Should I veto this Fantasy trade?

Prior81 · 03-20-2006, 10:53 AM

Owner 1 Sends:
OF Jeff Francoeur
SP Ervin Santana

Owner 2 Sends:
1B Paul Konerko
OF Carlos Lee

This is a keeper league and Owner 2 is trying to get a young team full of potential. I think this is a pretty bad trade.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 03-20-2006, 10:58 AM

Which owner are you?

Riverdome · 03-20-2006, 10:58 AM

Only veto if you suspect cheating. If an owner wants to make a bonehead trade it's his team to do with as he wishes.

Besides one never knows what will happen. I picked up Bruce Chen in a straight up trade for Dallas MacPherson before opening day last season. Looked terrible on paper but I actually ended up getting the better end of that deal.

CommishJoe · 03-20-2006, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Riverdome

Only veto if you suspect cheating. If an owner wants to make a bonehead trade it's his team to do with as he wishes.

Agreed

Eckstein 4 Prez · 03-20-2006, 11:00 AM

Oh, yeah - if you're neither of the owners then hell no, you shouldn't veto anything unless there's some reason to suspect cheating.

Prior81 · 03-20-2006, 11:01 AM

I'm the commish, just looking for opinions. I dont really suspect cheating, but he's basically giving Owner 1 a couple of great players.

Sublimity · 03-20-2006, 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Prior81

I'm the commish, just looking for opinions. I dont really suspect cheating, but he's basically giving Owner 1 a couple of decent players in exchange for prospects.

That's not really veto-worthy.

Sublimity · 03-20-2006, 11:05 AM

dola,

I voted No Veot. No matter what the trade, I whole-heartedly am against veots.

andymac · 03-20-2006, 11:05 AM

I voted "No Veot".

*Edit* - Funk beat me to it.

*Double Edit* - Damnit, that is Sublimity

Sublimity · 03-20-2006, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by andymac

I voted "No Veot".

*Edit* - Funk beat me to it.

*Double Edit* - Damnit, that is Sublimity

Boozie1580 · 03-20-2006, 12:26 PM

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Originally Posted by andymac

*Double Edit* - Damnit, that is Sublimity

See what you've done?

Skipaway · 03-20-2006, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Boozie1580

See what you've done?

Sublimity is a joke stealer. I would bet he isn't even Mexican!

Sublimity · 03-20-2006, 12:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipaway

Sublimity is a joke stealer. I would bet he isn't even Mexican!

I am half German. That qualifies me as far as I'm concerned!

Craig S. · 03-20-2006, 12:53 PM

There's no reason that trade should be vetoed.

Derek4jc · 03-20-2006, 12:59 PM

If it was in a stand alone 1 year league I could understand you considering a veto, but being a keeper league, undoubtably it should not be vetoed.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 03-20-2006, 01:10 PM

Frankly, if I were one of the owners involved I'd be pretty irate that you were even considering vetoing this. Basically, IMO you shouldn't be even considering a move like this unless you've got evidence of collusion or other cheating.

QuestGAV · 03-20-2006, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Eckstein 4 Prez

Frankly, if I were one of the owners involved I'd be pretty irate that you were even considering vetoing this. Basically, IMO you shouldn't be even considering a move like this unless you've got evidence of collusion or other cheating.

Some leagues have different norms. If you've got a league with high turnover with guys who come in and out and there's someone who takes advantage of the newcomers and helps promote that turnover it might be in the interests of the league to put a stop on that. This trade seems goofy enough to me that I'd consider stopping it in that case, as Francouer and Ervin Santana both seem like fairly lame keepers even if they top out on their potential.

Erik W. · 03-20-2006, 02:06 PM

Your job as commish is to make sure that things run smoothly and fairly. Your job is not to hold someone's hand if they're an idiot.

No veto.

abailey3313 · 03-20-2006, 02:31 PM

It's a keeper league. Maybe the one owner is building for future years.

Craig S. · 03-20-2006, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by abailey3313

It's a keeper league. Maybe the one owner is building for future years.

That's what the first post seems to indicate, and I don't see anything wrong with building for the future if you can't win now.

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03-20-2006, 10:53 AM	#1
Prior81 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 302	Should I veto this Fantasy trade? Owner 1 Sends: OF Jeff Francoeur SP Ervin Santana Owner 2 Sends: 1B Paul Konerko OF Carlos Lee This is a keeper league and Owner 2 is trying to get a young team full of potential. I think this is a pretty bad trade.

03-20-2006, 10:58 AM	#2
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,358	Which owner are you? __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

03-20-2006, 10:58 AM	#3
Riverdome All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 964	Only veto if you suspect cheating. If an owner wants to make a bonehead trade it's his team to do with as he wishes. Besides one never knows what will happen. I picked up Bruce Chen in a straight up trade for Dallas MacPherson before opening day last season. Looked terrible on paper but I actually ended up getting the better end of that deal. __________________ I was at the first OOTP Conference, where were you?..........

03-20-2006, 11:00 AM	#5
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,358	Oh, yeah - if you're neither of the owners then hell no, you shouldn't veto anything unless there's some reason to suspect cheating. __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

03-20-2006, 11:01 AM	#6
Prior81 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 302	I'm the commish, just looking for opinions. I dont really suspect cheating, but he's basically giving Owner 1 a couple of great players.

03-20-2006, 11:05 AM	#8
Sublimity Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: This thread. Posts: 3,199	dola, I voted No Veot. No matter what the trade, I whole-heartedly am against veots. __________________ mrs ria: I hereby dub Sublimity the Glorious Upholder of the 5B3. Current leading vote-getter in the Worst Poster in OT History poll.

03-20-2006, 11:05 AM	#9
andymac Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Effingham, IL Posts: 5,725	I voted "No Veot". Edit - Funk beat me to it. Double Edit - Damnit, that is Sublimity __________________ June Madness: Links FTB: andymac Last edited by andymac; 03-20-2006 at 11:07 AM.

03-20-2006, 12:53 PM	#14
Craig S. Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 114	There's no reason that trade should be vetoed.

03-20-2006, 12:59 PM	#15
Derek4jc Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2004 Location: Attleboro, MA Posts: 238	If it was in a stand alone 1 year league I could understand you considering a veto, but being a keeper league, undoubtably it should not be vetoed. __________________ Commish of the EWBBL EWBBL Standings Page EWBBL Forums Available Teams: Chicago White Sox Cleveland Indians Florida Marlins New York Mets New York Yankees Philadelphia Phillies Pittsburgh Pirates Texas Rangers

03-20-2006, 01:10 PM	#16
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,358	Frankly, if I were one of the owners involved I'd be pretty irate that you were even considering vetoing this. Basically, IMO you shouldn't be even considering a move like this unless you've got evidence of collusion or other cheating. __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

03-20-2006, 02:06 PM	#18
Erik W. Global Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rivière-du-Loup, Qc Posts: 4,615	Your job as commish is to make sure that things run smoothly and fairly. Your job is not to hold someone's hand if they're an idiot. No veto.

03-20-2006, 02:31 PM	#19
abailey3313 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 3,718	It's a keeper league. Maybe the one owner is building for future years. __________________