Getting Fired In On-Line League??

andymac · 03-31-2006, 04:01 PM

I know it is possible to get fired while playing in solo mode. I was wondering if it would be a possibility to get fired as a GM in an on-line league (and/or apply for other open jobs). I think this could bring a fun aspect to the on-line leagues with the possibility of players changing which teams they are affiliated with similarly to what happens in the real MLB.

RchW · 03-31-2006, 04:21 PM

In any league I've been in you piss off the commish enough, you can get fired real quick.

Just kidding. I know what you mean.

Ktulu · 03-31-2006, 05:09 PM

That's a pretty cool idea. Rather than the current system of being an owner/gm, everyone would just be a GM competing against other GM's for the best jobs. If executed properly I think this would be a great feature.

andymac · 03-31-2006, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Ktulu

That's a pretty cool idea. Rather than the current system of being an owner/gm, everyone would just be a GM competing against other GM's for the best jobs. If executed properly I think this would be a great feature.

Exactly.

battists · 03-31-2006, 05:11 PM

This would actually be very cool, since potentially you could have "extra" owners waiting for jobs.

Even cooler, you could have some people GMing at the major league level, while others manage minor leagues, waiting for a crack at the bigs. How cool would that be?

andymac · 03-31-2006, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

Even cooler, you could have some people GMing at the major league level, while others manage minor leagues, waiting for a crack at the bigs. How cool would that be?

Yea, that was what I was thinking. A league with a fairly small "major league", but with at least one or more lower equivalent leagues and GM's would aspire to get to and stay in that major league.

Ktulu · 03-31-2006, 05:26 PM

It might also help to reduce the strategy of complete rebuilds and losing to acquire top draft picks. One of the things I don't like about online leagues is that if your not a contender it's usually better to be a bottom feeder than it is to try and be competitive. There isn't much incentive to be a .500-.540 team because while your doing that there are teams below you raking in the top prospects who will soon be beating your ass. But if being .500 saves your job, or your owner's orders are to be sure to make a profit while winning x number of games... things would be different. Don't meet your owner's expectations and you might find yourself managing a minor league team

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The idea of working your way up through the minors is just icing on the cake.

kingcharlesxii · 03-31-2006, 05:35 PM

A league like this would be tons of fun.

rem · 03-31-2006, 05:53 PM

There's a league, MLB Century, which did this.

andymac · 03-31-2006, 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by remangiii

There's a league, MLB Century, which did this.

I would assume they had to manually figure out who would get fired and then who would get the vacant job. Do you have any information on how they did this?

ukhotstove · 03-31-2006, 06:13 PM

If I'm not mistaken wasnt there a league not long back that tried to do this but not sure if it took off, they were on about sending GM's contracts and you had to meet certain targets within your contract or you got fired.

sfgiants88 · 03-31-2006, 06:15 PM

Cool idea!

The only problem I see is that I assume all firings come at the discretion of the computer. Some owners may be upset that a computer fired them unnecessarily.

I know the AI makes some pretty bonehead moves in much more simple things. It will be difficult for the AI to recognize that a team is rebuilding, for example.

Still, owners in real life make some pretty bonehead hirings too, so maybe there isn't much of a problem here.

ukhotstove · 03-31-2006, 06:18 PM

P.S.
One problem with it though is you could find yourself firing say 4 GM's and there not being any online players take up the open teams, one way of getting round it and OOTP 2006 is perfect for it is to say fire a GM from the majors team and demote him to another league examples being to the minors or to a Japanese League. Not jumping on the bandwagon as I've talked it over with OOTP players before but was thinking of implementing this in a league I'm coming up with thats were I come up with the demoting rather than firing from the league idea.

andymac · 03-31-2006, 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by sfgiants88

Still, owners in real life make some pretty bonehead hirings too, so maybe there isn't much of a problem here.

That's the point...some owners would be more or less "understanding" and each owner would have different expectations. This is already implemented in the "solo" game, I just would like it to be implemented into the on-line game (with the option to be turned off, of course).

Ryan S · 03-31-2006, 06:21 PM

Am I the only person here who hates this idea?

O-CAB-4MVP · 03-31-2006, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by andymac

I would assume they had to manually figure out who would get fired and then who would get the vacant job. Do you have any information on how they did this?

I believe legendsport ran the league.

ukhotstove · 03-31-2006, 06:23 PM

sfgiants it would be up to the commish say he'd give a contract to the Yankees GM were he had to have 2 seasons above .500 ball he had to make the play offs in both seasons etc, obvious it would be different for say the Royals GM his goals could be minor leagues had to play .500 ball so many prospects had to break into the top 100 things like that <<<< very rough top of the head ideas lol.

andymac · 03-31-2006, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

P.S.
One problem with it though is you could find yourself firing say 4 GM's and there not being any online players take up the open teams, one way of getting round it and OOTP 2006 is perfect for it is to say fire a GM from the majors team and demote him to another league examples being to the minors or to a Japanese League. Not jumping on the bandwagon as I've talked it over with OOTP players before but was thinking of implementing this in a league I'm coming up with thats were I come up with the demoting rather than firing from the league idea.

Well, yea, in this situation there are likely going to be teams being run by the computer somewhere because it is unlikely an on-line league of this nature is going to be able to keep the exact same number of GM's around all the time, but I think that could be worked out.

andymac · 03-31-2006, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan S

Am I the only person here who hates this idea?

Why? It would be an option, just like it is currently an option as to whether you can be fired within a solo league.

andymac · 03-31-2006, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

sfgiants it would be up to the commish say he'd give a contract to the Yankees GM were he had to have 2 seasons above .500 ball he had to make the play offs in both seasons etc, obvious it would be different for say the Royals GM his goals could be minor leagues had to play .500 ball so many prospects had to break into the top 100 things like that <<<< very rough top of the head ideas lol.

I don't want it to be up to the commish. I want the AI owners to be the ones that hire/fire GM's, just like a solo league. Human owners could "apply" for open jobs within the game and who gets the job would be left up to the AI.

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Ktulu Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: BC Posts: 4,710	That's a pretty cool idea. Rather than the current system of being an owner/gm, everyone would just be a GM competing against other GM's for the best jobs. If executed properly I think this would be a great feature. __________________ "The ice is getting even more thinner, my friend!"

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Ktulu Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: BC Posts: 4,710	It might also help to reduce the strategy of complete rebuilds and losing to acquire top draft picks. One of the things I don't like about online leagues is that if your not a contender it's usually better to be a bottom feeder than it is to try and be competitive. There isn't much incentive to be a .500-.540 team because while your doing that there are teams below you raking in the top prospects who will soon be beating your ass. But if being .500 saves your job, or your owner's orders are to be sure to make a profit while winning x number of games... things would be different. Don't meet your owner's expectations and you might find yourself managing a minor league team . The idea of working your way up through the minors is just icing on the cake. __________________ "The ice is getting even more thinner, my friend!"

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battists Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 18,506	This would actually be very cool, since potentially you could have "extra" owners waiting for jobs. Even cooler, you could have some people GMing at the major league level, while others manage minor leagues, waiting for a crack at the bigs. How cool would that be?

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sfgiants88 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 885	Cool idea! The only problem I see is that I assume all firings come at the discretion of the computer. Some owners may be upset that a computer fired them unnecessarily. I know the AI makes some pretty bonehead moves in much more simple things. It will be difficult for the AI to recognize that a team is rebuilding, for example. Still, owners in real life make some pretty bonehead hirings too, so maybe there isn't much of a problem here.

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ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 7,175	P.S. One problem with it though is you could find yourself firing say 4 GM's and there not being any online players take up the open teams, one way of getting round it and OOTP 2006 is perfect for it is to say fire a GM from the majors team and demote him to another league examples being to the minors or to a Japanese League. Not jumping on the bandwagon as I've talked it over with OOTP players before but was thinking of implementing this in a league I'm coming up with thats were I come up with the demoting rather than firing from the league idea. __________________ Detroit Diesel Dynasty San Antonio Calzones of Laredo Dynasty

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ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 7,175	sfgiants it would be up to the commish say he'd give a contract to the Yankees GM were he had to have 2 seasons above .500 ball he had to make the play offs in both seasons etc, obvious it would be different for say the Royals GM his goals could be minor leagues had to play .500 ball so many prospects had to break into the top 100 things like that <<<< very rough top of the head ideas lol. __________________ Detroit Diesel Dynasty San Antonio Calzones of Laredo Dynasty