OOTP BM 2006 Simulation speed test!

Markus Heinsohn · 12-13-2005, 02:02 PM

For those of you who have not read the latest blog, here are the results of some tests I ran

For those who have read it, I added two more scenarios, so the results should be interesting nontheless.

I have a Athlon64 4000+ CPU, a gig of RAM, and a Raid-0 HD system. So it's a fast system.

Test 1:
OOTP 6.5 League, modern MLB setup, including simulating minor league games
Number of Games: ~ 6000
Number of Players: ~ 2000 (I did not fill the minors)
Number of Teams: 30 (120 when you count the virtual minor league teams)
Number of Leagues: 1
Test includes:
Writing boxscores for ~2200 MLB games
Simulating full season, stop before playoffs
Result Test 1: 9 Minutes, 7 Seconds

Test 2:
OOTP BM 2006 world, modern MLB setup with 16 minor leagues, including simulating all minor league games
Number of Games: ~ 11500
Number of Players: ~ 8800 (does include hidden players)
Number of Teams: 210
Number of Leagues: 17
Test includes:
Inaugural fantasy draft
Simulating full season, stop before playoffs (although because of the shorter minor league schedules, all minor league leagues had their playoffs simulated)
Writing boxscores for ~2200 MLB games
June amateur draft
Result Test 2: 2 Minutes, 15 Seconds (The time varies from the one posted in the blog because Andreas optimized the writing of the boxscores.

Test 3:
OOTP BM 2006 world, modern MLB setup with 16 minor leagues, including simulating all minor league games
Number of Games: ~ 11500
Number of Players: ~ 8800 (does include hidden players)
Number of Teams: 210
Number of Leagues: 17
Test includes:
Inaugural fantasy draft
Simulating full season, stop before playoffs (although because of the shorter minor league schedules, all minor league leagues had their playoffs simulated)
Writing boxscores for all 11500 Games
June amateur draft
Result Test 3: 4 Minutes, 22 Seconds

Test 4:
OOTP BM 2006 world, fictional setup, 24 team league, with 5 minor leagues attached with 24 teams each.
Number of Games: ~ 7900
Number of Players: ~ 6700 (does include hidden players)
Number of Teams: 144
Number of Leagues: 6
Test includes:
Writing boxscores for all 7900 Games
June Amateur draft
Simulating full season, stop before playoffs (although because of the shorter minor league schedules, all minor league leagues had their playoffs simulated)
Result Test 4: 2 Minutes, 19 Seconds

Please keep in mind that it is important to view minor leagues in OOTP BM 2006 almost the same as a league in OOTP 6, because they have awards, an allstar game, playoffs, reports, news, boxscores etc.

Of course, there is still stuff missing in OOTP BM 2006 so far (i.e. trading AI), but on the other hand the engine is not speed-optimized yet. So I expect the times to stay in the same ballpark.

Riverdome · 12-13-2005, 02:07 PM

Maybe I missed something very basic but what's a "hidden player?"

Markus Heinsohn · 12-13-2005, 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Riverdome

Maybe I missed something very basic but what's a "hidden player?"

Thats a player sitting in Puerto Rico who hasn't been discovered by a scout yet.

Depending on the baseball quality of a country, each has a number of hidden players than can be discovered by your scouts. Of course, this is an option

Sublimity · 12-13-2005, 02:10 PM

So...

Is it spring yet?

ifspuds · 12-13-2005, 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Thats a player sitting in Puerto Rico who hasn't been discovered by a scout yet.

Depending on the baseball quality of a country, each has a number of hidden players than can be discovered by your scouts. Of course, this is an option

Markus, you're my hero.

And wow... the speed optimization is impressive!

EDIT: I can already tell that I might just have to start my Outpost League dynasty over again. So many options are making it into OOTPBM that I wanted in order to run it the way I envisioned.

Sublimity · 12-13-2005, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Thats a player sitting in Puerto Rico who hasn't been discovered by a scout yet.

Depending on the baseball quality of a country, each has a number of hidden players than can be discovered by your scouts. Of course, this is an option

At first I thought the first sentence was a joke! Whoa...

Is it spring yet?

Marc Duffy · 12-13-2005, 02:14 PM

Pre-ordering available : http://www.elicense.com/sigames/store

Boozie1580 · 12-13-2005, 02:14 PM

This is great news, awesome work Markus.

Mr.Opinion · 12-13-2005, 02:41 PM

The hidden player thingy is quite cool.

Thanks for the new blog Markus and SI.

jnshmoo · 12-13-2005, 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marc Duffy

Pre-ordering available : http://www.elicense.com/sigames/store

Anyone else get the impression that Marc would make a good drug dealer?

Marc Duffy · 12-13-2005, 02:54 PM

If the dealer gave as good a discount as I do, I'd be impressed

Sublimity · 12-13-2005, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jnshmoo

Anyone else get the impression that Marc would make a good drug dealer?

No kidding. Let's look at how this has been run: all these blogs -- previews of the goods. Continually mentioning how easy it is to preorder it. They're even sampling their older stuff (OOTP 5).

In return for that 20% discount, we're probably going to have to smuggle hard copies of the game across borders to some countries or something. That's gonna be an oddly shaped balloon...

Le Grande Orange · 12-13-2005, 03:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

I have a Athlon64 4000+ CPU, a gig of RAM, and a Raid-0 HD system. So it's a fast system.

Indeed it is! My system is a dinosaur in comparison.

Though on the positive side, I've always liked dinosaurs.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Test 4:
OOTP BM 2006 world, fictional setup, 24 team league, with 5 minor leagues attached with 24 teams each.

Still curious about the minor leagues and their relationship to their parent majors. Does each minor league subordinate have to have the same number of teams in it as the major league parent league?

In the past, this often wasn't the case (for many years there were 24 AAA teams and only 16 MLB teams), and even today it's not the case for the Short Season A and Rookie classifications, where there are fewer clubs than in the parent MLB.

kingcharlesxii · 12-13-2005, 04:12 PM

Very impressive stuff and I really like the hidden player feature, it sounds promising.

plubbr · 12-13-2005, 04:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sublimity

Is it spring yet?

I know that time flies, but why can't we make it fly faster?

Sublimity · 12-13-2005, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by plubbr

I know that time flies, but why can't we make it fly faster?

Maybe it would, if we had OOTPBM2006! It goes a LOT faster!

Cuss · 12-13-2005, 05:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

Indeed it is! My system is a dinosaur in comparison.

Though on the positive side, I've always liked dinosaurs.

But compare it to 6.5, it will still cut down to a quarter of whatever time it takes for you right now. That's simply amazing!

thomamon · 12-13-2005, 05:04 PM

Oh come on, the anticipation is fun!

And if you keep telling yourself that, maybe you'll believe it.

eriqjaffe · 12-13-2005, 05:12 PM

If you want, I'd be happy to beta test OOTP:BM on my crappy old laptop.

You know, for compatability and minimum requirements purposes. Nudge nudge!

MrJones · 12-13-2005, 06:10 PM

Wow! This sounds great!

12-13-2005, 02:02 PM	#1
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 24,805	OOTP BM 2006 Simulation speed test! For those of you who have not read the latest blog, here are the results of some tests I ran For those who have read it, I added two more scenarios, so the results should be interesting nontheless. I have a Athlon64 4000+ CPU, a gig of RAM, and a Raid-0 HD system. So it's a fast system. Test 1: OOTP 6.5 League, modern MLB setup, including simulating minor league games Number of Games: ~ 6000 Number of Players: ~ 2000 (I did not fill the minors) Number of Teams: 30 (120 when you count the virtual minor league teams) Number of Leagues: 1 Test includes: Writing boxscores for ~2200 MLB games Simulating full season, stop before playoffs Result Test 1: 9 Minutes, 7 Seconds Test 2: OOTP BM 2006 world, modern MLB setup with 16 minor leagues, including simulating all minor league games Number of Games: ~ 11500 Number of Players: ~ 8800 (does include hidden players) Number of Teams: 210 Number of Leagues: 17 Test includes: Inaugural fantasy draft Simulating full season, stop before playoffs (although because of the shorter minor league schedules, all minor league leagues had their playoffs simulated) Writing boxscores for ~2200 MLB games June amateur draft Result Test 2: 2 Minutes, 15 Seconds (The time varies from the one posted in the blog because Andreas optimized the writing of the boxscores. Test 3: OOTP BM 2006 world, modern MLB setup with 16 minor leagues, including simulating all minor league games Number of Games: ~ 11500 Number of Players: ~ 8800 (does include hidden players) Number of Teams: 210 Number of Leagues: 17 Test includes: Inaugural fantasy draft Simulating full season, stop before playoffs (although because of the shorter minor league schedules, all minor league leagues had their playoffs simulated) Writing boxscores for all 11500 Games June amateur draft Result Test 3: 4 Minutes, 22 Seconds Test 4: OOTP BM 2006 world, fictional setup, 24 team league, with 5 minor leagues attached with 24 teams each. Number of Games: ~ 7900 Number of Players: ~ 6700 (does include hidden players) Number of Teams: 144 Number of Leagues: 6 Test includes: Writing boxscores for all 7900 Games June Amateur draft Simulating full season, stop before playoffs (although because of the shorter minor league schedules, all minor league leagues had their playoffs simulated) Result Test 4: 2 Minutes, 19 Seconds Please keep in mind that it is important to view minor leagues in OOTP BM 2006 almost the same as a league in OOTP 6, because they have awards, an allstar game, playoffs, reports, news, boxscores etc. Of course, there is still stuff missing in OOTP BM 2006 so far (i.e. trading AI), but on the other hand the engine is not speed-optimized yet. So I expect the times to stay in the same ballpark.

12-13-2005, 02:07 PM	#2
Riverdome All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 964	Maybe I missed something very basic but what's a "hidden player?" __________________ I was at the first OOTP Conference, where were you?..........

12-13-2005, 02:10 PM	#4
Sublimity Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: This thread. Posts: 3,199	So... Is it spring yet? __________________ mrs ria: I hereby dub Sublimity the Glorious Upholder of the 5B3. Current leading vote-getter in the Worst Poster in OT History poll.

12-13-2005, 02:41 PM	#9
Mr.Opinion All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2003 Location: SkiFree Lodge Posts: 883	The hidden player thingy is quite cool. Thanks for the new blog Markus and SI. __________________

12-13-2005, 04:12 PM	#14
kingcharlesxii Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,730	Very impressive stuff and I really like the hidden player feature, it sounds promising. __________________ OTBA - Stockholm Royal Squirrels of Sweden OOTP Grand League Champion 2015

12-13-2005, 02:14 PM	#7
Marc Duffy SI Marketing Wizard Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Old Street, London Posts: 4,741	Pre-ordering available : http://www.elicense.com/sigames/store

12-13-2005, 02:14 PM	#8
Boozie1580 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: MD Posts: 1,255	This is great news, awesome work Markus.

12-13-2005, 02:54 PM	#11
Marc Duffy SI Marketing Wizard Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Old Street, London Posts: 4,741	If the dealer gave as good a discount as I do, I'd be impressed

12-13-2005, 05:04 PM	#18
thomamon Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 5,274	Oh come on, the anticipation is fun! And if you keep telling yourself that, maybe you'll believe it. __________________ Thomas A. Montalto Please check out my Stupid Little Blog - http://www.stupidlittleblog.com

12-13-2005, 05:12 PM	#19
eriqjaffe Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Location: Under The Christmas Fish Posts: 7,644	If you want, I'd be happy to beta test OOTP:BM on my crappy old laptop. You know, for compatability and minimum requirements purposes. Nudge nudge! __________________

12-13-2005, 06:10 PM	#20
MrJones Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 84	Wow! This sounds great!