***Updated on the Corrected Lahman 4.5 Database***

Scott Vibert · 04-29-2002, 06:02 PM

Thanks to some help from blmeanie, the corrected Lahman V4.5 database has been updated and is currently in testing... if all goes well with our tests tomorrow, then the file will be submitted for upload tomorrow night and should be available soon.

This revision:

1) Adds missing stats from 1871-1876
2) Fixes stat sorting issues

In addition to all previous updates.

I'll update you on the testing progress tomorrow.

Tiger Fan · 04-29-2002, 06:45 PM

Any chance of changing fielding percentages and primary defensive position to what players normally played similiar to what Iatric did with the previous DB only without changing the players rookie stats to a career average?

Basically what I am asking for is a remade fielding.csv that will allow Jimmie Foxx to import as a first baseman and not a catcher. It will also allow Brooks Robinson to import with a far better fielding percentage than the .825 or so he posted his rookie year.

IatricSB · 04-29-2002, 06:48 PM

I've been waiting for Scott to complete all of his edits then planned on doing the same thing for my use (and Boys of Summer and Glory Days). Scott, feel free to do it yourself, otherwise let me know when done and I'll do it.

Slopicana Field · 04-29-2002, 08:42 PM

Will these corrections include fixing some of the off-the-wall stats that exist in the database, such as Pat Dobson's 1973 win-loss record being listed as a Wilbur Wood-like 24-30?

Scott Vibert · 04-30-2002, 04:14 AM

Robo Newbie,

Some of those corrections should have been completed in version one of my revised database... the errors were caused by the TOT entry for pitchers who played on more than one team during the season and also because of the messed up sorting by date in the spreadsheet.

Iatric,

I'll send you some email later tonight with the file, assuming all tests on the file go well.... I'll leave the positional work to you, its probably smarter to let you handle this since you've done it before.

Scott Vibert · 04-30-2002, 03:54 PM

Initial Tests have gone well. Pending a few other tests I'll submit it for upload.

Scott Vibert · 04-30-2002, 05:00 PM

Here is the ReadMe file for the second revised version of the 4.5 Lahman Database.

Lahman Database 4.5 - Revised Edition (4.5.2)
Last updated April 30, 2002

Questions, Comments Email Me: at vibdog@hotmail.com

First and foremost I'd like to thank Steve (blmeanie) for
running these files through a program to get the sorting
correct to prevent other statistical import oddities.

To Install Take these files and replace the existing pitching,
batting, fielding, and master .csv files in the Version 4.5
Lahman Database.

Version 4.5.1 Fixes:

1) Added Missing Biographical Data for players who debuted from
1998 - 2001, and some from earlier seasons
2) Corrected some incorrect birthdates
3) Removed Pitcher Statistical Issue. Pitchers who
appeared on more than one team, had double the stats in
the original database, this was fixed.

Version 4.5.2 Fixes:

1) Added missing stats for the 1871-1875 Seasons
2) Corrected Statistical Issues caused by improper database sorting

Enjoy.

Scott Vibert

Dargone · 04-30-2002, 05:26 PM

Where do we get the file at Scott? Thanks

Scott Vibert · 04-30-2002, 06:01 PM

When they upload it you should be able to get it from Baseball Sim Central

Dargone · 04-30-2002, 08:19 PM

Thanks

Cusefan95 · 05-01-2002, 09:15 AM

If I am in the middle of a career in which I was using 4.5.1, can I begin using 4.5.2 midway through the career without any problems? Can I just overwrite 4.5.1 with 4.5.2 on my c:\drive?

Thanks for the reply.

Scott Vibert · 05-01-2002, 09:39 AM

Yes you can.. there should be no ill effects. In fact the 4.5.2 update is just 4 files Master, Batting, Pitching, and Fielding and to install you need to overwrite the existing copies.

MiddleGA · 05-01-2002, 05:23 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ScottVib:
Yes you can.. there should be no ill effects. In fact the 4.5.2 update is just 4 files Master, Batting, Pitching, and Fielding and to install you need to overwrite the existing copies.<hr /></blockquote>Okay, I know I'm being a bit dim here but ...

Does 4.5.2 include the fixes from 4.5.1?

i.e. -- If I'm working with the Lahman original 4.5, do I need to install 4.5.1 and _then_ do 4.5.2? Or just the brand spankin' new one?

TIA,
Jon

Scott Vibert · 05-01-2002, 05:24 PM

The brand spanken new one has all of the fixes.. the four files included in the downloads are the only ones I've monkeyed with.

Hope this helps.

Tresclub · 05-01-2002, 09:53 PM

Doesn't look like they've uploaded it as yet Scott. So, I'm headed for bed. Will try again tomorrow... er, later today. lol

Scott Vibert · 05-02-2002, 05:56 AM

Warren, if you'd like to continue to host it, I can send you a copy to post.... it might allow it to get out there quicker, for those waiting...

Scott Vibert · 05-02-2002, 07:14 AM

Bad news.. Baseball Sim Central is holding off on uploading the file at the moment as they are concerned of potential legal issues if they upload it... so until I can do some digging and alay their fears the revised database will remain unavailable... I will try and get this straightened out as soon as I can.

Tresclub · 05-02-2002, 07:32 AM

mmm, if there are "legal issues" to be concerned with in this updated version, what about those same "issues" with previous versions? Or, for that matter, any and/or all roster sets using the real names of mlb players.

Scott Vibert · 05-02-2002, 07:40 AM

There aren't that I know of, so long as you aren't charging anything or making money off of the update, I just have to do some digging so I can convince them.

I did mention they have hosted other revised editions of the database in the past...

They are just practicing the principle of CYA, which I can understand and respect. Once I prove its all good, then there should be no problems.

BaseballMan · 05-02-2002, 01:09 PM

isnt sean like a counsulant for .400 software studios. Unless he has a problem with it which i dont see why he would but if he doesnt then i dont see what the problem is.

To me i would think Sean would welcome any corrections people find or any information.

I know i changed the death date to retirement dates.
To some it may be important but to me i could care less when they died but when they retired.

04-29-2002, 06:02 PM	#1
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,267	*Updated on the Corrected Lahman 4.5 Database* Thanks to some help from blmeanie, the corrected Lahman V4.5 database has been updated and is currently in testing... if all goes well with our tests tomorrow, then the file will be submitted for upload tomorrow night and should be available soon. This revision: 1) Adds missing stats from 1871-1876 2) Fixes stat sorting issues In addition to all previous updates. I'll update you on the testing progress tomorrow.

04-29-2002, 06:45 PM	#2
Tiger Fan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Ontario Canada Posts: 9,873	Any chance of changing fielding percentages and primary defensive position to what players normally played similiar to what Iatric did with the previous DB only without changing the players rookie stats to a career average? Basically what I am asking for is a remade fielding.csv that will allow Jimmie Foxx to import as a first baseman and not a catcher. It will also allow Brooks Robinson to import with a far better fielding percentage than the .825 or so he posted his rookie year. __________________ Cliff Markle HOB1 greatest pitcher 360-160, 9 Welch Awards, 11 WS titles

04-29-2002, 06:48 PM	#3
IatricSB Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 3,493	I've been waiting for Scott to complete all of his edits then planned on doing the same thing for my use (and Boys of Summer and Glory Days). Scott, feel free to do it yourself, otherwise let me know when done and I'll do it. __________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" Chicago(N) - Boys of Summer Oakland - 20th Century League Bakersfield - Wild Things Brooklyn - QBA Dodge City - NBSL California - ABC Dodger's Senioriest fan on the OOTP Boards

04-30-2002, 05:26 PM	#8
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	Where do we get the file at Scott? Thanks __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

04-30-2002, 08:19 PM	#10
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	Thanks __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

04-29-2002, 08:42 PM	#4
Slopicana Field Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 21	Will these corrections include fixing some of the off-the-wall stats that exist in the database, such as Pat Dobson's 1973 win-loss record being listed as a Wilbur Wood-like 24-30?

04-30-2002, 04:14 AM	#5
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,267	Robo Newbie, Some of those corrections should have been completed in version one of my revised database... the errors were caused by the TOT entry for pitchers who played on more than one team during the season and also because of the messed up sorting by date in the spreadsheet. Iatric, I'll send you some email later tonight with the file, assuming all tests on the file go well.... I'll leave the positional work to you, its probably smarter to let you handle this since you've done it before.

04-30-2002, 03:54 PM	#6
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,267	Initial Tests have gone well. Pending a few other tests I'll submit it for upload.

04-30-2002, 05:00 PM	#7
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,267	Here is the ReadMe file for the second revised version of the 4.5 Lahman Database. Lahman Database 4.5 - Revised Edition (4.5.2) Last updated April 30, 2002 Questions, Comments Email Me: at vibdog@hotmail.com First and foremost I'd like to thank Steve (blmeanie) for running these files through a program to get the sorting correct to prevent other statistical import oddities. To Install Take these files and replace the existing pitching, batting, fielding, and master .csv files in the Version 4.5 Lahman Database. Version 4.5.1 Fixes: 1) Added Missing Biographical Data for players who debuted from 1998 - 2001, and some from earlier seasons 2) Corrected some incorrect birthdates 3) Removed Pitcher Statistical Issue. Pitchers who appeared on more than one team, had double the stats in the original database, this was fixed. Version 4.5.2 Fixes: 1) Added missing stats for the 1871-1875 Seasons 2) Corrected Statistical Issues caused by improper database sorting Enjoy. Scott Vibert

04-30-2002, 06:01 PM	#9
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,267	When they upload it you should be able to get it from Baseball Sim Central

05-01-2002, 09:15 AM	#11
Cusefan95 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Manchester, CT Posts: 109	If I am in the middle of a career in which I was using 4.5.1, can I begin using 4.5.2 midway through the career without any problems? Can I just overwrite 4.5.1 with 4.5.2 on my c:\drive? Thanks for the reply. __________________ 81-78 2003 NCAA Division 1-A Men's Basketball Champions

05-01-2002, 09:39 AM	#12
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,267	Yes you can.. there should be no ill effects. In fact the 4.5.2 update is just 4 files Master, Batting, Pitching, and Fielding and to install you need to overwrite the existing copies.

05-01-2002, 05:23 PM	#13
MiddleGA Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 77	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ScottVib: <strong>Yes you can.. there should be no ill effects. In fact the 4.5.2 update is just 4 files Master, Batting, Pitching, and Fielding and to install you need to overwrite the existing copies.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Okay, I know I'm being a bit dim here but ... Does 4.5.2 include the fixes from 4.5.1? i.e. -- If I'm working with the Lahman original 4.5, do I need to install 4.5.1 and _then_ do 4.5.2? Or just the brand spankin' new one? TIA, Jon

05-01-2002, 05:24 PM	#14
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,267	The brand spanken new one has all of the fixes.. the four files included in the downloads are the only ones I've monkeyed with. Hope this helps.

05-01-2002, 09:53 PM	#15
Tresclub All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: La Mesa, CA USA Posts: 1,908	Doesn't look like they've uploaded it as yet Scott. So, I'm headed for bed. Will try again tomorrow... er, later today. lol

05-02-2002, 05:56 AM	#16
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,267	Warren, if you'd like to continue to host it, I can send you a copy to post.... it might allow it to get out there quicker, for those waiting...

05-02-2002, 07:14 AM	#17
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,267	Bad news.. Baseball Sim Central is holding off on uploading the file at the moment as they are concerned of potential legal issues if they upload it... so until I can do some digging and alay their fears the revised database will remain unavailable... I will try and get this straightened out as soon as I can.

05-02-2002, 07:32 AM	#18
Tresclub All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: La Mesa, CA USA Posts: 1,908	mmm, if there are "legal issues" to be concerned with in this updated version, what about those same "issues" with previous versions? Or, for that matter, any and/or all roster sets using the real names of mlb players.

05-02-2002, 07:40 AM	#19
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,267	There aren't that I know of, so long as you aren't charging anything or making money off of the update, I just have to do some digging so I can convince them. I did mention they have hosted other revised editions of the database in the past... They are just practicing the principle of CYA, which I can understand and respect. Once I prove its all good, then there should be no problems.

05-02-2002, 01:09 PM	#20
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,661	isnt sean like a counsulant for .400 software studios. Unless he has a problem with it which i dont see why he would but if he doesnt then i dont see what the problem is. To me i would think Sean would welcome any corrections people find or any information. I know i changed the death date to retirement dates. To some it may be important but to me i could care less when they died but when they retired.