Players in the minors

[westendcards]

I am new at this, looking for some help. I am interested in creating a setup similar to the current setup in Baseball, with full minor leagues. How would I get the real players in the minors? I understand using the lahman database, I will be able to fill out the majors but what about the minors, do I have to create all of those players one by one? Thanks
Phil...

[rocknfire7]

Originally Posted by westendcards

I am new at this, looking for some help. I am interested in creating a setup similar to the current setup in Baseball, with full minor leagues. How would I get the real players in the minors? I understand using the lahman database, I will be able to fill out the majors but what about the minors, do I have to create all of those players one by one? Thanks
Phil...

Hi Phil
If you want the real minor league rosters I don't think there is a database for that. Otherwise the game will create fictional players from scratch.

[westendcards]

Yeah I was hoping for the real rosters, to make it as relistic as possible. I will probably take my time and play every game, not really interested in simulating several seasons so I would like the one season I play to be as realistic as can be. I would like to have total control over all teams trades, lineups, moves, demotions, etc. It would be neat (to me) to play the season out making call ups and replacing injured players with however I want and see how things turn out. So you do not know of anyway to get real minor league players into the game. Is it possible to create them by scratch? How would I go about doing that, would this be crazy hard and time consuming?
Thanks

[markprior22]

There are always people out there who create major league rosters also. Some of them add a few of the top minor league prospects but I don't know of anyone who's done a full minors set in the past.

[battists]

One might posit that you would be better off waiting for the new version, rather than doing this in the current version now. It will be a lot of work in either case, but still...

[westendcards]

Does anyone know where I can find complete minor league statistics for players who played in the minors from 2000-2005, I would like to use this data to create these players?

[DodgerGEP]

Originally Posted by westendcards

Does anyone know where I can find complete minor league statistics for players who played in the minors from 2000-2005, I would like to use this data to create these players?

http://www.thebaseballcube.com/index.shtml

[Hammer]

I personally wouldn't create every player for every minor league team, it would be time consuming and hard to get accurate ratings for every single player, AAA all the way down to low A, and with the game handling of minors, releasing players, waiving players, trades.

If I was going to create a MLB league like you want with real players I would use the roster sets as stated earlier, some would include the top prospects, and plus after you'd finish one season of play with the next year's draft your already on your way to having a completely fictional league with the new draft entries

[jbsnadb]

With somewhere in the neighborhood of 180 AFFILIATED MiLB teams, that would be one hell of an undertaking.

Of course, you do realize that "realistic" goes out the window with the first pitch, right?

[Sweed]

Originally Posted by westendcards

Yeah I was hoping for the real rosters, to make it as relistic as possible. I will probably take my time and play every game, not really interested in simulating several seasons so I would like the one season I play to be as realistic as can be. I would like to have total control over all teams trades, lineups, moves, demotions, etc. It would be neat (to me) to play the season out making call ups and replacing injured players with however I want and see how things turn out. So you do not know of anyway to get real minor league players into the game. Is it possible to create them by scratch? How would I go about doing that, would this be crazy hard and time consuming?
Thanks

I'm not sure from your first post, do you already have v6 or are you planing ahead for the new ootpbb 2006?

Either way I am a player that plays out every inning of every game. I too have no interest in simulating games, I just don't feel like I am really involved that way. If you really want real players for your first season I would try to find the top 10 to 15 prospects for each team and just make them.

Having said that I don't think it is necessary at all. As others have stated real rosters are made by some of the users here and may already contain some of the top prospects. Even if you only start with the current major leaguers I think you will be pleased when playing out all your games. In this type of league all of your players will become real in your mind.

Ever hear of Forest Avera, Terry Lemons or Eric Annunziata? No, didn't think so but I have. These guys too me are as real as Biggio, Lee, or Pujols. They are stars in my current leauge. A league where I have played every game from 2002 to 2013. The league has tranformed in those 11 seasons to become probably 65 to 70% fictional.

I know this isn't what you were asking but thought I'd throw it out there, one every game player to another. Good luck with whatever you decided to do.

[Malleus Dei]

Originally Posted by westendcards

Is it possible to create them by scratch? How would I go about doing that, would this be crazy hard and time consuming?

Speaking as a veteran roster maker, the answer is yes, it would be crazy hard and time consuming.

[rudel.dietrich]

One of the many reasons I am glad I enjoy fictional universes more than real ones. For me it sucks the fun out when a real player does not perform how he is supossed to.
Playing the odd historical season is fun but no where near as fun as a completly fictional universe.

[jbsnadb]

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

One of the many reasons I am glad I enjoy fictional universes more than real ones. For me it sucks the fun out when a real player does not perform how he is supossed to.
Playing the odd historical season is fun but no where near as fun as a completly fictional universe.

Amen.

[Zitofan75]

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

One of the many reasons I am glad I enjoy fictional universes more than real ones. For me it sucks the fun out when a real player does not perform how he is supossed to.
Playing the odd historical season is fun but no where near as fun as a completly fictional universe.

Often if I do a replay league in OOTP 6.5 I sim it, compare the results to the actual and then adjust the engine numbers to try and "dial it in." Takes some of the fun away for me though since I don't really want to spend that much time on game mechanics as I do running a ballclub. That's why I generally also go for fictional as the results are what they are and nothing more. No worries about what's supposed to happen.

Still, I will likely want to have one game going with all modern players and for minors would want the real top prospects. Otherwise I'd probably just let the game fill things in except for a team or two that are my favorites.

[Green & Gold Heart]

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

One of the many reasons I am glad I enjoy fictional universes more than real ones. For me it sucks the fun out when a real player does not perform how he is supossed to.
Playing the odd historical season is fun but no where near as fun as a completly fictional universe.

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[cdheer]

Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

One of the many reasons I am glad I enjoy fictional universes more than real ones. For me it sucks the fun out when a real player does not perform how he is supossed to.
Playing the odd historical season is fun but no where near as fun as a completly fictional universe.

In a sense, yes. But I've also often played with current roster sets, and I enjoy that too.

And it forces me to be diciplined. I have to ignore what I know about "real life" because it may not match up. Sure, scouts may all be saying now that Felix Pie is the next 5-tool wunderkind, but I can tell you in my current OOTP-real-rosters game he's 29 and mired in AA ball. I can't rely on my knowledge of current MLB and minor league players, because going forward they may be very different. (Jerry Hairston won the MVP in 2007 in my league, and Johan Santana went 5-12 with a 6.10 ERA. So there you are.)

--chris

[Peter]

I set the minors in my league. However there are some fictional players on most teams. I did setup the Rays minor league organizations with real players and photos. I used someone elses real minors roster set to start out, (don't remember who or I would credit him). The attributes are generally random tho'. More than 80% have photos. It could be done if 30 people or so each did a team. Just a thought.