Just bought PureSim

JimG · 06-07-2006, 11:48 PM

Installing now and wondering why PureSim is over 200 MB, Mogul is 100 MB, and OOTP is only 33 MB.

I would have assumed the exact opposite. With all the screens and graphics OOTP has youd think it would be the biggest.

Jim

Cooleyvol · 06-07-2006, 11:50 PM

Shouldn't this be in OT or somewhere other than here?

JimG · 06-07-2006, 11:52 PM

Because I mention PureSim? And Mogul? This isnt any more OT than half the other posts. Im asking a question about ootp2006 and it doesnt fit in any other threads. How is it so small if its supposed to be the deepest game of those three?

klkitchens · 06-07-2006, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by JimG

Because I mention PureSim? And Mogul? This isnt any more OT than half the other posts. Im asking a question about ootp2006 and it doesnt fit in any other threads. How is it so small if its supposed to be the deepest game of those three?

There is nothing Shaun or Clay are doing to make their games "deeper" by using 100-200 MB of storage. It doesn't work that way and I'm quite shocked their games are that large.

Some of the best games EVER were in the pre-1990 computer years, when everything fit in less than 32K -- that's right K. At best it might span a few floppy disks of 360KB each. It was about gameplay, not increased disk requirements.

pat · 06-07-2006, 11:58 PM

I don't know why you're comparing the depth of the game in the installation size.

Plus, wouldn't it be best to have that 33 MB size for everyone since it's convenient.

Beach23BoyP · 06-08-2006, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by GamingVoice

There is nothing Shaun or Clay are doing to make their games "deeper" by using 100-200 MB of storage. It doesn't work that way and I'm quite shocked their games are that large.

Some of the best games EVER were in the pre-1990 computer years, when everything fit in less than 32K -- that's right K. At best it might span a few floppy disks of 360KB each. It was about gameplay, not increased disk requirements.

Sorry you're so shocked. PureSim includes almost 60 megs of sound.

Steve Kuffrey · 06-08-2006, 12:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Beach23BoyP

Sorry you're so shocked. PureSim includes almost 60 megs of sound.

Yikes......wonder if it is ok to delete that stuff?

klkitchens · 06-08-2006, 12:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Beach23BoyP

Sorry you're so shocked. PureSim includes almost 60 megs of sound.

What then is the other 140MB?

Shaun Sullivan · 06-08-2006, 12:17 AM

The install includes DirectX 9.0 (for the in-game ball flight animations and ambient sound), which takes up a huge chunk. I didn't want to chance someone installing the game and not having DirectX.

Also, the download is not 200mb its 160, and the actual post-install footprint is nowhere near that.

Shaun Sullivan · 06-08-2006, 12:18 AM

And the demo is 96mb since we trimmed out some of the more gratuitous intro stuff.

Axxon · 06-08-2006, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by GamingVoice

There is nothing Shaun or Clay are doing to make their games "deeper" by using 100-200 MB of storage. It doesn't work that way and I'm quite shocked their games are that large.

Some of the best games EVER were in the pre-1990 computer years, when everything fit in less than 32K -- that's right K. At best it might span a few floppy disks of 360KB each. It was about gameplay, not increased disk requirements.

So, are you saying size doesn't matter?

klkitchens · 06-08-2006, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Axxon

So, are you saying size doesn't matter?

That's what I keep telling my wife.

klkitchens · 06-08-2006, 12:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun Sullivan

The install includes DirectX 9.0 (for the in-game ball flight animations and ambient sound), which takes up a huge chunk. I didn't want to chance someone installing the game and not having DirectX.

Also, the download is not 200mb its 160, and the actual post-install footprint is nowhere near that.

FYI, I wasn't bashing you -- just arguing that the size of the download does not necessarily indicate better things.

PureSim is also a great game, though I've not seen the recent version.

No hard feelings, eh.

Stats_Enthusiast · 06-08-2006, 02:29 AM

IMHO and in this particular case, less is more...
OOTP 2006 is your best bet... guaranteed!

I used to play Baseball Mogul; love the name, hate the game.

Never played PureSim, so I can't comment there... but 60MB of sound... FOR A TEXT GAME!?!?!? Hmmmm... pardon the pun, but is sounds like they're trying to compensate for a lack of something...?!

fantom1979 · 06-08-2006, 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Shaun Sullivan

The install includes DirectX 9.0 (for the in-game ball flight animations and ambient sound), which takes up a huge chunk. I didn't want to chance someone installing the game and not having DirectX.

Also, the download is not 200mb its 160, and the actual post-install footprint is nowhere near that.

Shaun, good to see that you finally wised up and switched over to OOTP

Marc Duffy · 06-08-2006, 02:43 AM

JimG : I'm glad you've bought another game? Are you going to get sa refund on that as well?

06-07-2006, 11:48 PM	#1
JimG Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 241	Just bought PureSim Installing now and wondering why PureSim is over 200 MB, Mogul is 100 MB, and OOTP is only 33 MB. I would have assumed the exact opposite. With all the screens and graphics OOTP has youd think it would be the biggest. Jim

06-07-2006, 11:58 PM	#5
pat Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Quezon City, Philippines Posts: 2,748	I don't know why you're comparing the depth of the game in the installation size. Plus, wouldn't it be best to have that 33 MB size for everyone since it's convenient. __________________ Co-Founder & Technical Director at ExaWeb Corporation, an SEO company in the Philippines. Previous Leagues - Time Warp Baseball / International Federation of Baseball / Professional Baseball Replay League / No Pepper Baseball League / MLB Pro Current OOTP 24 Leagues - Sim Sports Gaming - (2016-Present) Washington Nationals (2016-2022) *2017 Champions Oakland Athletics (2023-Present)

06-08-2006, 02:29 AM	#14
Stats_Enthusiast Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 295	IMHO and in this particular case, less is more... OOTP 2006 is your best bet... guaranteed! I used to play Baseball Mogul; love the name, hate the game. Never played PureSim, so I can't comment there... but 60MB of sound... FOR A TEXT GAME!?!?!? Hmmmm... pardon the pun, but is sounds like they're trying to compensate for a lack of something...?! __________________ "Keep on rockin in the free world" - Neil Young ____________________ MLB - A's NFL - Bears

06-07-2006, 11:50 PM	#2
Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Union City, TN Posts: 6,383	Shouldn't this be in OT or somewhere other than here?

06-07-2006, 11:52 PM	#3
JimG Banned Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 241	Because I mention PureSim? And Mogul? This isnt any more OT than half the other posts. Im asking a question about ootp2006 and it doesnt fit in any other threads. How is it so small if its supposed to be the deepest game of those three?

06-08-2006, 12:17 AM	#9
Shaun Sullivan Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 48	The install includes DirectX 9.0 (for the in-game ball flight animations and ambient sound), which takes up a huge chunk. I didn't want to chance someone installing the game and not having DirectX. Also, the download is not 200mb its 160, and the actual post-install footprint is nowhere near that.

06-08-2006, 12:18 AM	#10
Shaun Sullivan Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 48	And the demo is 96mb since we trimmed out some of the more gratuitous intro stuff.

06-08-2006, 02:43 AM	#16
Marc Duffy SI Marketing Wizard Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Old Street, London Posts: 4,741	JimG : I'm glad you've bought another game? Are you going to get sa refund on that as well?