Los Angeles Dodgers of Los Angeles 2005-06 Offseason Thread - Page 4

Hotblack Desiato · 11-15-2005, 04:39 PM

Well, it looks like it won't be Epstein or Ng. McCourt is going to dip into the Dodger glory and hire the Giants assistant GM. Nice PR move, Frank.

http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...adlines-sports

Who the hell IS this guy? What is he going to do for us? The Giants have been horribly run the past few seasons. Is this what we're in store for? So we fire Paul Depodesta on a whim with absolutely no contingency plans lined up and now we're going to hire some no-name assistant from our most hated rivals. Is it 2007 yet?

Skipaway · 11-15-2005, 04:44 PM

Why can't McCourt just hire his wife?

ifspuds · 11-15-2005, 04:45 PM

I think I'm going to be sick.

Hotblack Desiato · 11-15-2005, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipaway

Why can't McCourt just hire his wife?

She's already the president of the team.

Skipaway · 11-15-2005, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotblack Desiato

She's already the president of the team.

But not GM!

Heath909 · 11-15-2005, 05:37 PM

If a Dodger can manage the Giants (Baker, Craig) I guess a Giant can be the GM of the Dodgers. The Giants did enjoy some success playing baseball "The Dodger Way". I'm not sure its a problem to have a Giant (or any other team's GM) come over to the Dodgers. This guy is going to be hungry to run his own team after being the second banana somewhere else, no matter where that somewhere else was. The nbigger joke is the process up to this point, not the actual choice. Didn't the owner say he would be "aggressively" pursuing a replacement when he fired the last guy? Some aggresiveness!

The Great Demo · 11-16-2005, 03:11 AM

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11/16/2005 12:00 AM ET

Dodgers tab Colletti as new GM
Sabean's assistant leaves Giants, moves south

By Ken Gurnick / MLB.com

LOS ANGELES -- The Dodgers raided the front office of the archrival San Francisco Giants on Tuesday, hiring Ned Colletti as their general manager.

Colletti, 50, will be introduced at a press conference at Dodger Stadium on Wednesday morning.

Colletti had been vice president and assistant general manager to Brian Sabean for the past nine seasons. Granted broad authority by Sabean, Colletti's duties with the Giants have included assisting in the acquisition of players, overseeing waiver and rule compliance, formulating salary arbitration cases and managing roster payroll.

Prior to joining the Giants in 1994, Colletti worked 12 years for the Chicago Cubs, in the media relations and baseball operations departments. There he conducted contract negotiations, helped prepare salary arbitration cases and assisted in player acquisitions.

Colletti replaced Paul DePodesta, who at age 31 was hired shortly after Frank and Jamie McCourt purchased the club from News Corp. DePodesta, signed to a five-year contract on the eve of the 2004 season, was dismissed 2 1/2 weeks ago, three weeks after manager Jim Tracy exercised an escape clause in his contract, citing philosophical differences with the general manager.

DePodesta launched a search for a manager, interviewing five candidates, although farm director Terry Collins was known to be his first choice. McCourt interceded, interviewing former Dodger and Cy Young Award winner Orel Hershiser. Less than a week later, DePodesta was dismissed, and the manager search was shelved pending the hiring of a general manager.

At the press conference announcing DePodesta's dismissal, McCourt said that the traits he would look for in a general manager were leadership, a keen eye for baseball talent, communication skills and experience. Colletti, with 24 seasons in baseball, seems to fit the profile.

Although the Giants finished only four games ahead of the Dodgers in 2005, they have averaged 91 wins a year, dating back to 1997. San Francisco won the division in 1997, 2000 and 2003, and the National League pennant in 2002, losing to the Angels in the World Series.

If McCourt's interviewing of Hershiser is an indication of where the managerial search will lead, it should be noted that Hershiser pitched for the Giants in 1998, and Colletti worked on his contract. Another candidate interviewed by DePodesta was Ron Wotus, the bench coach for Colletti with the Giants.

Colletti also has a history with All-Star second baseman Jeff Kent, who met with ownership just before DePodesta's dismissal after telling teammates that he would request a trade if the club wasn't committed to winning immediately. Colletti was involved in the trade that sent Kent to the Giants from Cleveland in 1997.

Colletti inherits a team that went 71-91 in 2005, the second-worst record for a Dodger club since the team moved to Los Angeles from Brooklyn. The offense finished 15th of 16 in team average, the pitching 12th in team ERA. Injuries decimated the roster and resulted in operations for closer Eric Gagne, All-Star shortstop Cesar Izturis, and outfielders J.D. Drew and Jayson Werth.

Of immediate concern, Colletti must decide whether to pursue his free agents -- primarily Jeff Weaver, Olmedo Saenz, Elmer Dessens and Paul Bako -- as well as free agents from outside the organization. The removal from the payroll of Darren Dreifort, Shawn Green and, possibly, Weaver would free up money to acquire talent.

Internally, Colletti must decide who will fill the corner infield positions and what the future holds for center fielder Milton Bradley, among other issues.

Colletti will be the seventh person to fill the role of Dodgers general manager in the last eight years and the 10th in Los Angeles Dodgers history. A native of Chicago and graduate of Northern Illinois University, he has authored four books.

The Dodgers also considered for the job former Boston GM Theo Epstein, new Philadelphia GM Pat Gillick, former Texas GM John Hart and current Dodgers assistant GM Kim Ng. At last week's general managers meetings, the Dodgers were represented by Ng and Roy Smith, the vice president of scouting and player development.

Ken Gurnick is a reporter for MLB.com. This story was not subject to the approval of Major League Baseball or its clubs.

yup, its going to be great being a Braves fan next year.

swampdragon · 11-16-2005, 09:29 AM

Looks like Hershiser could very well be named manager. That will be interesting.

Joshv02 · 11-16-2005, 09:52 AM

I hope this means the Red Sox can hire Kim Ng.

darkhorse · 11-16-2005, 10:06 AM

As the Giants are LL's second favorite team, I'm sure this comes with a Legend Lock ringing endorsement.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!! !!!!!!!!1111111111

Karros270 · 11-16-2005, 12:11 PM

Hotblack Desiato · 11-16-2005, 12:19 PM

****ing ridiculous. I quit, man. **** the Dodgers as long as Frank McCourt is the owner.

darkhorse · 11-16-2005, 12:24 PM

I reckon we can stamp this move another Giant step toward oblivion for Dodgerdom. And to think, Tommy "I bleed Dodger blue" seems to be largely responsible for this horrifying turn of events.

Hotblack Desiato · 11-16-2005, 12:49 PM

I wouldn't say oblivion. It's more like New York in the late 80s. The Yankees sucked, the Mets were successful. The Dodgers aren't going anywhere and they'll always be LA's Yankees. They just managed to find a worse owner than George Steinbrenner.

darkhorse · 11-16-2005, 01:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotblack Desiato

They just managed to find a worse owner than George Steinbrenner.

The Yankees have won six World Series during the Steinbrenner era. There are lots of owners worse than him.

Hotblack Desiato · 11-16-2005, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

The Yankees have won six World Series during the Steinbrenner era. There are lots of owners worse than him.

I was still in the late 80s.

Karros270 · 11-16-2005, 01:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotblack Desiato

****ing ridiculous. I quit, man. **** the Dodgers as long as Frank McCourt is the owner.

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**** him! It kills me to watch what's happening to a once proud franchise. I don't see myself going to any Dodger games this season. I'm too pissed. If I want to see baseball I'll be going to Angel Stadium where I can see the Dodgers I grew up watching.

Hotblack Desiato · 11-16-2005, 01:54 PM

Is there an email address where you can send threatening letters?

gubaru · 11-16-2005, 02:12 PM

There's this. They have a number of categories but none of them was "Frank McCourt Is a Jackass" so I chose other, other. In a way, though, I almost want to congratulate McCourt. He's achieved the impossible and become a worse owner than Fox.

Regarding Colletti, I don't mind that he worked for the Giants in itself. I do disagree with the recent philosophy the Giants have been run under. That combined with the fact that Ng had the same set of responsibilities and qualifications pisses me off. The whole process has been a joke.

Karros270 · 11-16-2005, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotblack Desiato

I was still in the late 80s.

Oh how I wish it was still the late 80's!

11-15-2005, 04:44 PM	#62
Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	Why can't McCourt just hire his wife? __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

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ifspuds Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 2,117	I think I'm going to be sick. __________________ Jeff Watson Former dynasty writer and online league player, now mostly retired

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11-16-2005, 10:06 AM	#70
darkhorse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: fort worth, tx Posts: 10,850	As the Giants are LL's second favorite team, I'm sure this comes with a Legend Lock ringing endorsement. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah!!!!! !!!!!!!!1111111111 __________________ "The Human Torch was denied a bank loan."

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Karros270 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,392	__________________ now everybody's praying...don't prey on me

11-15-2005, 04:39 PM	#61
Hotblack Desiato Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 323	Well, it looks like it won't be Epstein or Ng. McCourt is going to dip into the Dodger glory and hire the Giants assistant GM. Nice PR move, Frank. http://www.latimes.com/sports/la-sp-...adlines-sports Who the hell IS this guy? What is he going to do for us? The Giants have been horribly run the past few seasons. Is this what we're in store for? So we fire Paul Depodesta on a whim with absolutely no contingency plans lined up and now we're going to hire some no-name assistant from our most hated rivals. Is it 2007 yet?

11-15-2005, 05:37 PM	#66
Heath909 Bat Boy Join Date: Nov 2005 Posts: 10	If a Dodger can manage the Giants (Baker, Craig) I guess a Giant can be the GM of the Dodgers. The Giants did enjoy some success playing baseball "The Dodger Way". I'm not sure its a problem to have a Giant (or any other team's GM) come over to the Dodgers. This guy is going to be hungry to run his own team after being the second banana somewhere else, no matter where that somewhere else was. The nbigger joke is the process up to this point, not the actual choice. Didn't the owner say he would be "aggressively" pursuing a replacement when he fired the last guy? Some aggresiveness!

11-16-2005, 09:29 AM	#68
swampdragon Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 2,509	Looks like Hershiser could very well be named manager. That will be interesting.

11-16-2005, 12:19 PM	#72
Hotblack Desiato Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 323	**ing ridiculous. I quit, man. ** the Dodgers as long as Frank McCourt is the owner.

11-16-2005, 12:24 PM	#73
darkhorse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: fort worth, tx Posts: 10,850	I reckon we can stamp this move another Giant step toward oblivion for Dodgerdom. And to think, Tommy "I bleed Dodger blue" seems to be largely responsible for this horrifying turn of events. __________________ "The Human Torch was denied a bank loan."

11-16-2005, 12:49 PM	#74
Hotblack Desiato Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 323	I wouldn't say oblivion. It's more like New York in the late 80s. The Yankees sucked, the Mets were successful. The Dodgers aren't going anywhere and they'll always be LA's Yankees. They just managed to find a worse owner than George Steinbrenner.

11-16-2005, 01:54 PM	#78
Hotblack Desiato Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 323	Is there an email address where you can send threatening letters?

11-16-2005, 02:12 PM	#79
gubaru Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Camp Hill, PA Posts: 326	There's this. They have a number of categories but none of them was "Frank McCourt Is a Jackass" so I chose other, other. In a way, though, I almost want to congratulate McCourt. He's achieved the impossible and become a worse owner than Fox. Regarding Colletti, I don't mind that he worked for the Giants in itself. I do disagree with the recent philosophy the Giants have been run under. That combined with the fact that Ng had the same set of responsibilities and qualifications pisses me off. The whole process has been a joke.