How do I create a new OOTP league from High Heat?

cincibuckeyenut · 11-19-2002, 03:44 PM

I have a High Heat baseball league that we currently run. I want to convert it to an OOTP league, but we really need to convert the players we have as they are today.

Does anyone know of a utility that would convert a High Heat 2001 game file to an OOTP league file for import? Or what is the format for importing into OOTP? Maybe I could build a utility to do that.

Scott Vibert · 11-19-2002, 03:52 PM

The format to import to OOTP is Lahman Style Database in .csv format.

I don't know of a utiltiy that does this for you.

Hope this helps.

cincibuckeyenut · 11-19-2002, 04:30 PM

I can do csv, no problem. What is Lahman Style Database?

Sorry for my ignorance.

Scott Vibert · 11-19-2002, 06:09 PM

If you download the Generic Version of the database from http://www.baseball1.com you'll be able to copy the Lahman Databases format, which is what has to be used by OOTP.

John C · 11-19-2002, 07:16 PM

Or, you can wait for the LINK.

Sorry, I decided to be evil and bring it up.

Peace
John

cincibuckeyenut · 11-19-2002, 11:15 PM

Do I dare ask?

ah, what the heck. I'm a newbie.

What is the LINK?

blubbla · 11-19-2002, 11:47 PM

somebody made the claim that they were going to make a utility to do exactly what you want to do .... convert HH to OOTP -- and called it the LINK.

It never materialized ... if it was ever intended to...

cincibuckeyenut · 11-20-2002, 09:09 AM

OK, donwloaded the lehman database. Damn, that is a lot of info. Pretty cool.

Now, I am trying to figure out how to meld that with two years worth of a HH simleague. Essentially what I have in high heat is something called vitals, which tells me the peak performance (LH and RH, BA, HR, K, etc. the normal stuff) of a player. I also have two years worth of stats I can use somehow, although I am not sure I need to. Any thoughts on how to best get this data into the database to make it convert to OOTP in a relatively reasonable facsimile?

The main thing I am thinking is that I need to get the vitals to match up as closely as possible with talents. But with all the various ages, I'm not sure how to do that with the Lehman database. I was thinking I could maybe make up stats for 20-30 years or something like that and put everyone's stats at 27 to be exactly their vitals and at every other year be a factor of vitals and age and maybe a random number of some sort (ie a players stats at 34 would be vitals*.60 (age factor) plus random factor (somewhere between 80-120% of vitals *age factor). Now I can do that, but is that gonna get me where I need to be if when I do the lehman import?

Or am I just completely misunderstanding how this works?

Scott Vibert · 11-20-2002, 10:02 AM

If I understand the data you have... then

I would enter all of the players past stats into the Lahman database. Also all of his vitals; (Age, Height Weight)

I would then add an entry for a season in the future, with the peak stats. (Or in the past for those older players) Try and pick a season around when you think the player would hit his peak for a 28 year old that might be the next season (or the past season); for a 19 year old it might be 9 years in the future, etc.

The current stats should set the ratings properly, while the peak would set the talents. Minor Leaguers will be a little tricky; unless you can think of a way to convert to major league equivalencies.. the peak should work to set the talents, but getting the current ratings right will be more difficult.

Just some random thoughts on my end.... maybe they'll be useful.

11-19-2002, 03:44 PM	#1
cincibuckeyenut Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6	How do I create a new OOTP league from High Heat? I have a High Heat baseball league that we currently run. I want to convert it to an OOTP league, but we really need to convert the players we have as they are today. Does anyone know of a utility that would convert a High Heat 2001 game file to an OOTP league file for import? Or what is the format for importing into OOTP? Maybe I could build a utility to do that.

11-19-2002, 07:16 PM	#5
John C Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Albion, RI Posts: 2,286 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	Or, you can wait for the LINK. Sorry, I decided to be evil and bring it up. Peace John __________________ Facebook \| My Videos

11-19-2002, 03:52 PM	#2
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,249	The format to import to OOTP is Lahman Style Database in .csv format. I don't know of a utiltiy that does this for you. Hope this helps.

11-19-2002, 04:30 PM	#3
cincibuckeyenut Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6	I can do csv, no problem. What is Lahman Style Database? Sorry for my ignorance.

11-19-2002, 06:09 PM	#4
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,249	If you download the Generic Version of the database from http://www.baseball1.com you'll be able to copy the Lahman Databases format, which is what has to be used by OOTP.

11-19-2002, 11:15 PM	#6
cincibuckeyenut Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6	Do I dare ask? ah, what the heck. I'm a newbie. What is the LINK?

11-19-2002, 11:47 PM	#7
blubbla Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Herscher, IL Posts: 2,460	somebody made the claim that they were going to make a utility to do exactly what you want to do .... convert HH to OOTP -- and called it the LINK. It never materialized ... if it was ever intended to...

11-20-2002, 09:09 AM	#8
cincibuckeyenut Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2002 Posts: 6	OK, donwloaded the lehman database. Damn, that is a lot of info. Pretty cool. Now, I am trying to figure out how to meld that with two years worth of a HH simleague. Essentially what I have in high heat is something called vitals, which tells me the peak performance (LH and RH, BA, HR, K, etc. the normal stuff) of a player. I also have two years worth of stats I can use somehow, although I am not sure I need to. Any thoughts on how to best get this data into the database to make it convert to OOTP in a relatively reasonable facsimile? The main thing I am thinking is that I need to get the vitals to match up as closely as possible with talents. But with all the various ages, I'm not sure how to do that with the Lehman database. I was thinking I could maybe make up stats for 20-30 years or something like that and put everyone's stats at 27 to be exactly their vitals and at every other year be a factor of vitals and age and maybe a random number of some sort (ie a players stats at 34 would be vitals.60 (age factor) plus random factor (somewhere between 80-120% of vitals age factor). Now I can do that, but is that gonna get me where I need to be if when I do the lehman import? Or am I just completely misunderstanding how this works?

11-20-2002, 10:02 AM	#9
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,249	If I understand the data you have... then I would enter all of the players past stats into the Lahman database. Also all of his vitals; (Age, Height Weight) I would then add an entry for a season in the future, with the peak stats. (Or in the past for those older players) Try and pick a season around when you think the player would hit his peak for a 28 year old that might be the next season (or the past season); for a 19 year old it might be 9 years in the future, etc. The current stats should set the ratings properly, while the peak would set the talents. Minor Leaguers will be a little tricky; unless you can think of a way to convert to major league equivalencies.. the peak should work to set the talents, but getting the current ratings right will be more difficult. Just some random thoughts on my end.... maybe they'll be useful.