Salaries

Mattymo · 04-22-2006, 06:34 PM

Just curious...what are the minimum salaries going to be? In previous versions, anything below $300,000 was a "minor league contract". However, I want to create an Independent League, and depending on how competitive it is, I'd like the salaries to be very scaled down, to perhaps like $40,000/year.

bababui · 04-22-2006, 07:16 PM

In 6 and 6.5 you could create your own minimum salary. Im sure this will carry over into the new game.

Caporegime · 04-22-2006, 11:48 PM

Does anyone know if maximum individual salaries can be capped as well? It would be nice to have a little added flexibility in this regard. In previous versions that I've played, setting team salary caps doesn't always cut it from a logical standpoint. You always end up with teams that blow their whole wad on three or four star players & end up with little or no wiggle room.

It would be nice, therefore, to be able cap individual player salaries along with collective team totals.

Left-handed Badger · 04-23-2006, 12:01 AM

What is the real life minimum wage for baseball anyway?

Caporegime · 04-23-2006, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Left-handed Badger

What is the real life minimum wage for baseball anyway?

I'm pretty sure it went up to $316,000 in '05.

Edit: I double-checked. The minimum salary is $316,000.

bababui · 04-23-2006, 12:22 AM

In OOTP 6 the David Wells character became a free agent after the 1st season and I needed pitching depth but he wouldnt sign with me. I looked after free agency and he signed a 1 year 24 million dollar contract.

That oughta keep him in doughnuts for a while.

I second the motion for an optional individual player salary cap

Cras · 04-23-2006, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

In OOTP 6 the David Wells character became a free agent after the 1st season and I needed pitching depth but he wouldnt sign with me. I looked after free agency and he signed a 1 year 24 million dollar contract.

That oughta keep him in doughnuts for a while.

I second the motion for an optional individual player salary cap

This did seem to happen way too often in v6.

Especially when the human teams bid on the guy, a computer team will just drive the price sky high. And not just lucrative, I mean stupid money. 24 million for a pitcher is just stupid money.

Ruthian23 · 04-23-2006, 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Cras

This did seem to happen way too often in v6.

Especially when the human teams bid on the guy, a computer team will just drive the price sky high. And not just lucrative, I mean stupid money. 24 million for a pitcher is just stupid money.

Especially a 42 year old pitcher who hasn't been tremendously effective in the past few years. I did notice that, too. Sometimes I'd have to go really, really high in the bidding just to see how high the computer would go. When I stopped, though, if the computer team had the highest bid, it would ruin them financially sometimes, because they'd have like 30 million invested in a player that wasn't that good for several years.

Sim Rat · 04-26-2006, 02:05 PM

Will we be able to cap the maximum allowable salary for an individual player, and make that figure as low as we want?

spark240 · 04-29-2006, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Caporegime

...The minimum salary is $316,000.

Obviously, this is for MLB players only. Most real-life professional players, in the U.S. and around the world, make less. And only in relatively recent years have MLB players made this kind of money.

So, for an accurate rendition of either modern or historical ball, we need to be able to set player (and coaching/scouting/etc.) salary scales (and ticket prices/etc.) vastly lower than in any prior version of the game. Presumably both minimums, maximums (if any), and coefficients of the typical spread will be customizable league-by-league within each game world.

In my own planned fictional world (which will be "realistic," but with world and baseball history having followed a somewhat different course), $300K will be closer to a major-league star salary than it will be to the minimum, and nobody will make multi-millions. I expect to be able to customize revenue streams in such a way that ticket sales are the substantial majority of any team's income. (Ideally, I'd also like to see travel between games incorporated as a team expenditure, so the geography of far-flung versus regionalized leagues, and the schedule of each team therein, becomes financially relevant. Different countries and eras might have different per-distance costs [and travel times!] based on the implicit availability of various forms of transport. This can wait for the next version.)

Malleus Dei · 04-29-2006, 10:13 AM

A maximum salary is a really good idea and should be in the game.

Cras · 04-29-2006, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Sim Rat

Will we be able to cap the maximum allowable salary for an individual player, and make that figure as low as we want?

That's how the NBA does it, is it not?

Le Grande Orange · 04-29-2006, 07:08 PM

You can get a hint of the salary customization in the game from this blog of Markus' from December.

I'll quote the relevant paragraph below:

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But now you can not only customize the rules, but also the basics of the financial engine. You may set average salary figures (split up by player quality) and average attendance numbers. That, along with the global financial co-efficient, allows you to shape the financial system of your virtual baseball universe. You can have a beer league for example, where the best players earn $2,000 per season while only 50 people watch the games. Or shape a league of superstars where the average player earns $10,000,000 per year and the stadiums are packed with 100,000 people per game. It’s in your hands.

Malleus Dei · 04-29-2006, 07:09 PM

So you're more or less telling us that there is a maximum salary that we can set, eh?

Cras · 04-29-2006, 07:13 PM

MD has gone all Canadian on us.

Le Grande Orange · 04-29-2006, 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

So you're more or less telling us that there is a maximum salary that we can set, eh?

I could say more and offer up details of various financial aspects, but if I did, agents of the SI Secret Police would blow up my computer before I could finish the post. And I don't have the money to replace this old beast I'm using, I'm afraid.

So you'll have to glean your information through official channels...

Malleus Dei · 04-29-2006, 07:28 PM

Hey, I'm trying to put the one I'm talking to at ease.

Malleus Dei · 04-29-2006, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

I could say more and offer up details of various financial aspects, but if I did, agents of the SI Secret Police would blow up my computer before I could finish the post. And I don't have the money to replace this old beast I'm using, I'm afraid.

So you'll have to glean your information through official channels...

The SI Secret Police? You're afraid of two pot-bellied middle-aged Englishmen and a flatulent dog?

Le Grande Orange · 04-29-2006, 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

The SI Secret Police? You're afraid of two pot-bellied middle-aged Englishmen and a flatulent dog?

I want to play, I really do, but dang it, my brain is drawing blanks on funny responses! Ah the ignominy of it...

Malleus Dei · 04-29-2006, 07:59 PM

Too many Molson's, eh?

04-22-2006, 06:34 PM	#1
Mattymo All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: Colchester, CT Posts: 1,448	Salaries Just curious...what are the minimum salaries going to be? In previous versions, anything below $300,000 was a "minor league contract". However, I want to create an Independent League, and depending on how competitive it is, I'd like the salaries to be very scaled down, to perhaps like $40,000/year.

04-22-2006, 11:48 PM	#3
Caporegime All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: The Borough of Kings Posts: 1,713	Does anyone know if maximum individual salaries can be capped as well? It would be nice to have a little added flexibility in this regard. In previous versions that I've played, setting team salary caps doesn't always cut it from a logical standpoint. You always end up with teams that blow their whole wad on three or four star players & end up with little or no wiggle room. It would be nice, therefore, to be able cap individual player salaries along with collective team totals. __________________ "If you don't know where you are going, you'll wind up someplace else." - Lawrence Peter Berra

04-23-2006, 12:01 AM	#4
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04-22-2006, 07:16 PM	#2
bababui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,147 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	In 6 and 6.5 you could create your own minimum salary. Im sure this will carry over into the new game.

04-23-2006, 12:22 AM	#6
bababui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,147 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	In OOTP 6 the David Wells character became a free agent after the 1st season and I needed pitching depth but he wouldnt sign with me. I looked after free agency and he signed a 1 year 24 million dollar contract. That oughta keep him in doughnuts for a while. I second the motion for an optional individual player salary cap

04-26-2006, 02:05 PM	#9
Sim Rat Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 73	Will we be able to cap the maximum allowable salary for an individual player, and make that figure as low as we want?