2006 White Sox Official Season Thread - Page 3

MogulChamp · 04-07-2006, 10:25 AM

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Well, if Ozzie hadn't insisted on putting supern00b Boone Logan in to face Hafner (why not Thornton or Cotts in that situation?!) it may well have been a 3-2 Sox win.

I remember we criticized some of Ozzie's bullpen moves last season as well. By the halfway point of the season, he figured out how he wanted to use everyone. He wanted to give Logan a chance, and he failed.

I would expect Ozzie to give him 1 more chance in a close game, and if that doesnt work then Logan will be doing some mopup work or a long reliever.

Ozzie's a great manger and what he is doing now in this very young season is trying to build confidence and giving the new guys a chance to excel.

He knows what he's doing.

Go Tribe · 04-07-2006, 11:04 AM

Actually I think Ozzie blew it when he had Iguchi bunt Podsednik over in the 7th or 8th, effectively taking the bat out of the hands of your hottest hitter. We walked Thome, Konerko hit into inning ending double play and the rest is history.

Just also want to thank Pierzinsky (sp?) for popping out to end the ninth with the bases loaded - clutch.

Cras · 04-07-2006, 11:06 AM

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Dont be talking about the Ozz Man. He got us to the promise land last season.

He does change the lineup too much I think. No reason for Joe Crede to be sitting or Iguchi to be sitting so that Utility Crap Playres like Machowiak and Cintron can play and strike out in the clutch.

Cras · 04-07-2006, 11:07 AM

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Just also want to thank Pierzinsky (sp?) for popping out to end the ninth with the bases loaded - clutch.

Yhea that was not a good pitch to hit. He should have worked the count a bit more and get something outside and mid to pull over the 1st bagger's head and get the run in that way.

eriqjaffe · 04-07-2006, 11:50 AM

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Dont be talking about the Ozz Man. He got us to the promise land last season.

Doesn't mean he makes no mistakes.

MattH3322 · 04-07-2006, 11:54 AM

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He does change the lineup too much I think. No reason for Joe Crede to be sitting or Iguchi to be sitting so that Utility Crap Playres like Machowiak and Cintron can play and strike out in the clutch.

He has always done that. Always does that in the last game of a series to give the regular players a rest. I think it works out pretty well that way.

MattH3322 · 04-07-2006, 11:54 AM

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Doesn't mean he makes no mistakes.

**** you, he is perfect.

Cras · 04-07-2006, 12:44 PM

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He has always done that. Always does that in the last game of a series to give the regular players a rest. I think it works out pretty well that way.

I think Pods and Iguchi should play as much as they can together in April since they had so little time to play 1 and 2 in the spring. I also would like to see Brian Anderson stay in the line up after he had a hot bat in the opener. Let the rookie stay hot and not cool off on the bench is what I say.

Urth · 04-07-2006, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by eriqjaffe

Well, if Ozzie hadn't insisted on putting supern00b Boone Logan in to face Hafner (why not Thornton or Cotts in that situation?!) it may well have been a 3-2 Sox win.

Eh, I thought that Ozzie explained it by saying that Boone was already warm and ready to go. With no one on, I don't see how this was necessarily a bad call, except for Hafner being the Tribe's best hitter.

On a related note, I wonder about the wisdom of carrying 3 left handed relievers. Are these guys the best relievers available in the system, or were we loading up to face some lefty-heavy lineups ( like the Tribe )?

MogulChamp · 04-07-2006, 02:30 PM

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Eh, I thought that Ozzie explained it by saying that Boone was already warm and ready to go. With no one on, I don't see how this was necessarily a bad call, except for Hafner being the Tribe's best hitter.

On a related note, I wonder about the wisdom of carrying 3 left handed relievers. Are these guys the best relievers available in the system, or were we loading up to face some lefty-heavy lineups ( like the Tribe )?

Well we only carried 2 lefty relievers last year. Marte and Cotts. We also lost Viscaino this year. We replaced both with lefties. It didnt hurt us last year relying on just Cotts, so if we need to we can fall back on him.

It also doesnt hurt to have that many lefties for teams like Cleveland, NY, and Oakland.

eriqjaffe · 04-07-2006, 02:42 PM

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Eh, I thought that Ozzie explained it by saying that Boone was already warm and ready to go. With no one on, I don't see how this was necessarily a bad call, except for Hafner being the Tribe's best hitter.

Personally, I would have had Cotts or Thornton warming up in that instance - I understand Ozzie going for the lefty-lefty matchup, but Ozzie had two other lefties, both of whom are known quantities - Cotts moreso than Thornton.

MattH3322 · 04-07-2006, 02:48 PM

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Personally, I would have had Cotts or Thornton warming up in that instance - I understand Ozzie going for the lefty-lefty matchup, but Ozzie had two other lefties, both of whom are known quantities - Cotts moreso than Thornton.

What is your prediction on what Ozzie will do wrong tonight?

eriqjaffe · 04-07-2006, 03:20 PM

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What is your prediction on what Ozzie will do wrong tonight?

I predict he will play Bobby Jenks at shortstop.

MattH3322 · 04-07-2006, 03:22 PM

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I predict he will play Bobby Jenks at shortstop.

I can picture the announcer now. Jenks rolls to the ball.

eriqjaffe · 04-07-2006, 03:25 PM

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I can picture the announcer now. Jenks rolls to the ball.

Could it be any worse than last year in Oakland when Ozzie started Crede at short, and then replaced him with Dye when Crede got ejected?

Then again, there were injury-related reasons Ozzie did that...

Urth · 04-07-2006, 03:39 PM

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What is your prediction on what Ozzie will do wrong tonight?

...maybe starting Konerko at 3rd, to let Thome have a go at 1st? That would free up Crede to play short, and since Oz skipped over Cotts the other night in favor of Boone, he could give old Neil a try in the rotation, in order to keep the workload low on everyone else. Ozuna should be worked in, too, just for balance. Maybe left so Pods can roam CF for us?

eriqjaffe · 04-07-2006, 03:42 PM

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...maybe starting Konerko at 3rd, to let Thome have a go at 1st? That would free up Crede to play short, and since Oz skipped over Cotts the other night in favor of Boone, he could give old Neil a try in the rotation, in order to keep the workload low on everyone else. Ozuna should be worked in, too, just for balance. Maybe left so Pods can roam CF for us?

Paulie did play 3B in the Dodgers system when he was coming up.

Urth · 04-07-2006, 03:50 PM

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Paulie did play 3B in the Dodgers system when he was coming up.

He sure did. That's why it's just edgy enough for Ozzie to try, don't you think?

eriqjaffe · 04-07-2006, 04:07 PM

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He sure did. That's why it's just edgy enough for Ozzie to try, don't you think?

I certainly wouldn't be stunned to see it.

Jestor · 04-13-2006, 06:15 AM

Nice to see the two straight wins over Detroit to cool off the Tigers a bit and get back to .500.

FWIW, though I myself did the whole "Huh?" thing about Logan, I can see the rationale behind it.

04-07-2006, 11:04 AM	#42
Go Tribe All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,534 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	Actually I think Ozzie blew it when he had Iguchi bunt Podsednik over in the 7th or 8th, effectively taking the bat out of the hands of your hottest hitter. We walked Thome, Konerko hit into inning ending double play and the rest is history. Just also want to thank Pierzinsky (sp?) for popping out to end the ninth with the bases loaded - clutch.

04-13-2006, 06:15 AM	#60
Jestor Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 2,496	Nice to see the two straight wins over Detroit to cool off the Tigers a bit and get back to .500. FWIW, though I myself did the whole "Huh?" thing about Logan, I can see the rationale behind it.