Food for thought this weekend - OOTP Baseball 2006 Patch 2 update - Page 2

Marc Duffy · 06-30-2006, 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by storytyme

Has there been any movement to get bullpen warm-ups put in the game. Being a manage-only player the need to warm up relievers before putting them into the game is a bit of strategy that is greatly needed. It just seems to take some of the realism out of it for me. I hope something can be worked out on it, would make a great game the best of all time!

Thanks for all the hard work you guys are doing! It is greatly appreciated!!!

Yes, there is an entry for this on the fixlist and word is that it's working well

Cooleyvol · 06-30-2006, 04:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc Duffy

It's most certainly NOT being ignored!

Ignored as far as I'm concerned is taking 20 days to let me know its being worked on. That's ignored to me.

But, you've yet to say it'll be fixed in this patch. Can you say that at this point?

Questdog · 06-30-2006, 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Cooleyvol

Ignored as far as I'm concerned is taking 20 days to let me know its being worked on. That's ignored to me.

But, you've yet to say it'll be fixed in this patch. Can you say that at this point?

I just wish some of you guys would chill out.

Now, I'm no fanboy, to be sure, but I have been VERY impressed with the effort of the producers of this game to get things fixed.

This release of OOTP was a HUGE undertaking for a single programmer. It is totally unrealistic to have expected him to have everything just right from the get go....

How many games and software from much bigger operations get released with bugs and AI issues? I mean, Microsoft is STILL issuing fixes for programs they released 10 years ago! And most games that I've bought have had one patch release to fix major bugs and then were left to fend for themselves....

And I don't care if you paid full price or got a discount, you got a LOT of bang for your buck in this game.

So, quit the whining and let us enjoy the process of refining a GREAT new baseball experience...

love is all you need....

Marc Duffy · 06-30-2006, 04:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Cooleyvol

Ignored as far as I'm concerned is taking 20 days to let me know its being worked on. That's ignored to me.

But, you've yet to say it'll be fixed in this patch. Can you say that at this point?

Untill I get the bug numbers or exact problems you refer to I wont commit.

I will tell you that Solonor is testing the patch and in particular online stuff so I'm sure he has his ear to the ground with regards to the issues and has been reporting them

Please do not take it personally that you have not had a response, it's been a busy few weeks with a lot of work and progress being made on the game in all areas including online

His Own Bad Self · 06-30-2006, 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Questdog

I just wish some of you guys would chill out.

This release of OOTP was a HUGE undertaking for a single programmer. It is totally unrealistic to have expected him to have everything just right from the get go....

How many games and software from much bigger operations get released with bugs and AI issues? I mean, Microsoft, is STILL issuing fixes for programs they released 10 years ago! And most games that I've bought have had one patch release to fix major bugs and then were left to fend for themselves....

Quit the whining....

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By the way, all the complaining can't be making Markus' job any easier.

molarmite · 06-30-2006, 04:54 PM

Thanks for being so active with this community. I don't think we realize how lucky we are to have two guys this involved with us.

Marc Duffy · 06-30-2006, 05:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jdawgsenior

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By the way, all the complaining can't be making Markus' job any easier.

To be honest, thats what I am here for. Markus has 100% concentration on the code.

disposableheros · 06-30-2006, 05:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cooleyvol

Once again, this issue is totally ignored. I tell you what, those who were here know that online leagues made OOTP in its earlier versions. For leagues to be totally ignored for weeks is more than a bit trying for me. I've almost reached my breaking point where I'm ready to leave this game to those that want international baseball worlds played solo--that is what this game was written for, after all.
All online league stuff seems to be an 'afterthought' as far as how it was put in the game. I mean, really, if you don't include a one button ftp import that works properly, how much could online leagues have really been tested?

an online league for the beta testers was something i suggested a long time ago (check the suggestions forum) and nobody hopped on board (no outcry, means not important around here). i was told not to worry. i worried and bumped the thread. i was told not to worry again. i worried more.

online league stuff has taken a back seat and IMO, its because there isnt the same level of outcry as there is for some other issues.

TheoR · 06-30-2006, 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jdawgsenior

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By the way, all the complaining can't be making Markus' job any easier.

You know what..........

I will most likely get blasted for this, but.................

We need to all stop pretending none of this is Marcus' doing.........

Marc keeps saying Marcus makes the calls......so.........why did he let this happen to such a wonderfull game?

Marc Duffy · 06-30-2006, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by TheoR

Marc keeps saying Marcus makes the calls......so.........why did he let this happen to such a wonderfull game?

Le what happen Theo? you are rambling around trying to stir things up.

Markus has been and always will be the creative force behind the game

Joshv02 · 06-30-2006, 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc Duffy

This bug is in our Testtrack software and like I said the list i posted is not final. There is a mountain of technical support forum bugs to do this weekend .. this list will balloon by the 7th

Great - thanks.

Marc - do you know if there are answers to these two posts in the locked patch update thread re: the new patch?

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...7&postcount=87

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...5&postcount=88

TheoR · 06-30-2006, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc Duffy

Le what happen Theo? you are rambling around trying to stir things up.

Markus has been and always will be the creative force behind the game

The main part of my gripe is that too many things that were in ootp6.5 are missing. I guess that doesn't mean it doesn't work as advertised as you made sure to tell us it did, but to me that is a bad step forward.

Had I known that, I'd waited on spending my money.

targy · 06-30-2006, 06:15 PM

WEATHER/STARS Please

jackflash · 06-30-2006, 06:17 PM

I am 100% behind Cooley on this one. The import all feature is an absolute must. Its not bickering or complaining but its wanting what we paid for.

targy · 06-30-2006, 06:24 PM

I have been loyal to this game since the 1st version. I have posted many messages about the lack of weather and star ratings. As I have read on many a post, there are many loyal players of this game that have asked for weather and star ratings. Please allow us an answer as to why these two issues have not been addressed and I would like an answer from Markus only please. See weather plays a big part in basbeball form scheduling to making decisions about starting pitchers and lineups. Weather has affected the decisions of many a manager and drivin them crazy with the changes they have to make. Markus please give us weather back if not in this patch in a future patch and the ability to use it or not to use it, as for Stars, it made it just a little easier to judge a players ability at a quick glance. I would like stars but if that can't happen that one I can live without.....

Poleaxe · 06-30-2006, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc Duffy

It's most certainly NOT being ignored!

Cooley has obviously reached a point of frustration that has tipped over into being mad. Perhaps continued calm would be better, but I understand where he is coming from.

I bought this game on 6/10/06 to participate in a 30 man online league. A league that is waiting on the patch to get started. I've been checking out the forums fairly regularly looking for information and for a while saw little comment on online leagues. In fact, what I mostly saw was Cooley trying different things and helping other people with their problems.

I'm not mad, I'm new to the game and the three weeks probably helped me get up to speed. In fact, I'm enjoying the single player (except when I lost the seventh game of the world series- ****ed Devil Rays).

But I can certainly understand someone feeling like oline leagues were being neglected.

JTWood · 06-30-2006, 07:02 PM

I just want to say that I am grateful for these "rushed" fixes. I'd rather have a game that's less broken than a game that's totally broken.

His Own Bad Self · 06-30-2006, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Marc Duffy

To be honest, thats what I am here for. Markus has 100% concentration on the code.

Point well taken. I was merely considering the idea that, given all of the work Markus has put into making OOTP a success, I wouldn't be surprised if he feels as much pressure as anyone else (if not more than anyone else) to make sure that this game's flaws are corrected, even without reading some of the posts that people have made.

Marc Duffy · 06-30-2006, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by jdawgsenior

Point well taken. I was merely considering the idea that, given all of the work Markus has put into making OOTP a success, I wouldn't be surprised if he feels as much pressure as anyone else (if not more than anyone else) to make sure that this game's flaws are corrected, even without reading some of the posts that people have made.

I'm sure he does, he more than anyone wants to get things right!

Zitofan75 · 06-30-2006, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by targy

I have been loyal to this game since the 1st version. I have posted many messages about the lack of weather and star ratings. As I have read on many a post, there are many loyal players of this game that have asked for weather and star ratings. Please allow us an answer as to why these two issues have not been addressed and I would like an answer from Markus only please. See weather plays a big part in basbeball form scheduling to making decisions about starting pitchers and lineups. Weather has affected the decisions of many a manager and drivin them crazy with the changes they have to make. Markus please give us weather back if not in this patch in a future patch and the ability to use it or not to use it, as for Stars, it made it just a little easier to judge a players ability at a quick glance. I would like stars but if that can't happen that one I can live without.....

Targy I'm not Markus but have you seen the overall ratings that show up in the transaction screens? I'm not sure if they work without scouts (as I always use them) but they are the replacement for stars and so far as I've seen they do a better job (not every reliever is 4-5 stars).

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06-30-2006, 06:15 PM	#33
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06-30-2006, 06:17 PM	#34
jackflash Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 281	I am 100% behind Cooley on this one. The import all feature is an absolute must. Its not bickering or complaining but its wanting what we paid for. __________________ "You can observe alot by watching" - Yogi Berra

06-30-2006, 06:24 PM	#35
targy All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Clearwater, FL Posts: 1,152	I have been loyal to this game since the 1st version. I have posted many messages about the lack of weather and star ratings. As I have read on many a post, there are many loyal players of this game that have asked for weather and star ratings. Please allow us an answer as to why these two issues have not been addressed and I would like an answer from Markus only please. See weather plays a big part in basbeball form scheduling to making decisions about starting pitchers and lineups. Weather has affected the decisions of many a manager and drivin them crazy with the changes they have to make. Markus please give us weather back if not in this patch in a future patch and the ability to use it or not to use it, as for Stars, it made it just a little easier to judge a players ability at a quick glance. I would like stars but if that can't happen that one I can live without..... __________________ www.emerge180.com

06-30-2006, 07:02 PM	#37
JTWood Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 164	I just want to say that I am grateful for these "rushed" fixes. I'd rather have a game that's less broken than a game that's totally broken.