6.5B and cato ok?

[endgame]

Originally Posted by Maximus

In the meantime, I will use Larrys utility. But like you said endgame, I still need to check to see if a player retires and then if it the case I just need to replace the r with a p? Is that it? Larrys utility will do everything else, right?

Read through those links or posts again if you have any trouble refreshing your memory. But again, the utility will take care of the r / p exchange, and the mid season retirement isn't the potential problem. If you find a player who retired mid season and that's the end of the story, that's the end of your concern. You can leave him alone. IF however he retired mid-season AND signed on with another team, you need to put that release line in right before he signed with the new team so that ALL of his stats carry forward split between the teams and not just his new team.

The OFF option just shuts off comebacks, it doesn't really address re-signings. That's the thrust of BruceM's post and what Markus really needs to fix: the retirees should NOT be put into the FA pool and subjected to the possibility of resigning.

Hope that makes it a little clearer.

[Maximus]

Yup, I didn't understand about %50 of the problem. Now I completely understand. Thank you once again. You've been a huge help.

I will start my new league I think. I will just have to do the 20-30 mins of work. Oh well.

Thanks.

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by Maximus

I mean, when you give someone the option to turn off something and that option is still turned on even though you have it OFF that really sucks.

I'd just like to point out here that there is no option in the game to turn off players retiring. This continues to happen, and should.

There is an option to disable players from coming back from retirement, and this also works correctly.

The problem is when players retire mid season, they are going to the FA pool.

What should happen, if a player retires mid season (or at anytime during the season) he should go on the retired list and stay there until the season is over. Then, if he so decides during the off season that he wants to give it another shot, that's fine. He announces he's coming back from retirement. If the option for players to comeback is turned off then it shouldn't happen.

What really gets me the most about it is, a player retires and signs with another team mid season? No way he should be able to sign with another team, I still own his rights since his contract with me did not expire mid season.

[endgame]

Originally Posted by BruceM

I'd just like to point out here that there is no option in the game to turn off players retiring. This continues to happen, and should.

There is an option to disable players from coming back from retirement, and this also works correctly.

The problem is when players retire mid season, they are going to the FA pool.

What should happen, if a player retires mid season (or at anytime during the season) he should go on the retired list and stay there until the season is over. Then, if he so decides during the off season that he wants to give it another shot, that's fine. He announces he's coming back from retirement. If the option for players to comeback is turned off then it shouldn't happen.

What really gets me the most about it is, a player retires and signs with another team mid season? No way he should be able to sign with another team, I still own his rights since his contract with me did not expire mid season.

Amen, amen, amen..... we'll just keep saying it again, again, and again.

[Comedian2004]

If someone can send me a lalltrans.txt file with a resigning in it, I can fix it.

Here is what I will do. It replaces as before and adds the blank lines as needed. But when it finds a SO and SO retires... line, it will pull the guys name out and search the rest of the document for 'SO and SO resigns (or whatever the wording is, that is why I need a copy). and then put in the proper release line where it goes.

Then, all you will have to do is copy the original somewhere and rename the existing one. (I might even have it copy the original somewhere and rename it for you.)

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by Comedian2004

If someone can send me a lalltrans.txt file with a resigning in it, I can fix it.

Here is what I will do. It replaces as before and adds the blank lines as needed. But when it finds a SO and SO retires... line, it will pull the guys name out and search the rest of the document for 'SO and SO resigns (or whatever the wording is, that is why I need a copy). and then put in the proper release line where it goes.

Then, all you will have to do is copy the original somewhere and rename the existing one. (I might even have it copy the original somewhere and rename it for you.)

You are very generous. Thank you. I would send you a file but I am at work right now and cannot access it. I hope someone will send on.

One question, if you do this - when copying the original file somewhere and renaming the exsisting one, what do we do with the one that was copied? Do we then send it back to the .lg file?
Thanks again.

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by BruceM

I'd just like to point out here that there is no option in the game to turn off players retiring. This continues to happen, and should.

There is an option to disable players from coming back from retirement, and this also works correctly.

The problem is when players retire mid season, they are going to the FA pool.

What should happen, if a player retires mid season (or at anytime during the season) he should go on the retired list and stay there until the season is over. Then, if he so decides during the off season that he wants to give it another shot, that's fine. He announces he's coming back from retirement. If the option for players to comeback is turned off then it shouldn't happen.

What really gets me the most about it is, a player retires and signs with another team mid season? No way he should be able to sign with another team, I still own his rights since his contract with me did not expire mid season.

Ahh gottcha. Ok, thanks for clearing that up.

[Comedian2004]

The original one is just saved 'just in case'. If things screw up, then at least you can copy it back to the .lg boxscore folder and try again.

I will more and likely just send it to the desktop.

If all works as planned, then you just trash the original.

You can send me the file at larry@cfl.rr.com (You may want to zip it up)

Originally Posted by Maximus

You are very generous. Thank you. I would send you a file but I am at work right now and cannot access it. I hope someone will send on.

One question, if you do this - when copying the original file somewhere and renaming the exsisting one, what do we do with the one that was copied? Do we then send it back to the .lg file?
Thanks again.

[ragnaar15]

I've run Catofix, renamed the lalltrans2 file to lalltrans and also replaced ltrans with it, but I'm still getting error messages.

I get a "Trade.Player cannot be a zero length string" during import, and none of the players are being imported. Teams appear to be importing correctly. This is during the first year of a new league.

[Maximus]

Originally Posted by ragnaar15

I've run Catofix, renamed the lalltrans2 file to lalltrans and also replaced ltrans with it, but I'm still getting error messages.

I get a "Trade.Player cannot be a zero length string" during import, and none of the players are being imported. Teams appear to be importing correctly. This is during the first year of a new league.

Did you send a file to Larry at his email? This might help him a lot to fix the problem.

[Maximus]

Can someone send him a file (lalltrans)that shows this error because for some reason I am not getting a retiring player. I simmed 40 seasons BUT it is in HTML format not notepad.

[ragnaar15]

Originally Posted by Maximus

Can someone send him a file (lalltrans)that shows this error because for some reason I am not getting a retiring player. I simmed 40 seasons BUT it is in HTML format not notepad.

I have no idea whether this is a cato error or one caused by me. I'm finding the program's instructions less than helpful when it comes to what exactly the league directory is, what the data directory is, and how the c:/leaguesite folder fits in. Apparently the data directory is the folder where the .csv files are located, but there are no .csv files contained within my league directory If the data directory is supposed to be where the league .dat files are, then that would be the league directory as well.

This is all less than intuitive...

[Maximus]

I hear ya. This is starting to really suck. If Markus would just fix this then there would be no issues at all. I understand that he is NOT obligated to do anything to help out 3rd party programs but in 6.0 & 6.12 these issues weren't there. The fact is, like it or not, a lot of people play OOTP because of CATO. Puresim will be implementing such a feature (baseballreference.com type feature) in PS2006 as Shaun already stated.

At least release a small fix/patch or patch that solves this issue. Then release the other patch (the one with more bug fixes, ect found in 6.5b) on it's est time.

end of rant.

[cephasjames]

Originally Posted by Comedian2004

Catofix is still available.

www.sim2005.com/catofix.zip

Unzip the exe file into the .lg/LEAGUE_NEWS_BOX folder.

Run it and it will create a file called lalltrans2.txt, leaving the originally untouched.

Move the original out of that folder and rename this one.

"The application failed to initialize (0xc0000135). Click on OK to terminate the application"

That's what I get when I try to run CatoFix. Any help?

[SandMan]

Originally Posted by ragnaar15

I've run Catofix, renamed the lalltrans2 file to lalltrans and also replaced ltrans with it, but I'm still getting error messages.

I get a "Trade.Player cannot be a zero length string" during import, and none of the players are being imported. Teams appear to be importing correctly. This is during the first year of a new league.

This happens when there is a blank line inserted in the trade transaction. I had this happen when I accidently inserted the hard return before the name of the first player traded..... Just go into wordpad and do a find on all trade transactions and you will find it quickly.

[Comedian2004]

OK, I am awaiting someone to send me a sample file with a player retiring and coming back and when i get that, I will fix it.

I will also remove all the blank lines before the trades also.

So, NO BLANK LINE before each trade?

[cephasjames]

I've read and read and read and I still can't get this thing to work. I've downloaded v5,v6,v6.1.4 and installed them in that order. Installation was fine. I played a season to its end and did not push the "proceed to next season" button. I started a new database just like the CatoBase ReadMe says to do. I read around and found out about the whole changing lalltrans.txt from the LEAGUE_NEWS_BOX folder to ltrans.txt (correct?). I changed the =r to =p, within the new ltrans.txt, since CatoBase has issues with that (correct?). I then put the league.html from the almanac into the new database's data folder (correct?). As far as I know those are the changes that need to be made.

I push the "Import Stats" button and after a short bit the "type mismatch" error pops up (I though changing the =r to =p was supposed to fix this ). I press OK and it proceeds importing stats without any issues.

I push the "Create HTML Pages" button and immediately this pops up:

"Error 94: invalid use of Null has occurred."

I press OK and move on. It processes all the players then:

"Error 3021: Either BOF or EOF is True, or the current record has been deleted. Requested operation requires a current recor. has occurred."

I press OK.

"Error 55: File already open has occurred."

I press OK.
Error 55 pops up again 7 more times. Then error 3021 comes up again. Then error 55 comes up 11 times. Then

"Error 3265: Item cannot be found in the collection corresponding to the requested name or ordinal. has occurred."

pops up 3 times. Then back to Error 55 for 7 times. Then it finishes.

I go to the website folder to check out the html pages and it's all messed up. All I can really see are the players and their ages are messed up (as in guys are -1984 years old and so on) because the year is 0.

I can see that CatoBase is awesome when one can get it working, but man is this way too frustrating to deal with. Can someone please help? I have OOTP 6.5 btw. Thanks.

[endgame]

First of all, with Cato it's best not to proceed further once you receive an error message. The first error usually compounds the following errors, meaning that they occur as a result of the first. In my early experience with Cato, coming to terms with the first hurdle generally meant encountering few, if any, subsequent problems. Now, to your problem. Yes, the type mismatch has been reportedly linked to the r / p exchange. But there may be another issue. I'll do some looking on my own, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone more knowledgeable had an answer before I find any further information. In the meantime, it would behoove you to manually open what is now your ltrans.txt, set your cursor to the beginning of the file and do a Find r= or =r, whichever it is - honestly I can't remember right now, and make sure one or more of the incidents was not overlooked. If so, make the change/s.

[cephasjames]

Originally Posted by endgame

First of all, with Cato it's best not to proceed further once you receive an error message. The first error usually compounds the following errors, meaning that they occur as a result of the first. In my early experience with Cato, coming to terms with the first hurdle generally meant encountering few, if any, subsequent problems. Now, to your problem. Yes, the type mismatch has been reportedly linked to the r / p exchange. But there may be another issue. I'll do some looking on my own, but it wouldn't surprise me if someone more knowledgeable had an answer before I find any further information. In the meantime, it would behoove you to manually open what is now your ltrans.txt, set your cursor to the beginning of the file and do a Find r= or =r, whichever it is - honestly I can't remember right now, and make sure one or more of the incidents was not overlooked. If so, make the change/s.

Thanks, endgame. I kind of figured that the errors would compound but I went forward just to see what would happen. I'll try changing the =r to =p in the original ltrans.txt just to see if that works.

[ragnaar15]

Anyone have success with Cato using the new 6.5b update today? I'm setting up my default leagues and will try to run them through this afternoon.