Injured Player

metspr · 06-03-2006, 11:19 AM

Im in Spring Training and I call up a 21 year Rookie to see how he performs. He was injured, Day-to-Day for 4 days. Now Im in opening day and I want to demote him to AAA but I cant, it says "Put him on the DL instead". He is Day-to-Day and I want to demote him and not place him on the DL.

f.montoya · 06-03-2006, 11:31 AM

This issue has been noted. TT# 1642 Thanks!

Faroo6 · 06-10-2006, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by f.montoya

This issue has been noted. TT# 1642 Thanks!

Was this not fixed in the patch? I'm still having the same issue.

battists · 06-30-2006, 11:03 AM

This issue has not yet been resolved. Just to clarify, you'd like to be able to demote this player to AAA, but the game will not allow it because you cannot demote injured players. Is that correct?

I believe for now the only option is to DL him for 15 days, and then demote him when he comes off.

Does anyone know what the rules are around demoting injured players in MLB?

Comedian2004 · 06-30-2006, 11:36 AM

They demote them to AAA for 'rehab' all the time.

D. Young is down there now...

battists · 06-30-2006, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Comedian2004

They demote them to AAA for 'rehab' all the time.

D. Young is down there now...

Good point. But if that's the case, why can't they just demote injured players instead of using the DL?

tysok · 06-30-2006, 11:52 AM

To add to this... you can move injured players around the minors all you want. It's a good thing, but you should be able to demote from the ML roster as well if they're injured.

In reality, I think, the minors have a DL as well... I just heard someone say so on here though.
It would be too much to try to handle if you as the GM have to handle minor league DLs as well... you should just be able to demote him and let him die in the minors.

battists · 06-30-2006, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tysok

you should just be able to demote him and let him die in the minors.

So, how do you guys suggest Markus handle this without turning this into a loophole where you can dump any injured player into the minors without having to have him on the DL?

What are the minor league option years ramifications of this? I'm guessing rehab starts don't impact option years.

andymac · 06-30-2006, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

So, how do you guys suggest Markus handle this without turning this into a loophole where you can dump any injured player into the minors without having to have him on the DL?

What are the minor league option years ramifications of this? I'm guessing rehab starts don't impact option years.

I would say you should be able to demote players with day-to-day injuries (using same rules as a normal demotion), but not players who are "out".

tysok · 06-30-2006, 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by andymac

I would say you should be able to demote players with day-to-day injuries (using same rules as a normal demotion), but not players who are "out".

I would agree. The only problem is that the guy you wanted to demote you obviously aren't going to have him in mind and watching for him... so he could stay on the DL all year right now.
Once there's notification that a guy is ready to come off the DL, that solution would work fine.

I don't think the game needs to worry about the rules of rehab demotions, since players don't need rehabs. If it worked under the same rules of demotion it would work just as well.

andymac · 06-30-2006, 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by tysok

The only problem is that the guy you wanted to demote you obviously aren't going to have him in mind and watching for him... so he could stay on the DL all year right now.
Once there's notification that a guy is ready to come off the DL, that solution would work fine.

Well, I would hope you aren't going to completely forget about guys being on the DL just because you may not want him on your 25-man.

At the same time, though, I do think it is a problem that guys can just sit on the DL forever whether they are injured or not. I wouldn't mind coding the game to force the player off the DL when he is no longer injured...maybe move him over to DFA or something.

tysok · 06-30-2006, 03:49 PM

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Originally Posted by andymac

Well, I would hope you aren't going to completely forget about guys being on the DL just because you may not want him on your 25-man.

At the same time, though, I do think it is a problem that guys can just sit on the DL forever whether they are injured or not. I wouldn't mind coding the game to force the player off the DL when he is no longer injured...maybe move him over to DFA or something.

I don't spend a lot of time looking at my minor league guys until there's an emergency call up, so I COULD forget about him until another guy is injured. Esepecially if he's one of the old guys that are only there for emergencies.

The second part I agree with. He could just sit there all year, which is just wrong. It needs to alert you that he's able to play again and time is up and he has to come off... just like it does when a DFA assignment has outlasted its time limit.

Faroo6 · 07-03-2006, 08:34 PM

I agree with only allowing a demotion of a day to day injury, and even if you did demote injured players its not a huge advantage over the 15 DL because of the "have to stay in the minors for 10 days" rule.

Questdog · 07-03-2006, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by tysok

The second part I agree with. He could just sit there all year, which is just wrong. It needs to alert you that he's able to play again and time is up and he has to come off... just like it does when a DFA assignment has outlasted its time limit.

100%...

the demotion of injured players should only be allowed, if the "10 day rule" is enforced....

06-03-2006, 11:19 AM	#1
metspr Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jan 2006 Posts: 39	Injured Player Im in Spring Training and I call up a 21 year Rookie to see how he performs. He was injured, Day-to-Day for 4 days. Now Im in opening day and I want to demote him to AAA but I cant, it says "Put him on the DL instead". He is Day-to-Day and I want to demote him and not place him on the DL.

06-03-2006, 11:31 AM	#2
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06-30-2006, 11:03 AM	#4
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	This issue has not yet been resolved. Just to clarify, you'd like to be able to demote this player to AAA, but the game will not allow it because you cannot demote injured players. Is that correct? I believe for now the only option is to DL him for 15 days, and then demote him when he comes off. Does anyone know what the rules are around demoting injured players in MLB?

06-30-2006, 11:52 AM	#7
tysok Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 4,925	To add to this... you can move injured players around the minors all you want. It's a good thing, but you should be able to demote from the ML roster as well if they're injured. In reality, I think, the minors have a DL as well... I just heard someone say so on here though. It would be too much to try to handle if you as the GM have to handle minor league DLs as well... you should just be able to demote him and let him die in the minors.