WBC: Canada vs. Mexico - Page 3

Gastric ReFlux · 03-10-2006, 09:33 AM

If only one team advances from a group, you can have a head-to-head tie at 2-1.

If two teams advance from a group, you can't have a two-way tie to go to a tiebreaker for a tie by second and third place.

If the United States loses to South Africa, boy, that'll go down in infamy here in the States. I'll blame A-Rod.

Sdpm100 · 03-10-2006, 10:42 AM

You're forgetting that games can end in a tie.
So as long as each team ties at least once, a head-to-head tiebreak can be applied for 2nd & 3rd.

If that was to happen, you could have the following standings:
2-0-1
1-1-1
1-1-1
0-2-1

And then as long as the two teams at 1-1-1 didn't play each other in one of the two tied games, the winner of the game between them would be placed higher.

And of course if two teams finish at 2-1 and two at 1-2, then the group positioning would also be determined by head-to-head.

Gastric ReFlux · 03-10-2006, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sdpm100

You're forgetting that games can end in a tie.
So as long as each team ties at least once, a head-to-head tiebreak can be applied for 2nd & 3rd.

If that was to happen, you could have the following standings:
2-0-1
1-1-1
1-1-1
0-2-1

And then as long as the two teams at 1-1-1 didn't play each other in one of the two tied games, the winner of the game between them would be placed higher.

And of course if two teams finish at 2-1 and two at 1-2, then the group positioning would also be determined by head-to-head.

Oh they don't do extra innings?

Thanks, that changes things all right.

andymac · 03-10-2006, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Gastric ReFlux

Oh they don't do extra innings?

Thanks, that changes things all right.

They do extra innings, but only to 14. After that it is a tie.

Craig S. · 03-10-2006, 12:02 PM

I thought Bud Selig's history with tie games would have made him hesitant to allow them in the WBC. Maybe, instead of extra innings, they could break ties with a homerun contest, or a team race around the bases.

eriqjaffe · 03-10-2006, 12:42 PM

Or they could just decide the extra innings using MVP 2005.

Gastric ReFlux · 03-10-2006, 12:44 PM

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Originally Posted by eriqjaffe

Or they could just decide the extra innings using MVP 2005.

Oh man, how'd that game turn out anyway?

boilermaker · 03-10-2006, 02:39 PM

Panama is facing a mercy rule loss against the Netherlands right now. Well, it's 7-0 in the 5th for the Orange.

edit...mlb's "in progress" board is soooo sweet:

http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/y2006...nt_1&brand=wbc

boilermaker · 03-10-2006, 02:45 PM

Holy smokes, not only is Holland shutting out Panama, it's currently a no-hitter in the 5th....and not only is it a no-hitter, but there's only been one baserunner. One walk shy of a perfect game.

Gastric ReFlux · 03-10-2006, 02:49 PM

Hey, that in progress page is very nice.

boilermaker · 03-10-2006, 02:52 PM

If you scroll your mouse over the pitcher, it gives his pitch count, plus a strike/ball ratio....same with baserunners, fielders, etc.

boilermaker · 03-10-2006, 02:55 PM

Uh, 10-0, top of the 5th.....we're five runs away from mercy rule and there's no indication that Panama will ever get out of this half inning.

Panama's SS Miller has three errors in this game. I remember he dropped a pop up against Puerto Rico. His dream of the Majors is over!

edti...it's 16 hits to 0.

Gastric ReFlux · 03-10-2006, 03:20 PM

2 outs away in Panama-Netherlands from a 6-inning no -hitter.

Panama needs a run to avoid mercy rule.

Whoops, it's Netherlands batting top 7th?

Gastric ReFlux · 03-10-2006, 03:22 PM

Does a game have to go at least 7 innings before mercy gets called? Maybe, I don't know.

andymac · 03-10-2006, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Gastric ReFlux

Does a game have to go at least 7 innings before mercy gets called? Maybe, I don't know.

10 runs after 7
15 runs after 5

Gastric ReFlux · 03-10-2006, 03:26 PM

Okay, well we're 3 outs away from a 7-inning mercy rule no-hitter.

Gastric ReFlux · 03-10-2006, 03:27 PM

Fielding error!

Gastric ReFlux · 03-10-2006, 03:28 PM

Lasso flies out. 2 outs away.

Gastric ReFlux · 03-10-2006, 03:30 PM

Double play, Martis pitches a seven inning no-hitter on Panama.

Sdpm100 · 03-10-2006, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Gastric ReFlux

Double play, Martis pitches a seven inning no-hitter on Panama.

And without the double play he wouldn't have got the chance to the no-hitter, as he threw exactly 65 pitches.

03-10-2006, 12:42 PM	#46
eriqjaffe Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under The Christmas Fish Posts: 7,733	Or they could just decide the extra innings using MVP 2005. __________________

03-10-2006, 02:39 PM	#48
boilermaker All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,956	Panama is facing a mercy rule loss against the Netherlands right now. Well, it's 7-0 in the 5th for the Orange. edit...mlb's "in progress" board is soooo sweet: http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/y2006...nt_1&brand=wbc Last edited by boilermaker; 03-10-2006 at 02:40 PM.

03-10-2006, 03:20 PM	#53
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	2 outs away in Panama-Netherlands from a 6-inning no -hitter. Panama needs a run to avoid mercy rule. Whoops, it's Netherlands batting top 7th? Last edited by Gastric ReFlux; 03-10-2006 at 03:21 PM.

03-10-2006, 09:33 AM	#41
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	If only one team advances from a group, you can have a head-to-head tie at 2-1. If two teams advance from a group, you can't have a two-way tie to go to a tiebreaker for a tie by second and third place. If the United States loses to South Africa, boy, that'll go down in infamy here in the States. I'll blame A-Rod.

03-10-2006, 10:42 AM	#42
Sdpm100 Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, England Posts: 7,644	You're forgetting that games can end in a tie. So as long as each team ties at least once, a head-to-head tiebreak can be applied for 2nd & 3rd. If that was to happen, you could have the following standings: 2-0-1 1-1-1 1-1-1 0-2-1 And then as long as the two teams at 1-1-1 didn't play each other in one of the two tied games, the winner of the game between them would be placed higher. And of course if two teams finish at 2-1 and two at 1-2, then the group positioning would also be determined by head-to-head.

03-10-2006, 12:02 PM	#45
Craig S. Minors (Double A) Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: Ohio Posts: 114	I thought Bud Selig's history with tie games would have made him hesitant to allow them in the WBC. Maybe, instead of extra innings, they could break ties with a homerun contest, or a team race around the bases.

03-10-2006, 02:45 PM	#49
boilermaker All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,956	Holy smokes, not only is Holland shutting out Panama, it's currently a no-hitter in the 5th....and not only is it a no-hitter, but there's only been one baserunner. One walk shy of a perfect game.

03-10-2006, 02:49 PM	#50
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	Hey, that in progress page is very nice.

03-10-2006, 02:52 PM	#51
boilermaker All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,956	If you scroll your mouse over the pitcher, it gives his pitch count, plus a strike/ball ratio....same with baserunners, fielders, etc.

03-10-2006, 02:55 PM	#52
boilermaker All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,956	Uh, 10-0, top of the 5th.....we're five runs away from mercy rule and there's no indication that Panama will ever get out of this half inning. Panama's SS Miller has three errors in this game. I remember he dropped a pop up against Puerto Rico. His dream of the Majors is over! edti...it's 16 hits to 0.

03-10-2006, 03:22 PM	#54
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	Does a game have to go at least 7 innings before mercy gets called? Maybe, I don't know.

03-10-2006, 03:26 PM	#56
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	Okay, well we're 3 outs away from a 7-inning mercy rule no-hitter.

03-10-2006, 03:27 PM	#57
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	Fielding error!

03-10-2006, 03:28 PM	#58
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	Lasso flies out. 2 outs away.

03-10-2006, 03:30 PM	#59
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	Double play, Martis pitches a seven inning no-hitter on Panama.