Beckett and Lowell for Blalock?

TotalEnd98 · 11-19-2005, 01:49 PM

http://www.palmbeachpost.com/marlins...lins_1119.html

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Originally Posted by Joe Capozzi

Pitcher Josh Beckett, the Most Valuable Player of the 2003 World Series, may soon be headed back to his home state of Texas next season along with third baseman Mike Lowell.

In what could be the first step of a major housecleaning in Florida, the Marlins and Rangers are close to completing a trade that would send Beckett and Lowell to Texas for third baseman Hank Blalock and a top pitching prospect, two baseball sources said Friday night.

But both sources said the deal could fall apart because the Rangers are reluctant to part with one of their coveted pitching prospects.

The Marlins are asking for either left-hander John Danks, Texas' first-round pick in 2003, or right-hander Thomas Diamond, the team's first-round pick in 2004.

molarmite · 11-19-2005, 01:57 PM

I don't know about this trade for the Rangers. Blalock > Lowell and prospect in 2 years > Beckett.

JWay · 11-19-2005, 01:57 PM

man.... my favorite player against me.. boooo

JWay · 11-19-2005, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by molarmite

I don't know about this trade for the Rangers. Blalock > Lowell and prospect in 2 years > Beckett.

Thats a huge assumption, How many sure-fire pitching prospects miss. Beckett put together a very good season last year and has good post season expierence. But yeah, Blalock is >> Lowell. So I don't know why Texas would do this.

darkhorse · 11-19-2005, 01:59 PM

Nah, don't see JD pulling the trigger on that deal.

TotalEnd98 · 11-19-2005, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by molarmite

I don't know about this trade for the Rangers. Blalock > Lowell and prospect in 2 years > Beckett.

Really? I mean, if I were in the Rangers' shoes, I would not be so quick to assume that either of those TINSTAAPPs would develop into a Josh Beckett.

darkhorse · 11-19-2005, 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JWay

But yeah, Blalock is >> Lowell. So I don't know why Texas would do this.

Probably because Blalock's hitting has regressed the last two years and was subpar last year. Blalock has never had a season as good as one of Lowell's best. The deal would be highway robbery if Lowell returned to form and Beckett kept improving.

molarmite · 11-19-2005, 02:05 PM

I mean if they're reluctant to do the trade ONLY because of the fear of the losing the prospect, he must be pretty good. I'm sure Beckett is going to be on the downfall now anyways.

JWay · 11-19-2005, 02:06 PM

If Lowell found his stroke it'd be a huge deal

JWay · 11-19-2005, 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by molarmite

I mean if they're reluctant to do the trade ONLY because of the fear of the losing the prospect, he must be pretty good. I'm sure Beckett is going to be on the downfall now anyways.

why?

darkhorse · 11-19-2005, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by molarmite

I'm sure Beckett is going to be on the downfall now anyways.

Why is that?

JWay · 11-19-2005, 02:08 PM

Danks went 4-10 with a 5.49 ERA in 18 games, 17 starts for Class AA Frisco, Texas. Diamond went 5-4 with a 5.35 ERA in 14 games for Frisco.

Hardly steller #'s there.... Not that they can't become something, but thats terrible.

TotalEnd98 · 11-19-2005, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

Probably because Blalock's hitting has regressed the last two years and was subpar last year.

Exactly. Blalock had something like a 600 OPS away from Arlington.

TotalEnd98 · 11-19-2005, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by molarmite

I mean if they're reluctant to do the trade ONLY because of the fear of the losing the prospect, he must be pretty good. I'm sure Beckett is going to be on the downfall now anyways.

Since he's only 25, I would venture to say he's probably between 2-4 years away from a downfall.

darkhorse · 11-19-2005, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JWay

Danks went 4-10 with a 5.49 ERA in 18 games, 17 starts for Class AA Frisco, Texas. Diamond went 5-4 with a 5.35 ERA in 14 games for Frisco.

Hardly steller #'s there.... Not that they can't become something, but thats terrible.

Danks was 20 years old. Those performances got the AA pitching coach fired, by the way.

boilermaker · 11-19-2005, 02:10 PM

Man, I don't know. I know we need starting pitchers, but I'm just kind of reluctant to break up that infield we have.

molarmite · 11-19-2005, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JWay

why?

Why not? If they are unwilling to trade him for Beckett then he must have some potential.

molarmite · 11-19-2005, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TotalEnd98

Since he's only 25, I would venture to say he's probably between 2-4 years away from a downfall.

Really? I thought he was around 28.

JWay · 11-19-2005, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TotalEnd98

Exactly. Blalock had something like a 600 OPS away from Arlington.

yikes i didn't even realize he was falling off like that, guess my intrest fell off when the Mariners stopped playing the 3rd week of April....

darkhorse · 11-19-2005, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by TotalEnd98

Since he's only 25, I would venture to say he's probably between 2-4 years away from a downfall.

Once again, what's the reasoning behind this.

11-19-2005, 01:59 PM	#5
darkhorse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: fort worth, tx Posts: 10,850	Nah, don't see JD pulling the trigger on that deal. __________________ "The Human Torch was denied a bank loan."

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molarmite Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 4,920	I don't know about this trade for the Rangers. Blalock > Lowell and prospect in 2 years > Beckett.

11-19-2005, 01:57 PM	#3
JWay Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,021	man.... my favorite player against me.. boooo

11-19-2005, 02:05 PM	#8
molarmite Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 4,920	I mean if they're reluctant to do the trade ONLY because of the fear of the losing the prospect, he must be pretty good. I'm sure Beckett is going to be on the downfall now anyways.

11-19-2005, 02:06 PM	#9
JWay Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,021	If Lowell found his stroke it'd be a huge deal

11-19-2005, 02:08 PM	#12
JWay Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Sioux Falls, SD Posts: 5,021	Danks went 4-10 with a 5.49 ERA in 18 games, 17 starts for Class AA Frisco, Texas. Diamond went 5-4 with a 5.35 ERA in 14 games for Frisco. Hardly steller #'s there.... Not that they can't become something, but thats terrible.

11-19-2005, 02:10 PM	#16
boilermaker All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,956	Man, I don't know. I know we need starting pitchers, but I'm just kind of reluctant to break up that infield we have.