Joe Nobody's

Bobble · 06-09-2006, 10:33 AM

I understood that the Joe Nobody problem was to be solved with the first patch but I'm still getting them.

- Installed the patch.
- Imported a 6.5 league (Beer League)
- Added all minors
- Imported another 6.5 league (Fermentation League)
- Added all minors
- Found some Joe Nobody's

It's not a big deal to me but I thought I should let someone know.

Raidergoo · 06-09-2006, 12:18 PM

what nationality?

Another Mike D · 06-09-2006, 12:45 PM

I am using the demo, I imported my 6.5 league and simmed to the All-Star break. I currently have about 20 nobodys in my league.

You can check out the league here. I went through the teams and saw at least 10 different nobodys.

Solonor · 06-09-2006, 04:39 PM

I got a huge number of Joe Nobody's (and other Nobody's), too. Most of them occurred in Nation #1 (that's the one I modified to be "Hobbits" for our league). Yes, this is the patched version.

Another Mike D · 06-09-2006, 05:01 PM

In my imported UBL league, as of now, the following Nobody's exist.

Gaspard Nobody (Venezuelan)
Sol Nobody (American)
Cesar Nobody (Panamanian)
Flavio Nobody (American)
11 Joe Nobody (Cuban, 2 American)
Lobo Nobody (Dominican) he's my favorite!
Abran Nobody (American)
Amor Nobody (Puerto Rican)
Antonio Nobody (American)
Armando Nobody (American)
Arnaldo Nobody (American)
Caton Nobody (Venezuelan)
Eliazar Nobody (Mexican)
Estanislau Nobody (American of course)
Gabino Nobody (Says born in Florida and he's Cuban, nice)
Juliano Nobody
Leandro Nobody
Mauro Nobody
Montel Nobody
Montes Nobody
Natalio Nobody
Pablo Nobody
Ramon Nobody

Tired of finding out where they're from because there's no difference.

I also found a Joe Numbers and Phil Newcomer.

Raidergoo · 06-09-2006, 05:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solonor

I got a huge number of Joe Nobody's (and other Nobody's), too. Most of them occurred in Nation #1 (that's the one I modified to be "Hobbits" for our league). Yes, this is the patched version.

post your nations.txt line

Solonor · 06-09-2006, 05:22 PM

This is my entire nations.txt file in the modified Middle Earth version.

ID,Country Long,Country Short,Abbr,Nationality,Region,Baseball Level,Ethnicity1,%,Ethnicity2,%,Ethnicity3,%,Ethni city4,%
1,Dwarven Lands,Dwarf,DWF,Dwarf,,5,0,100,,,,,,
2,Hobbit Lands,Hobbit,HOB,Hobbit,,5,1,100,,,,,,
3,Human Lands,Human,HUM,Human,,5,2,100,,,,,,
4,Elven Lands,Elf,ELF,Elf,,5,3,100,,,,,,
5,Orc Lands,Orc,ORC,Orc,,5,4,100,,,,,,
6,Unknown Lands,Unknown,UNK,Unknown,,5,0,25,2,25,3,25,4,25

I have 5 name sets to go with it.

0 = Dwarven names
1 = Hobbit names
2 = Human names
3 = Elven names
4 = Orcish names

I am going to test the same conversion with the default nations and names and see if I get a bunch of nobody's.

Raidergoo · 06-09-2006, 05:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Another Mike D

In my imported UBL league, as of now, the following Nobody's exist.

Lobo Nobody (Dominican) he's my favorite!

Tired of finding out where they're from because there's no difference.

I also found a Joe Numbers and Phil Newcomer.

Is Lobo any good?

Joe Numbers is theoretically possible, as well as Phil Newcomer.

Probably not, in your case, tied to one specific line in nations.txt

Another Mike D · 06-09-2006, 05:28 PM

Well, I didn't modify anything, just installed the trial, imported and ran. Suddenly there are Nobodys and other players popping up everywhere.

Raidergoo · 06-09-2006, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solonor

This is my entire nations.txt file in the modified Middle Earth version.

ID,Country Long,Country Short,Abbr,Nationality,Region,Baseball Level,Ethnicity1,%,Ethnicity2,%,Ethnicity3,%,Ethni city4,%
1,Dwarven Lands,Dwarf,DWF,Dwarf,,5,0,100,,,,,,
2,Hobbit Lands,Hobbit,HOB,Hobbit,,5,1,100,,,,,,
3,Human Lands,Human,HUM,Human,,5,2,100,,,,,,
4,Elven Lands,Elf,ELF,Elf,,5,3,100,,,,,,
5,Orc Lands,Orc,ORC,Orc,,5,4,100,,,,,,
6,Unknown Lands,Unknown,UNK,Unknown,,5,0,25,2,25,3,25,4,25

Compare:

228,Moldova,Moldova,MDL,Moldovan,3,1,35,87,13,13

I think there is one too may commas. Try deleting one comma in each nation line where you have double commas. I bolded them for referance. Start a new league.

Solonor · 06-09-2006, 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raidergoo

Compare:

228,Moldova,Moldova,MDL,Moldovan,3,1,35,87,13,13

I think there is one too may commas. Try deleting one comma in each nation line where you have double commas. I bolded them for referance. Start a new league.

Actually, yours doesn't look right to me... I left that space there, because that's where the continent goes. Plus, yours has an odd number of ethnicities (either that or the baseball quality number is missing).

Shouldn't it be:

ID,Nation,Short,Abbrev,Nationality,Continent,Quali ty,Ethnicity 1, pct, Eth 2, pct, Eth 3, pct, Eth 4, pct

Raidergoo · 06-09-2006, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Another Mike D

Well, I didn't modify anything, just installed the trial, imported and ran. Suddenly there are Nobodys and other players popping up everywhere.

Can you compare stat lines from your UBL and the OOTP 2006 import to confirm that there was a Gaspard UNKNOWN last name that got transformed into Nobody?

Raidergoo · 06-09-2006, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Solonor

Actually, yours doesn't look right to me... I left that space there, because that's where the continent goes. Plus, yours has an odd number of ethnicities (either that or the baseball quality number is missing).

Shouldn't it be:

ID,Nation,Short,Abbrev,Nationality,Continent,Quali ty,Ethnicity 1, pct, Eth 2, pct, Eth 3, pct, Eth 4, pct

Here is a known good entry. . .

206,The United States,U.S.A.,USA,American,4,5,0,71,1,27,2,2

Try placing a value in for continents. See what happens.

I am getting sloppy and sleepy and it is only 545 PM.

Solonor · 06-09-2006, 05:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raidergoo

Here is a known good entry. . .

206,The United States,U.S.A.,USA,American,4,5,0,71,1,27,2,2

Try placing a value in for continents. See what happens.

I will do that. I think it's a separate point, though, because I just finished re-importing using the default nations and names, and I still got Joe Nobody's (not as many, but they are still getting created). Various nations.

Solonor · 06-10-2006, 10:22 AM

This is interesting... I changed my nations around, trying different things. When I changed my Dwarven Lands nation to be ID 1, it became the one to get all the Nobody's instead of the Hobbits. It apparently has something to do with that nation id.

battists · 06-30-2006, 11:08 AM

I've been testing this a bit today in the next patch, and I can't get nobodys to create.

I imported a 6.5 league, added all minors, added a fictional league, and no nobodies. Then I imported a 6.5 league, added all minors individually, added a historical league, added all minors . . . no nobodies.

So, I'm cautiously optimistic that this has been finally resolved in the next patch.

However, as people have indicated, you will always get nobodies if the game tries to generate a name from an invalid name set. So you want to check that out as well.

Solonor · 06-30-2006, 01:10 PM

I tested it with the latest build, too. Looks good.

Another Mike D · 06-30-2006, 01:14 PM

What they said. The problem was with 6.5 imports and appears to be fixed.

battists · 06-30-2006, 02:02 PM

OK, moving to Claim Fixed. w00t

06-09-2006, 12:45 PM	#3
Another Mike D All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: atl Posts: 891	I am using the demo, I imported my 6.5 league and simmed to the All-Star break. I currently have about 20 nobodys in my league. You can check out the league here. I went through the teams and saw at least 10 different nobodys. __________________ San Diego Padres NexGen Baseball League Cleveland Indians United Baseball League Co-commissioner of United Baseball League

06-09-2006, 04:39 PM	#4
Solonor Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maine Posts: 4,467	I got a huge number of Joe Nobody's (and other Nobody's), too. Most of them occurred in Nation #1 (that's the one I modified to be "Hobbits" for our league). Yes, this is the patched version. __________________ Solonor's Groovy Computer Baseball League - Making baseball a hobbit since 2003! "Beings will come, Frodo. The one constant through all the years has been baseball. Middle Earth has rolled by like an army of Mumakil. It has been erased like a slate, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Frodo. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... beings will come Frodo. Beings will most definitely come." - Gladden Field of Dreams Last edited by Solonor; 06-09-2006 at 05:03 PM.

06-09-2006, 05:01 PM	#5
Another Mike D All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: atl Posts: 891	In my imported UBL league, as of now, the following Nobody's exist. Gaspard Nobody (Venezuelan) Sol Nobody (American) Cesar Nobody (Panamanian) Flavio Nobody (American) 11 Joe Nobody (Cuban, 2 American) Lobo Nobody (Dominican) he's my favorite! Abran Nobody (American) Amor Nobody (Puerto Rican) Antonio Nobody (American) Armando Nobody (American) Arnaldo Nobody (American) Caton Nobody (Venezuelan) Eliazar Nobody (Mexican) Estanislau Nobody (American of course) Gabino Nobody (Says born in Florida and he's Cuban, nice) Juliano Nobody Leandro Nobody Mauro Nobody Montel Nobody Montes Nobody Natalio Nobody Pablo Nobody Ramon Nobody Tired of finding out where they're from because there's no difference. I also found a Joe Numbers and Phil Newcomer. __________________ San Diego Padres NexGen Baseball League Cleveland Indians United Baseball League Co-commissioner of United Baseball League

06-09-2006, 05:22 PM	#7
Solonor Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maine Posts: 4,467	This is my entire nations.txt file in the modified Middle Earth version. ID,Country Long,Country Short,Abbr,Nationality,Region,Baseball Level,Ethnicity1,%,Ethnicity2,%,Ethnicity3,%,Ethni city4,% 1,Dwarven Lands,Dwarf,DWF,Dwarf,,5,0,100,,,,,, 2,Hobbit Lands,Hobbit,HOB,Hobbit,,5,1,100,,,,,, 3,Human Lands,Human,HUM,Human,,5,2,100,,,,,, 4,Elven Lands,Elf,ELF,Elf,,5,3,100,,,,,, 5,Orc Lands,Orc,ORC,Orc,,5,4,100,,,,,, 6,Unknown Lands,Unknown,UNK,Unknown,,5,0,25,2,25,3,25,4,25 I have 5 name sets to go with it. 0 = Dwarven names 1 = Hobbit names 2 = Human names 3 = Elven names 4 = Orcish names I am going to test the same conversion with the default nations and names and see if I get a bunch of nobody's. __________________ Solonor's Groovy Computer Baseball League - Making baseball a hobbit since 2003! "Beings will come, Frodo. The one constant through all the years has been baseball. Middle Earth has rolled by like an army of Mumakil. It has been erased like a slate, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Frodo. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... beings will come Frodo. Beings will most definitely come." - Gladden Field of Dreams

06-09-2006, 05:28 PM	#9
Another Mike D All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: atl Posts: 891	Well, I didn't modify anything, just installed the trial, imported and ran. Suddenly there are Nobodys and other players popping up everywhere. __________________ San Diego Padres NexGen Baseball League Cleveland Indians United Baseball League Co-commissioner of United Baseball League

06-09-2006, 10:33 AM	#1
Bobble Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: High and outside Posts: 4,036	Joe Nobody's I understood that the Joe Nobody problem was to be solved with the first patch but I'm still getting them. - Installed the patch. - Imported a 6.5 league (Beer League) - Added all minors - Imported another 6.5 league (Fermentation League) - Added all minors - Found some Joe Nobody's It's not a big deal to me but I thought I should let someone know. __________________

06-09-2006, 12:18 PM	#2
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 9,005	what nationality?

06-10-2006, 10:22 AM	#15
Solonor Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maine Posts: 4,467	This is interesting... I changed my nations around, trying different things. When I changed my Dwarven Lands nation to be ID 1, it became the one to get all the Nobody's instead of the Hobbits. It apparently has something to do with that nation id. __________________ Solonor's Groovy Computer Baseball League - Making baseball a hobbit since 2003! "Beings will come, Frodo. The one constant through all the years has been baseball. Middle Earth has rolled by like an army of Mumakil. It has been erased like a slate, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Frodo. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... beings will come Frodo. Beings will most definitely come." - Gladden Field of Dreams Last edited by Solonor; 06-12-2006 at 04:18 PM.

06-30-2006, 11:08 AM	#16
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	I've been testing this a bit today in the next patch, and I can't get nobodys to create. I imported a 6.5 league, added all minors, added a fictional league, and no nobodies. Then I imported a 6.5 league, added all minors individually, added a historical league, added all minors . . . no nobodies. So, I'm cautiously optimistic that this has been finally resolved in the next patch. However, as people have indicated, you will always get nobodies if the game tries to generate a name from an invalid name set. So you want to check that out as well.

06-30-2006, 01:10 PM	#17
Solonor Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Maine Posts: 4,467	I tested it with the latest build, too. Looks good. __________________ Solonor's Groovy Computer Baseball League - Making baseball a hobbit since 2003! "Beings will come, Frodo. The one constant through all the years has been baseball. Middle Earth has rolled by like an army of Mumakil. It has been erased like a slate, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Frodo. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... beings will come Frodo. Beings will most definitely come." - Gladden Field of Dreams

06-30-2006, 01:14 PM	#18
Another Mike D All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: atl Posts: 891	What they said. The problem was with 6.5 imports and appears to be fixed. __________________ San Diego Padres NexGen Baseball League Cleveland Indians United Baseball League Co-commissioner of United Baseball League

06-30-2006, 02:02 PM	#19
battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	OK, moving to Claim Fixed. w00t