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Old 03-23-2006, 11:14 AM   #1
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Go West, Young Man: A CIE Player Creation Thread

Ok class, you start a dynasty set in the 1940’s and before the Dodgers and Giants move west, what is the one cliché you must include? That’s right, the PCL declaring itself Major League! While this has not happened yet in the storyline, I figured we all knew it was to be.

The basic rules of creation are taken from metsgeek’s PLAUGE dynasty, and used with his permission. Full rundown of creation rules will be posted later today. The period for creation is from when the rules are posted to Midnight (CST) March 29, 2006. There is at this time no plans to have another player creation window. Readers can create as many players as they want, but each subsequent player created in a class will not have as many points to spend for creation. (so if you create 3 players, one from each class, there is no penalty to any of them. But if you create 3 'established' players, then the second and third will be penalized)

Readers will have 3 classes of players to create: Established, expansion and Negro Leaguer. Each will have pluses and minuses.

Established players will be assigned to one of the following: San Diego, Sacramento, Oakland, Hollywood, Seattle or Portland. Established players have the most points for creation, but must be at least 32 years old at the start of play. Talent equals ratings.

Expansion players will be assigned to one of the following: Phoenix, yet to be named PCL club, Minneapolis, Columbus and Buffalo. Least amount of points for creation, but can not be older than 28. Talent is greater than intital ratings.

Negro Leaguer can be signed by any club that is integrated. In the middle in terms of point for creation, no age restrictions. Talent is greater than intitial ratings, if player is 28 or younger. Only a 10% chance player will be signed by a club.

Details later.
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Old 03-23-2006, 11:31 AM   #2
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Ok, later is sooner than I thought

Again, thanks to Metsgeek for his work on this

Note - You will be required to do some MATH

Each player starts with a set amount of "dollars", with which to buy various attributes, according to the following charts
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Established Batters - $450   Established Pitchers - $350
Expansion Batters   - $400   Expansion Pitchers   - $300
Negro League Batters- $425   Negro League Pitchers- $325
 
Talents (1-90): Cost $1 per point
Batters: Contact/Gap/Power/Eye/Avoid K   
- No Talent may be above 90
- No Talent may be below 20
- If a Talent is below 30, the next highest must be at least 20 points higher 
- Total Points Allocated to Talents may not exceed 350
  nor be less than 250
 
Pitchers: Stuff/Control/Movement
- No Talent may be above 90
- No Talent may be below 40
- Total Points Allocated to Talents may not exceed 225
  nor be less than 150
 
Pitcher Endurance (1-20): Cost $2 per point
Hold Baserunners (1-5): Cost $2 per point
Groundball %: Generated by AI
Velocity: Generated by AI
 
Speed/Stealing/Instincts (1-20): Cost $2 per point
- Total Points Allocated may not exceed 45 ($100)
  nor be less than 15 ($10).  Only one of the three may exceed 15.
 
Sac Bunt/Bunt for Hit (1-5): Cost $1 per point
Hitter Type (Spray/Normal/Pull): Your Choice
 
Injury Rating
Prone - $0  Normal - $25  Durable - $40
 
Defense (1-20): $2 per point
- Max Points per position = 16
- Allowed up to 4 different positions (unless a pitcher)
- Fielding % is the average of position in 1946
 
Arm (1-20): Cost $1 per point
- No limit. IF/OF/C are distinct
 
Character:
Loyalty - Your Choice
Need Winning Team - Your Choice
Leader Ability - None $0/Some $1/Great $3
Clutch Performance - Suffers $0/Normal $2/Great $5
Consistency - Very Inconsistent $0/Average $2/Good $5
Expansion and Negro Leaguer Ratings - Your starting ratings will be a percentage of your Talents. Your age will determine the initial rating percentage as listed in the chart below.
Code:
AGE   MAX %
17    30
18    36
19    42
20    48
21    54    
22    60
23    66
24    72
25    78
26    84
27    90
28    96
Example - Your talents: 80/60/50/70/50. You decide to start your player at 23. Your % at 23 is 66% which would result in starting ratings of 53/40/33/46/33 (66% of the above talents rounded up).
A few other things of note:

Each subsequent player created in a class is penalized $25. Example: Your first 'established player gets the full $450, the second $425, the third $400, etc

The players do not have to be ancestors. You may give them fictional names of your own.

No stupid names, please...such as Dick Hurtz, Joey Bag-O-Donuts, etc....

This is my first one of these, I hope it works out.
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Old 03-23-2006, 01:24 PM   #3
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I'll use my grandfather's name and make him an expansion 18 year-old batter, even though he was born in 1914.

Wally Klukas
Contact: 90
Gap: 41
Power: 70
Eye: 20
Avoid K: 40

Speed: 7
Stealing: 11
Instinct: 5

Sac Bunt: 1 ($1)
Bunt for Hit: 1 ($1)
Hitter Type: Normal

Injury Rating: Durable ($40)

Defense: 16 (SS) ($32)
Arm: 10 (IF) ($10)

Character:
Loyalty: Very Loyal
Needs Winning Team: Doesn't Care
Leader Ability: Great ($3)
Clutch: Normal ($2)
Consistency: Very Good ($5)
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Old 03-23-2006, 01:29 PM   #4
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Old 03-23-2006, 02:07 PM   #5
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Old 03-26-2006, 10:40 AM   #6
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Bump--will be out of town for a few days

Since there isn't a whole lotta responses, if you want to pick which city you would like to have your creation play in--I will allow that. If you have already created a player, go back and add that info.

Expansion players can choose from:

Phoenix, Minneapolis, Columbus, Buffalo and an as yet unnamed PCL city

Established players can choose from:

San Diego, Hollywood, Sacramento, Oakland, Portland, or Seattle
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Old 03-26-2006, 03:23 PM   #7
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I had my brother and his family up this weekend, so I wasn't on much. I'll definitely create some tonight.
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Old 03-26-2006, 11:54 PM   #8
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NAME: Harley Gathers
NICKNAME: Hog
NUMBER: 11
THROWS/HITS: R/S
1st POSITION/DEFENSE: 3b - 7 $14
2nd POSITION/DEFENSE: NONE
3rd POSITION/DEFENSE: NONE
4th POSITION/DEFENSE: NONE
ARM (IF/OF/C): 8/0/0 $8
CONTACT: 75 $75
GAP POWER: 83 $83
HR POWER: 78 $78
EYE: 50 $50
AVOID K'S: 50 $50
SPEED: 8 $16
STEALING: 5 $10
RUNNING: 6 $12
HITTER TYPE: NORMAL
SAC BUNT: 2 $2
BUNT FOR HIT: 1 $1
INJURY: NORMAL - $25
CHARACTER:
LOYALTY: VERY
NEEDS WINNING TEAM: NO
LEADER: SOME $1
CLUTCH: GREAT $5
CONSISTENCY: AVERAGE $3
BIRTHDATE: 3/1/1925
DEBUT YEAR: 1946?
RATINGS %: 50 $15


TOTAL = $450 - Established Hollywood
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Old 03-26-2006, 11:59 PM   #9
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NAME: Anton Gogolak
NICKNAME:
NUMBER: 8
THROWS/HITS: L/L
1st POSITION/DEFENSE: 2b - 14 $28
2nd POSITION/DEFENSE: NONE
3rd POSITION/DEFENSE: NONE
4th POSITION/DEFENSE: NONE
ARM (IF/OF/C): 11/0/0 $11
CONTACT: 90 $90
GAP POWER: 90 $90
HR POWER: 34 $34
EYE: 58 $58
AVOID K'S: 50 $50
SPEED: 5 $10
STEALING: 5 $10
RUNNING: 6 $12
HITTER TYPE: SPRAY
SAC BUNT: 2 $2
BUNT FOR HIT: 1 $1
INJURY: NORMAL - $25
CHARACTER:
LOYALTY: VERY
NEEDS WINNING TEAM: NO
LEADER: SOME $1
CLUTCH: GREAT $5
CONSISTENCY: AVERAGE $3
BIRTHDATE: 2/2/1924
DEBUT YEAR: 1946?
RATINGS %: 60 $20


TOTAL = $450 - Established Sacramento
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Old 03-29-2006, 11:18 AM   #10
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Old 03-29-2006, 11:36 AM   #11
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NAME: Dashiell Spivey
NICKNAME: Dash
NUMBER: 3
THROWS/HITS: R/R
1st POSITION/DEFENSE: SS - 11 $22
2nd POSITION/DEFENSE: NONE
3rd POSITION/DEFENSE: NONE
4th POSITION/DEFENSE: NONE
ARM (IF/OF/C): 9/0/0 $9
CONTACT: 88 $88
GAP POWER: 44 $44
HR POWER: 22 $22
EYE: 61 $61
AVOID K'S: 54 $54
SPEED: 17 $34
STEALING: 15 $30
RUNNING: 13 $26
HITTER TYPE: SPRAY
SAC BUNT: 2 $2
BUNT FOR HIT: 1 $1
INJURY: NORMAL - $25
CHARACTER:
LOYALTY: VERY
NEEDS WINNING TEAM: YES
LEADER: SOME $1
CLUTCH: GREAT $5
CONSISTENCY: AVERAGE $3
BIRTHDATE: 1/22/1923
DEBUT YEAR: 1946?
RATINGS %: 66 $23


TOTAL = $450 - Established Unnamed PCL
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Old 03-29-2006, 11:50 AM   #12
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NAME: Josephus Bricker
NICKNAME: Big Joey
NUMBER: 3
THROWS/HITS: R/R
1st POSITION/DEFENSE: 1b - 7 $14
2nd POSITION/DEFENSE: 3b - 6 $12
3rd POSITION/DEFENSE: NONE
4th POSITION/DEFENSE: NONE
ARM (IF/OF/C): 13/0/0 $13
CONTACT: 68 $68
GAP POWER: 64 $64
HR POWER: 89 $89
EYE: 49 $49
AVOID K'S: 50 $50
SPEED: 4 $8
STEALING: 3 $6
RUNNING: 8 $16
HITTER TYPE: PULL
SAC BUNT: 2 $2
BUNT FOR HIT: 1 $1
INJURY: NORMAL - $25
CHARACTER:
LOYALTY: VERY
NEEDS WINNING TEAM: YES
LEADER: GREAT $3
CLUTCH: NORMAL $2
CONSISTENCY: AVERAGE $3
BIRTHDATE: 11/28/1925
DEBUT YEAR: 1946?
RATINGS %: 48 $14


TOTAL = $425 Negro Leaguer
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Old 03-29-2006, 11:58 AM   #13
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NAME: Achilles Brown
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NUMBER: 17
THROWS/HITS: L/L
1st POSITION/DEFENSE: P - 4 $8
2nd POSITION/DEFENSE: NONE
3rd POSITION/DEFENSE: NONE
4th POSITION/DEFENSE: NONE
ARM (IF/OF/C): 8/0/0 $8
ENDURANCE: 17 $34
HOLD RUNNERS: 3 $6
STUFF: 73 $73
CONTROL: 89 $89
MOVEMENT: 44 $44
SPEED: 5 $10
STEALING: 5 $10
RUNNING: 5 $10
HITTER TYPE: SPRAY
SAC BUNT: 2 $2
BUNT FOR HIT: 1 $1
INJURY: NORMAL - $25
CHARACTER:
LOYALTY: VERY
NEEDS WINNING TEAM: YES
LEADER: NONE $0
CLUTCH: GREAT $5
CONSISTENCY: Very Inconsistent $0
BIRTHDATE: 11/2/1826
DEBUT YEAR: 1946 - Negro Leaguer

TOTAL = $325
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Old 03-29-2006, 02:31 PM   #14
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Name: Charlie Denton
Nickname: Lazy
Number: 25
Throws/Hits: R/S
1st Position: CF (15)
Arm (OF): 5
Contact: 90
Gap: 70
Power: 30
Eye: 30
K's: 60
Speed: 20
Steal: 15
Instincts: 15
Sac Bunt: 1
Bunt for Hit: 5
Spray Hitter
Injury: Normal

Loyalty: Loyal
Winning Team? No
Leader: None
Clutch: Normal
Consistency: Good

Established player, $450, assign to Portland in 1946, age 32.
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Old 03-30-2006, 11:25 AM   #15
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The sign up period is now over, thank you for all who created a player.
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Old 04-06-2006, 10:20 PM   #16
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For those who submitted players

I'm putting together the "Spring Training" Rosters, here is where created players with no requested teams are:

Wally Klukas--Minneapolis Millers, will recieve an invite to the Major League camp. Given the youth Minneapolis has at short, there is a chance he could break camp with the starting job.

Vince Cressio--Hollywood Stars, will recieve an invite to Major League camp. The Stars are probably the best team in the PCL, will have to have a great spring to make the big league team. Even if he doesn't, should be a quick call up if the tandem of Barlkey and Bartley don't get the job done.

Rabbit Donovan--Phoenix Senators, will be at the Major League camp. Should make the club, but this could be the 27th best team in baseball, so I don't know if that is a good thing or bad thing for Rabbit.

Graham Walker--Buffalo Bison, uncertain if he will recieve an invite to Major League camp. The Bisons other big prospect is a corner OF slugger, and the age of the invited OFers leaves the door open with a good spring for Walker to make the team.

The created players with teams specified are on the requested teams. In a couple weeks (real time) we'll have a better idea where the created Negro Leaguers will end up.
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Brief outlook for created players for specific teams:

Owen Hunter, Columbus Clippers: The Clips went old, excuse me, experienced, for most of thier pitching signings. Hunter will start at minor league camp, I would say right now the Clips no. 1 pitching prospect could make a mid-season apperance, if the Columbus is out of the race.

Maximus Meridius and Harley Gathers, Hollywood Stars: the main reasons the Stars are figured to run away with the PCL. The press and the fans have put the burden of winning on thier shoulders--can these two steal enough fans from the NAL Lancers to make the PCL viable in the LA area?

Jimmy Fitzpatrick and Charlie Denton, Portland Beavers: Ever been a fan of a team that does dumb things? Like signing washed up Hal Trosky to compete with one of the top PCL firstbasemen, or going really cheap on the supporting cast. Both guys will have All-Star quality season for a .500 or worst team. On the plus side . . . I'm not sure what the plus side is.

Anton Gogolak, Sacramento Solons: Anchors a very good infield. The club most likely to challenge the Stars for the title, but only if they can find some OF help.

Rod Lockheart, San Diego Padres: Rod and fellow starter Al Brazle will be sueing the offense for non-support by mid-year. The Pads look to lose too many 2-1, 1-0 games to make the pitchers happy.

Dashiell Spivey, unnamed expansion PCL club
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Josephus Bricker, Achilles Brown and Winston Lafayette, Negro Leaguers: a little longer wait.
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I always seem to end up being the fan of the team that does dumb things, so I'm used to it.
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Old 04-07-2006, 03:58 PM   #19
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I always seem to end up being the fan of the team that does dumb things, so I'm used to it.
Hey there is still hope, they could get a good GM who can max what they have. Since I'm going to use the GM sked from 3rd&4th (with some improvements) that is really the key to them having a decent season.
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NAME: Juan Carlos
NICKNAME: The King
NUMBER: 41
THROWS/HITS: R/L
1st POSITION/DEFENSE: SS - 12$24
2nd POSITION/DEFENSE: NONE
3rd POSITION/DEFENSE: NONE
4th POSITION/DEFENSE: NONE
ARM (IF/OF/C): 9/0/0 $9
CONTACT: 77 $77
GAP POWER: 83 $83
HR POWER: 90 $90
EYE: 50 $50
AVOID K'S: 50 $50
SPEED: 5 $10
STEALING: 5 $10
RUNNING: 5 $10
HITTER TYPE: PULL

SAC BUNT: 2 $2
BUNT FOR HIT: 1 $1
INJURY: NORMAL - $25
CHARACTER:
LOYALTY: VERY
NEEDS WINNING TEAM: NO
LEADER: SOME $1
CLUTCH: GREAT $5
CONSISTENCY: AVERAGE $3
BIRTHDATE: 4/6/1918
DEBUT YEAR: 1947


TOTAL =
$450 - Established Player (Played professionally in Venezuela, signs as free agent to any team)
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