stupidest career ending injury ever

moss2k · 04-15-2002, 01:51 PM

i just had superstar minor league pitcher go out with a career ending STIFF SHOULDER...you have got to be kidding me

has anyone else seen stupid crap like this?

Geiiga · 04-15-2002, 02:00 PM

JR Richards went out with a career ending numb fingers. So yeah, stranger things have happened.

Shorty · 04-15-2002, 02:40 PM

Numb fingers isnt all too shocking to end a career. My friend got the tips of his middle and ring finger smashed(bone crushed) lifting weights, someone dropped a weight on them, and he had to have reconstructive surgery on them, but he has no feeling in them. He plays baseball for the school team, and since it was only the tips, he can still play. But I could see how the WHOLE finger would be very hard to play with.

Jestre · 04-15-2002, 02:58 PM

Jeez, you guys ever hear of Three Finger Brown??? Course that was back when men were men... <gr>

Scott Vibert · 04-15-2002, 04:25 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Jestre:
Jeez, you guys ever hear of Three Finger Brown??? Course that was back when men were men... <gr><hr /></blockquote>and the sheep were scared... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

taffarel · 04-16-2002, 06:51 AM

How about the pitcher for the Yankees that only had one hand. I'm sure he threw a no-no. I think his name was Abbot, but I'm not a 100% on that.

VT Os fan · 04-16-2002, 07:34 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by taffarel:
How about the pitcher for the Yankees that only had one hand. I'm sure he threw a no-no. I think his name was Abbot, but I'm not a 100% on that.<hr /></blockquote>Was it Jim Abbot? I remember seeing him because it was a trip to watch him pitch. He held the glove under his handless arm, delivered the pitch, and then got the glove on his throwing hand before the ball reached the plate.

AIR he was on the opposing team when Ripkin broke the iron man record. After the game was official Cal (what a class act!) walked around the park waving to and shaking hands with all the fans. When he got to the opponent's dugout he started shanking their hands. There was an awkward moment when he got to Abbot, then they shared a grin and Cal moved on.

GR8Madmax · 04-16-2002, 09:06 AM

I always wondered how Jim Abbot would bat. He was not the greatest of pitchers but I was very impressed with him when he was with the White Sox.

henry296 · 04-16-2002, 09:22 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by GR8Madmax:
I always wondered how Jim Abbot would bat. He was not the greatest of pitchers but I was very impressed with him when he was with the White Sox.<hr /></blockquote>I think I recall him having a triple in an exhibition game once.

Todd

OOTPrulez · 04-16-2002, 10:39 AM

there was a college player that lost his arm, and could still swing for the fences, wasnt there a big story on espn, and i knew a kid that played that only had his right arm and they made him a special glove that he could throw with, it was a really small thing

joshuaaaaaa · 04-16-2002, 11:03 AM

Sure, sure...but none of those measure up to a stiff shoulder! Um, forget that part.

Personally, I think Jim Abbott should be in the HOF for what he accomplished given his handicap.

Falcon52 · 04-16-2002, 12:17 PM

Doesn't Antonio Alfonseca have 6 fingers on his pitching hand?

murrayyyyy · 04-16-2002, 12:17 PM

Abbott pitched for Milwaukee so I assumed he batted...evidentally he did, hit .095 in 1999 with 3 RBI's...

Batting Glossary

Year Ag Tm Lg G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG TB SH SF IBB HBP GDP
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
1999 31 MIL NL 18 21 0 2 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 10 .095 .095 .095 2 3 0 0 0 1
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
10 Seasons 261 21 0 2 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 10 .095 .095 .095 2 3 0 0 0 1
+--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+
162 Game Avg 13 0 1 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 6 .095 .095 .095 1 2 0 0 0 1
Career High 34 21 0 2 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 10 2 3 0 0 0 1

Special Batting Glossary

joshuaaaaaa · 04-16-2002, 12:25 PM

murrayyyyy, dude...Didja like that wind we got yesterday? Have you found new leauges since the abortive start of GBL?

Abbott was a decent hitter in college, if I remember. Like many pitchers, years in the AL robbed him of whatever hitting ability he once had.

Bobbuttons · 04-16-2002, 01:04 PM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by taffarel:
How about the pitcher for the Yankees that only had one hand. I'm sure he threw a no-no. I think his name was Abbot, but I'm not a 100% on that.<hr /></blockquote>Yes, indeed he did throw a no-no. Against my beloved Indians. Why must I remember such disappointing losses?

Jason Moyer · 04-17-2002, 03:16 AM

Damn. You know you're starting to get old when people barely remember a guy who was a superstar when you were in high school. =)

18-11 with a 2.89 ERA in 1991...with one arm. How can anyone ever top that?

To be a little on topic, he was only 23 and debuted with the Angels at 21. I think OOTP4 would be more realistic if the development curves allowed the occasional 21 year old one armed superstar pitcher. Markus?

Jason

Psicosis · 04-17-2002, 03:35 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by ScottVib:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Jestre:
Jeez, you guys ever hear of Three Finger Brown??? Course that was back when men were men... <gr><hr /></blockquote>and the sheep were scared... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>Ah, Scotland. Or West Virginia.

Jim Abbot was amazing to watch. He did so much, the fact that he only has one hand is incredible.

Erich Ingram · 04-17-2002, 06:18 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Geiiga:
JR Richards went out with a career ending numb fingers. So yeah, stranger things have happened.<hr /></blockquote>Yeah but that is not fair, JR Richard had a Stroke.

fluharty · 04-17-2002, 06:27 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Or West Virginia.<hr /></blockquote>Hey! No dissing wild, wonderful, West Virginia!

I had a guy go down with a career ending 'bone chips, shoulder'. Thought that was kinda unrealistic. But the stiff shoulder thing is worse.

[ 04-17-2002, 12:29 PM: Message edited by: fluharty ]

Psicosis · 04-17-2002, 06:50 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by fluharty:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Or West Virginia.<hr /></blockquote>Hey! No dissing wild, wonderful, West Virginia!

<hr /></blockquote>Heh, sorry. There are always exceptions to the rule. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

04-15-2002, 01:51 PM	#1
moss2k Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: charlotte Posts: 60	stupidest career ending injury ever i just had superstar minor league pitcher go out with a career ending STIFF SHOULDER...you have got to be kidding me has anyone else seen stupid crap like this?

04-15-2002, 02:00 PM	#2
Geiiga Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: USA Posts: 195	JR Richards went out with a career ending numb fingers. So yeah, stranger things have happened. __________________

04-15-2002, 02:40 PM	#3
Shorty All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 992	Numb fingers isnt all too shocking to end a career. My friend got the tips of his middle and ring finger smashed(bone crushed) lifting weights, someone dropped a weight on them, and he had to have reconstructive surgery on them, but he has no feeling in them. He plays baseball for the school team, and since it was only the tips, he can still play. But I could see how the WHOLE finger would be very hard to play with. __________________ Here we go Redlegs here we go!

04-15-2002, 02:58 PM	#4
Jestre All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: North Smithfield,Ri,USA Posts: 612	Jeez, you guys ever hear of Three Finger Brown??? Course that was back when men were men... <gr> __________________ My eyes perceive the present, but my roots are imbedded deeply in the grandeur of the past. "Chief Meyers"

04-15-2002, 04:25 PM	#5
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,266	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Jestre: <strong>Jeez, you guys ever hear of Three Finger Brown??? Course that was back when men were men... <gr></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">and the sheep were scared... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />

04-16-2002, 06:51 AM	#6
taffarel Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Edinburgh, Scotland Posts: 26	How about the pitcher for the Yankees that only had one hand. I'm sure he threw a no-no. I think his name was Abbot, but I'm not a 100% on that.

04-16-2002, 07:34 AM	#7
VT Os fan Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Virginia Tech (Blacksburg, Virginia) Posts: 226	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by taffarel: <strong>How about the pitcher for the Yankees that only had one hand. I'm sure he threw a no-no. I think his name was Abbot, but I'm not a 100% on that.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Was it Jim Abbot? I remember seeing him because it was a trip to watch him pitch. He held the glove under his handless arm, delivered the pitch, and then got the glove on his throwing hand before the ball reached the plate. AIR he was on the opposing team when Ripkin broke the iron man record. After the game was official Cal (what a class act!) walked around the park waving to and shaking hands with all the fans. When he got to the opponent's dugout he started shanking their hands. There was an awkward moment when he got to Abbot, then they shared a grin and Cal moved on. __________________ "The smallest minority on earth is the individual. Those who deny individual rights cannot claim to be defenders of minorities." -- Ayn Rand

04-16-2002, 09:06 AM	#8
GR8Madmax Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 94	I always wondered how Jim Abbot would bat. He was not the greatest of pitchers but I was very impressed with him when he was with the White Sox.

04-16-2002, 09:22 AM	#9
henry296 All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Baltimore, MD Posts: 514	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by GR8Madmax: <strong>I always wondered how Jim Abbot would bat. He was not the greatest of pitchers but I was very impressed with him when he was with the White Sox.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I think I recall him having a triple in an exhibition game once. Todd

04-16-2002, 10:39 AM	#10
OOTPrulez Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Pennyslvania Posts: 15	there was a college player that lost his arm, and could still swing for the fences, wasnt there a big story on espn, and i knew a kid that played that only had his right arm and they made him a special glove that he could throw with, it was a really small thing

04-16-2002, 11:03 AM	#11
joshuaaaaaa All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 633	Sure, sure...but none of those measure up to a stiff shoulder! Um, forget that part. Personally, I think Jim Abbott should be in the HOF for what he accomplished given his handicap. __________________ Baltimore Monarchs-GUBA Baltimore Orioles-ORB2 "One of the greatest discoveries a man makes, one of his great surprises, is to find he can do what he was afraid he couldn't do." ~Henry Ford ~

04-16-2002, 12:17 PM	#12
Falcon52 All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 615	Doesn't Antonio Alfonseca have 6 fingers on his pitching hand? __________________ "D-FENCE! D-FENCE!"

04-16-2002, 12:17 PM	#13
murrayyyyy Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: LV, NV Posts: 56	Abbott pitched for Milwaukee so I assumed he batted...evidentally he did, hit .095 in 1999 with 3 RBI's... Batting Glossary Year Ag Tm Lg G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI SB CS BB SO BA OBP SLG TB SH SF IBB HBP GDP +--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+ 1999 31 MIL NL 18 21 0 2 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 10 .095 .095 .095 2 3 0 0 0 1 +--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+ 10 Seasons 261 21 0 2 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 10 .095 .095 .095 2 3 0 0 0 1 +--------------+---+----+----+----+---+--+---+----+---+--+---+---+-----+-----+-----+----+---+---+---+---+---+ 162 Game Avg 13 0 1 0 0 0 2 0 0 0 6 .095 .095 .095 1 2 0 0 0 1 Career High 34 21 0 2 0 0 0 3 0 0 0 10 2 3 0 0 0 1 Special Batting Glossary

04-16-2002, 12:25 PM	#14
joshuaaaaaa All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Las Vegas, NV Posts: 633	murrayyyyy, dude...Didja like that wind we got yesterday? Have you found new leauges since the abortive start of GBL? Abbott was a decent hitter in college, if I remember. Like many pitchers, years in the AL robbed him of whatever hitting ability he once had. __________________ Baltimore Monarchs-GUBA Baltimore Orioles-ORB2 "One of the greatest discoveries a man makes, one of his great surprises, is to find he can do what he was afraid he couldn't do." ~Henry Ford ~

04-16-2002, 01:04 PM	#15
Bobbuttons Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Picturesque Mentor-on-the-Lake, Ohio Posts: 3,708	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by taffarel: <strong>How about the pitcher for the Yankees that only had one hand. I'm sure he threw a no-no. I think his name was Abbot, but I'm not a 100% on that.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yes, indeed he did throw a no-no. Against my beloved Indians. Why must I remember such disappointing losses? __________________ Frankenstein never scared me. Marsupials do....cause they're fast! Gibson swings, and a fly ball to deep right field! This is gonna be a home run! Unbelievable! A home run for Gibson! And the Dodgers have won the game, 5 to 4; I don't believe what I just saw! I don't believe what I just saw!

04-17-2002, 03:16 AM	#16
Jason Moyer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,111	Damn. You know you're starting to get old when people barely remember a guy who was a superstar when you were in high school. =) 18-11 with a 2.89 ERA in 1991...with one arm. How can anyone ever top that? To be a little on topic, he was only 23 and debuted with the Angels at 21. I think OOTP4 would be more realistic if the development curves allowed the occasional 21 year old one armed superstar pitcher. Markus? Jason __________________ "I pretty much popped everything cold turkey. We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses." -- Tom House "I was very fortunate to have a pitching coach by the name of Tom House...Tom, I really miss those days that we spent in the weight room and out on the field working together." -- Nolan Ryan's HoF Induction Speech

04-17-2002, 03:35 AM	#17
Psicosis Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 228	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ScottVib: <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Jestre: <strong>Jeez, you guys ever hear of Three Finger Brown??? Course that was back when men were men... <gr></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">and the sheep were scared... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Ah, Scotland. Or West Virginia. Jim Abbot was amazing to watch. He did so much, the fact that he only has one hand is incredible.

04-17-2002, 06:18 AM	#18
Erich Ingram Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,217	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Geiiga: <strong>JR Richards went out with a career ending numb fingers. So yeah, stranger things have happened.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Yeah but that is not fair, JR Richard had a Stroke. __________________ Erich Ingram (Rolen17) IOSBL San Diego Aztecs 2010, 2012,2013, 2014 World Series Champions Maelstrom Padres 2026 World Champions eMLB Washington Nationals

04-17-2002, 06:27 AM	#19
fluharty All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Morgantown, WV Posts: 1,023	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Or West Virginia.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hey! No dissing wild, wonderful, West Virginia! I had a guy go down with a career ending 'bone chips, shoulder'. Thought that was kinda unrealistic. But the stiff shoulder thing is worse. <small>[ 04-17-2002, 12:29 PM: Message edited by: fluharty ]</small>

04-17-2002, 06:50 AM	#20
Psicosis Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 228	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by fluharty: <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Or West Virginia.</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Hey! No dissing wild, wonderful, West Virginia! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Heh, sorry. There are always exceptions to the rule. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="wink.gif" />