roster question

Regan · 02-15-2002, 08:45 AM

Hi,
A question for anyone that can help. I have always had a desire that the salary details were as in real life, and was told in an earlier post that was not going to be in OOTP4.
However, the developer dropped in to franchise baseball and mentioned that the overall payrolls were accurate but that individual salaries topped out at around 10-12 million. Bearing that in mind, here is my question.
If the overall payrolls are right, does this mean that people can build the real salaries into their real roster patches, without affecting the financial operation of the game?
I am fairly sure I will buy this game because a genuine effort has been made to listen to concerns about the previous versions. If this extra element of reality could be built in with the roster patches it would make it even better.

Steve Kuffrey · 02-15-2002, 08:51 AM

You mean making a player w/ a 20-someodd million dollar salary and have the game work ok? I have not tried it personally but I doubt that it would do too much to it except that your team would run out of $$ faster unless you are in a huge market and raise ticket prices alot. After a few years if he is still under contract you probably won't be able to sign any FA for a year or so, but eventually you would recover.

Scott Vibert · 02-15-2002, 09:15 AM

Roster patches have been released in the past with accurate contracts. However, I'm not sure what effect this has when you try to offer extensions or sign free agents who are coming off of $20 million dollar contracts. Keep in mind though that if you dump all players into an initial draft pool the game will recalculate the contracts.

Killebrew · 02-15-2002, 09:42 AM

[quote]Originally posted by ScottVib:
Roster patches have been released in the past with accurate contracts. However, I'm not sure what effect this has when you try to offer extensions or sign free agents who are coming off of $20 million dollar contracts. <hr></blockquote>

Once the edited 20 million dollar contract guys need an extension the player $$$ demands revert back to the OOTP limits of below 15 million. The edited contract rosters are still very useful if an online league developes their own contract extension and FA system - I know the S3BL did this and probably many other leagues have as well.

Scott Vibert · 02-15-2002, 09:51 AM

[quote]Originally posted by Killebrew:


Once the edited 20 million dollar contract guys need an extension the player $$$ demands revert back to the OOTP limits of below 15 million. The edited contract rosters are still very useful if an online league developes their own contract extension and FA system - I know the S3BL did this and probably many other leagues have as well.<hr></blockquote>

That's kind of what I thought Killer, thanks.

AngelinOF · 02-15-2002, 12:25 PM

Hmm strange a while back while using KOD roster set once A-Rod's contract had ran out the Rangers signed him at an extension of $28 million per year for 4 years. I remember checking what he was asking and he was asking for 4 million more than his base salary (was making 25 was asking for 29). I ran a couple of tests and if he signed an extension then he wanted more money then he was currently making but if the Rangers didn't sign him then he was signing in the 15-17 million range if he was a free agent. I just always figured that when signing an extension if a player was in his prime then they expected an increase in salary.

Killebrew · 02-15-2002, 01:03 PM

[quote]Originally posted by AngelinOF:
Hmm strange a while back while using KOD roster set once A-Rod's contract had ran out the Rangers signed him at an extension of $28 million per year for 4 years. I remember checking what he was asking and he was asking for 4 million more than his base salary (was making 25 was asking for 29). I ran a couple of tests and if he signed an extension then he wanted more money then he was currently making but if the Rangers didn't sign him then he was signing in the 15-17 million range if he was a free agent. I just always figured that when signing an extension if a player was in his prime then they expected an increase in salary.<hr></blockquote>

I tried this again and I am able to get players that make 25 mil a year refuse to sign extensions for less than 20 mil so AngelinOF you are definately onto something. It does not look like they always require an increase in salary but demands over the games usual 15 mil will occur during the contract extension process.

02-15-2002, 08:45 AM	#1
Regan Bat Boy Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Northern Ireland Posts: 5	roster question Hi, A question for anyone that can help. I have always had a desire that the salary details were as in real life, and was told in an earlier post that was not going to be in OOTP4. However, the developer dropped in to franchise baseball and mentioned that the overall payrolls were accurate but that individual salaries topped out at around 10-12 million. Bearing that in mind, here is my question. If the overall payrolls are right, does this mean that people can build the real salaries into their real roster patches, without affecting the financial operation of the game? I am fairly sure I will buy this game because a genuine effort has been made to listen to concerns about the previous versions. If this extra element of reality could be built in with the roster patches it would make it even better.

02-15-2002, 08:51 AM	#2
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	You mean making a player w/ a 20-someodd million dollar salary and have the game work ok? I have not tried it personally but I doubt that it would do too much to it except that your team would run out of $$ faster unless you are in a huge market and raise ticket prices alot. After a few years if he is still under contract you probably won't be able to sign any FA for a year or so, but eventually you would recover. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

02-15-2002, 09:42 AM	#4
Killebrew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,326	[quote]Originally posted by ScottVib: <strong>Roster patches have been released in the past with accurate contracts. However, I'm not sure what effect this has when you try to offer extensions or sign free agents who are coming off of $20 million dollar contracts. </strong><hr></blockquote> Once the edited 20 million dollar contract guys need an extension the player $$$ demands revert back to the OOTP limits of below 15 million. The edited contract rosters are still very useful if an online league developes their own contract extension and FA system - I know the S3BL did this and probably many other leagues have as well. __________________ FOBL Capital City Metropolitans CDL Minnesota Twins

02-15-2002, 09:51 AM	#5
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,266	[quote]Originally posted by Killebrew: <strong> Once the edited 20 million dollar contract guys need an extension the player $$$ demands revert back to the OOTP limits of below 15 million. The edited contract rosters are still very useful if an online league developes their own contract extension and FA system - I know the S3BL did this and probably many other leagues have as well.</strong><hr></blockquote> That's kind of what I thought Killer, thanks.

02-15-2002, 01:03 PM	#7
Killebrew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,326	[quote]Originally posted by AngelinOF: <strong>Hmm strange a while back while using KOD roster set once A-Rod's contract had ran out the Rangers signed him at an extension of $28 million per year for 4 years. I remember checking what he was asking and he was asking for 4 million more than his base salary (was making 25 was asking for 29). I ran a couple of tests and if he signed an extension then he wanted more money then he was currently making but if the Rangers didn't sign him then he was signing in the 15-17 million range if he was a free agent. I just always figured that when signing an extension if a player was in his prime then they expected an increase in salary.</strong><hr></blockquote> I tried this again and I am able to get players that make 25 mil a year refuse to sign extensions for less than 20 mil so AngelinOF you are definately onto something. It does not look like they always require an increase in salary but demands over the games usual 15 mil will occur during the contract extension process. __________________ FOBL Capital City Metropolitans CDL Minnesota Twins

02-15-2002, 09:15 AM	#3
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,266	Roster patches have been released in the past with accurate contracts. However, I'm not sure what effect this has when you try to offer extensions or sign free agents who are coming off of $20 million dollar contracts. Keep in mind though that if you dump all players into an initial draft pool the game will recalculate the contracts.

02-15-2002, 12:25 PM	#6
AngelinOF All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,353	Hmm strange a while back while using KOD roster set once A-Rod's contract had ran out the Rangers signed him at an extension of $28 million per year for 4 years. I remember checking what he was asking and he was asking for 4 million more than his base salary (was making 25 was asking for 29). I ran a couple of tests and if he signed an extension then he wanted more money then he was currently making but if the Rangers didn't sign him then he was signing in the 15-17 million range if he was a free agent. I just always figured that when signing an extension if a player was in his prime then they expected an increase in salary.