider info.
Well put Majesty. I am not suggesting that Papelbon have great current ratings as going into the season it was not known he would be this good up to this point. I was lobbying for him to have great potential as a starter due to his minor league stats. I have faith that Cubby and Rolen will put together a quality set and truly appreciate the hard and thorough work they are putting into this set. I just thought I would pass on my theory about Papelbon being a starter.
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Old 07-06-2006, 09:50 PM   #84
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Just wondering what kind of love you'll give Freddy Sanchez of the Pirates. I read alot of stuff (outside of Pittsburgh) saying he has star quality potential to him.
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:33 AM   #85
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Freddy Sanchez: He has always shown the ability to hit for a high average, but may be hurt based on his three year splits due to injuries.

My main question is: while testing the rosters, Are there a ton of callups? One of the sole reasons I haven't been able to get into some previous rosters is because there's been way too many callups. Particularly with pitchers. While I don't expect it to exactly mirror real life, when 50 % of most pitching staffs turn over within the first month, it breaks the realism.
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Old 07-07-2006, 07:58 PM   #86
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Just wondering what you're going to rate Jason Repko's speed. Last year his ratings were 1 for speed but he is EXTREMELY fast and probably faster than Furcal on the Dodgers.
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Old 07-07-2006, 09:37 PM   #87
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I'm a big Pirate fan and they never get any love cause yeah they do suck as a team. However, they do have some great talent there. I just hope to see them get some decent talent potenial.
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Old 07-08-2006, 03:11 PM   #88
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Old 07-08-2006, 03:58 PM   #89
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Also wondering how you guys will rate Sergio Pedroza. He his hitting .290,.450 OBP,550+ SGL%. But I won't ever get a ****ing answer in here.
Oh, dear.
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Old 07-09-2006, 12:10 PM   #90
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What kind of ratings do you think Cubby will give Mauer, Liriano, and Morneau?
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Old 07-09-2006, 12:28 PM   #91
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What kind of ratings do you think Cubby will give Mauer, Liriano, and Morneau?
Or the Twins other two pitchers (Garza and Slowey) that look even better than Santana and Liriano - it is frightning looking at the Twins pitching prospects.

Santana, Liriano, Garza, Slowey, and Perkins will be the starting rotation for the Twins by 2008...that is a scarry rotation. I am not sure what they are going to do with Durbin, Bosner, and Baker (the last two have looked like NORMAL rookies and have been hit hard in their first year - I guess Twins fans must be spoiled)

As for the rating of Liriano - I am not sure how you can rate him in the game like the god like stats he is putting up - there is only one other pitcher in history that has come into the league like that and his stats were grossly affected by the park he pitched in (in 1968). I just dont think there is a big enough sample size...though he has blown away every level he has played at and Baseball Prospectus seems to think he is "breaking out"

There have been only 3 SP's in the AL that have had sub 2 ERA's in the past 30 years after a full season. I find it pretty hard to believe the kid (22 years old) can keep that up - however, he is nearing the shutout innings record for the Twins by a SP...
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Old 07-09-2006, 04:50 PM   #92
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Garza and Slowey DO NOT look better than Liriano and Santana.
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Old 07-09-2006, 05:08 PM   #93
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Yeah,no way Garza and Slowey are better than them.
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Old 07-09-2006, 05:41 PM   #94
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If you look at what those two are doing this year - they are putting up some pretty crazy numbers.

Will they turn into Santana/Liriano part 2? We wont know for awhile but their numbers this year are better than what those two had done at the smae levels.

Actually - Santana put up pretty bad numbers in limited IP in the minors.
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Old 07-09-2006, 06:47 PM   #95
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If you look at what those two are doing this year - they are putting up some pretty crazy numbers.

Will they turn into Santana/Liriano part 2? We wont know for awhile but their numbers this year are better than what those two had done at the smae levels.

Actually - Santana put up pretty bad numbers in limited IP in the minors.
Did you happen to notice that both Garza and Slowey were college pitchers. Of course they are going to be doing better in single A than a couple of kids from Latin America. They've had better coaching for more years. Wait to see what they do in AA before praising them too highly.
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Old 07-09-2006, 07:08 PM   #96
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They are at AA now...

They are in AA now...

Garza - 10 starts
Slowey has 3


They are all very similar in age (outside of Santana)
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Old 07-10-2006, 12:18 AM   #97
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Old 07-10-2006, 11:49 PM   #98
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Kyle Denney

SP Kyle Denney has a low 90s fastball with good movement. His best pitch and out pitch is his curveball, which clocks in the 76-80 range. He also throws a change and a two-seamer, and his k/IP rate is above average.

His career highlites include coming within one out of a perfect game in Triple-A, only to have a fly ball bounce off the glove of Ryan Ludwick (ruled a hit).

He was also shot in the leg while wearing a USC Trojans cheerleading outfit. What a guy.
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Old 07-11-2006, 12:10 AM   #99
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SP Kyle Denney has a low 90s fastball with good movement. His best pitch and out pitch is his curveball, which clocks in the 76-80 range. He also throws a change and a two-seamer, and his k/IP rate is above average.

His career highlites include coming within one out of a perfect game in Triple-A, only to have a fly ball bounce off the glove of Ryan Ludwick (ruled a hit).

He was also shot in the leg while wearing a USC Trojans cheerleading outfit. What a guy.
This was your first post? To pimp a AAAA player?

http://thebaseballcube.com/players/D/kyle-denney.shtml

A little weird
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This was your first post? To pimp a AAAA player?

http://thebaseballcube.com/players/D/kyle-denney.shtml

A little weird
He was one of the players Cubby was asking for scouting reports on. Still using your first post to call a cross dresser a man is a little odd.
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