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Old 02-06-2006, 01:17 AM   #1
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Rate Hasselbeck's Performance

I thought he handled the blitz well. Many times he had to pass just a fraction of a second too early and the ball arrived before the receiver was looking, but that is better than a sack. Their blitz was firing on all cylinders and I think would have resulted in a lot of sacks against a lesser QB.

His % was a tad low but there were a lot of times he was rushed, a lot of dropped passes. I still think it was a successful QB performance.

Stats don't show the whole picture in football. He was moving the ball and a combination of legit and non-legit penalties defused the scoring total.
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Old 02-06-2006, 01:33 AM   #2
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I thought he handled the blitz well. Many times he had to pass just a fraction of a second too early and the ball arrived before the receiver was looking, but that is better than a sack. Their blitz was firing on all cylinders and I think would have resulted in a lot of sacks against a lesser QB.

His % was a tad low but there were a lot of times he was rushed, a lot of dropped passes. I still think it was a successful QB performance.

Stats don't show the whole picture in football. He was moving the ball and a combination of legit and non-legit penalties defused the scoring total.
Based on all I read about for the past two weeks about how Pittsburg would completely shut down the Seattle offense, I'd say he had a pretty good game. It is kind of ironic that the thing that finally put Seattle over the hump this year (receivers holding onto the ball) was a big part of why they lost this game.
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Old 02-06-2006, 01:35 AM   #3
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Hasselback I think did read the D pretty good. He was putting the ball in some tight spots. Just needed to make some more big plays.

Edit: Did hurt them the int to I. Taylor
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Old 02-06-2006, 01:37 AM   #4
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Based on all I read about for the past two weeks about how Pittsburg would completely shut down the Seattle offense, I'd say he had a pretty good game. It is kind of ironic that the thing that finally put Seattle over the hump this year (receivers holding onto the ball) was a big part of why they lost this game.
indeed. Hasselback was the lone bright spot on that team. Their receivers were useless, dropping passes and looking like they just learned how to catch yesterday. It's not like it's a January game in Soldier Field; It's a domed stadium, how much easier can it get?
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Old 02-06-2006, 01:51 AM   #5
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That INT was what dropped his grade from 'good' to 'average'.
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Old 02-06-2006, 01:54 AM   #6
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That INT was what dropped his grade from 'good' to 'average'.
at least he found a receiver that could catch the ball.

I wonder what you grade the other guys perfromance as since he made two
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at least he found a receiver that could catch the ball.

I wonder what you grade the other guys perfromance as since he made two
Actually Ike dropped one earlier in the game so maybe Hasselback thought he was one of his recievers.
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Old 02-06-2006, 01:57 AM   #8
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at least he found a receiver that could catch the ball.

I wonder what you grade the other guys perfromance as since he made two
I thought Hasselback was good. He executed the short game well, and the only reason I wouldn't rank him higher is because they never had the opportunity to open things up deep because of the constant dropped passes and penalties.

Ben was pretty damn pedestrian. I think he's a great QB, but he definitely seemed to have too much adrenaline going tonight. If you've seen him in other games he tends to be one of the more accurate QB's in the league, and tonight he was all over the place. I actually thought his decision making was ok, he just didn't physically get it done. His picks weren't of the Neil O'Donnell SB variety.
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Old 02-06-2006, 02:01 AM   #9
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I thought Hasselback was good. He executed the short game well, and the only reason I wouldn't rank him higher is because they never had the opportunity to open things up deep because of the constant dropped passes and penalties.

Ben was pretty damn pedestrian. I think he's a great QB, but he definitely seemed to have too much adrenaline going tonight. If you've seen him in other games he tends to be one of the more accurate QB's in the league, and tonight he was all over the place. I actually thought his decision making was ok, he just didn't physically get it done. His picks weren't of the Neil O'Donnell SB variety.
We'd agree on Hasselback here. He was the better of the two QB's tongiht. I think that the other guy had what, two? three plays that counted for anything and two of them were long bombs that could have easily backfired badly.

The way I look at it, Seattle QB = Good, would be great if his receivers didn't treat the ball like a ticking time bomb, Pittsburgh QB = Poor with brief flashes of brilliance.
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Old 02-06-2006, 02:03 AM   #10
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Neither QB was stellar. Hasselbeck was somewhere between average and good--closer to average. He only averaged 5.5 YPA, and that jives with what I remember from the game--him throwing a lot of easy stuff and not going downfield. He had a lot of time on quite a few plays. I don't know that Turner and Townsend were shutting down the receivers every play. I think Hasselbeck was playing too conservatively.

The drops hurt him, but the last drive padded his stats quite a bit too.

He certainly wasn't sharp. I think of a crossing pattern on a blitz check-off that he gunned at his receiver's back shoulder. A casual fan might call that a drop, but it's a terrible pass. You throw a ball 70 mph to a guy who is 5 yards away and hit him in the back shoulder while he's sprinting and expect him to catch it? I also remember the crossfield throw towards the end. Those were just too example plays--Hasselbeck made a lot of nice throws, and average isn't bad, and the Pitt blitz gave him a few troubles (but all in all the protection was good enough), but he certainly didn't light things up.

Pitt has a good D, but they're not the '85 Bears. They're just not on the field too much.

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Old 02-06-2006, 02:22 AM   #11
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His picks weren't of the Neil O'Donnell SB variety.
The one to Herndon was definitely of the NO'D variety - the receiver was open for the TD and BR just threw it right to Herndon
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Old 02-06-2006, 02:29 AM   #12
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Ben was pretty damn pedestrian.
He had the lowest QB rating of any Superbowl winning QB.
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Old 02-06-2006, 02:35 AM   #13
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I wonder what you grade the other guys perfromance as since he made two
I'd lean towards 'horrible'. 9 out of 21, no TDs, and if there was such a stat as 'total passing yards', Roethlisberger would be around 50, thanks to that one big return. What's more, I have the impression that he had more help -- fewer out-and-out drops (or receivers who don't even make an effort to get the other foot in bounds) and better protection.
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Old 02-06-2006, 08:38 AM   #14
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The one to Herndon was definitely of the NO'D variety - the receiver was open for the TD and BR just threw it right to Herndon
Yeah, that was a horrible pass, but I don't think it was a huge surprise since he wasn't throwing accurately the entire game. I don't think it was a bad decision to make that throw, he just didn't put it in the right place. This is probably slight paraphrasing, but after the game he even said "my brain said to throw it over the top but my arm threw it underneath." I realize that's not much consolation, but I feel a lot better about a QB if he plays badly but still makes good decisions. I've watched Ben enough to know that 99% of the time he can put the ball where he wants it.
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Whoever voted great is either still drunk, hungover, or still intoxicated.
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Old 02-06-2006, 10:36 AM   #16
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Whoever voted great is either still drunk, hungover, or still intoxicated.
Yes, who could that cat be?
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Old 02-06-2006, 01:24 PM   #17
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Whoever voted great is either still drunk, hungover, or still intoxicated.
I actually was about to vote "Good" and then I remembered I'd have to offset tim_uwf's future ridiculous vote. Seriously.
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Old 02-06-2006, 10:12 PM   #18
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I went poor. I think as far as his passing, he was excellent. He put so many balls right on the money that his WR's dropped and he handled the blitz perfectly. But, the QB postion is at it's most importance in crunch time and that's where he got a big fat 0.

At the end of not only one half, but two halves the guy looked clueless. He threw a ****ing 3 yard pass in the middle of the field with 48 seconds left in the first half and then lined up and ran the clock down to 12 seconds. I mean, what the f*ck?

Then at the end of the game he did the same thing. With 4 minutes left he's throwing little 3-5 yard outs and little dump offs over the middle. I don't know what the guy was thinking.

Then you had at the end of the 3rd quarter he hurries up and lines up the team for a final play in the 3rd quarter with like 7 seconds left and throws a ball 15 feet over his WR's head. He'd been better off unbuckling his chin strap and going over to get some water as the time ran out.

Hassleback looked brilliant most of the game but when it came down to the time when a QB earns his stripes... he failed miserably.
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I thought he handled the blitz well. Many times he had to pass just a fraction of a second too early and the ball arrived before the receiver was looking, but that is better than a sack. Their blitz was firing on all cylinders and I think would have resulted in a lot of sacks against a lesser QB.

His % was a tad low but there were a lot of times he was rushed, a lot of dropped passes. I still think it was a successful QB performance.

Stats don't show the whole picture in football. He was moving the ball and a combination of legit and non-legit penalties defused the scoring total.
Bet when you started this you never thought you'd be the only one to vote "great."
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Then at the end of the game he did the same thing. With 4 minutes left he's throwing little 3-5 yard outs and little dump offs over the middle. I don't know what the guy was thinking.
Probably that if he threw any further downfield, he'd again hit one of those receivers who'd go "Eek! What? Um... a football? Oops. Damn. Can I get some more Gatorade now?"
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