Let's be honest about 6.5

[Johnny99]

Originally Posted by jeheinz72

I personally would've paid $10 for just the milestones, projected leaders and toggle stats. But that's just me.

I would have, too.

[kingcharlesxii]

I am very happy. The only feature that really disappoints me is the unretire. If it causes problems with Catobase I'd rather not use it.

The manager tendency lock, player popularity and team focus seem to work well and are easily worth $10 to me.

[t-bone shuffle]

I don't know about anyone else, but it seems to me that the AI for the computer run teams is greatly improved. I added 6.5 to a league that was at about the 1st of June and immediately the crazy, for example, free agent signing followed by immediate release, stopped. That's worth ten bucks every damned day.

The greatest thing about this game is that it allows you to be as intricate or as simple as you wish. Certainly there are things that annoy me as well, but it destroys any "competition".

[mh2365]

I had quit play OOTP, with version 6.5 I'm back at it.

[Elendil]

I have to say it's worth $10. The improved AI is very significant. In addition to all the other significant improvements already mentioned, there are nice little "nuggets" of new value everywhere. For example, when you trade for or sign a minor league player, that player now goes to the level of the minors for which he is ready! Being able to toggle L/R/Total stats in your lineup screens is neat. The Major Transactions button on the League News screen is useful. Having talent ratings on the front of the player card saves me a lot of time because I play with performance ratings off and am always checking talents. Overall, I'm pretty happy with it, although I haven't seen some of the bugs people are talking about having to do with unretirement and benching superstars. The one thing I would like to see fixed is ltrans.txt for Catobase purposes.

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by treedom

I play that way too and I was a bit dissapointed that it was a financials only feature, since, when you play with financials off, there are certainly still trades that this feature could apply to. Oh well, not that big a deal.

Team focus works for non financials league too.

first goto a team roster
then if you click on the dollar sign on bottom right side it will open the front office screen and you can see the team focus for that team.


very odd that your able to see the team front office screen with financial off. i think the dollar sign on bottom right should not be there for non financial league. you can see team payroll, salary, attendance, revenue, expense,ticket price, team focus, etc on it.

team front office should totally be disabled when having financial disabled. but its not on ootp 6 and ootp 6.5

[MizzouRah]

Originally Posted by Faroo6

My experience with the Team Focus has been everything its cracked up to be. Teams that go to rebuilding usually trade good veterans to win now teams for specs.

Shop player is definitely my favorite new function of the added ones. I use this all the time when a player irritates me. Shop him and see if he's worth dumping or it I should just wait it out.

I agree 100%.

6.5 is far from perfect, but it is improved in several areas - and that's all I really wanted.. one last final march until v7 comes out.

[Matt Uk]

It's an improvement over the previous one in my opinion, and a nice interim version to be playing while waiting for v7 to come out. As fro the price, $10, are you kidding? That's about £6, can't even get two gallons of petrol here for that!

[treedom]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

Team focus works for non financials league too.

first goto a team roster
then if you click on the dollar sign on bottom right side it will open the front office screen and you can see the team focus for that team.


very odd that your able to see the team front office screen with financial off. i think the dollar sign on bottom right should not be there for non financial league. you can see team payroll, salary, attendance, revenue, expense,ticket price, team focus, etc on it.

team front office should totally be disabled when having financial disabled. but its not on ootp 6 and ootp 6.5

Hmm, so you can get in to that screen, but I wonder if the values actually change and are taken into consideration by the AI.

[treedom]

dola-

Originally Posted by jbmagic

team front office should totally be disabled when having financial disabled. but its not on ootp 6 and ootp 6.5

This reminds me...one of my big pet peeves was when this was done. I know people were crying about it, but frankly I don't see what the big deal was that the "Front Office" menu option was there when you were playing with financials off.

The thing is, I still found the financial history button in there useful because it gave me a nice straightforward report of the team's W/L record and divisional ranking through the years, which you can't find anywhere else. So it was a bit annoying when this "feature" was put in.

But it's good to know you can get in again now (I just never use those buttons on the bottom, that's why I never noticed. )

I hope this isn't "fixed" now too.

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by treedom

Hmm, so you can get in to that screen, but I wonder if the values actually change and are taken into consideration by the AI.

yep check back during the month of July.

you will see some teams change from balance

[treedom]

Originally Posted by jbmagic

yep check back during the month of July.

you will see some teams change from balance

Okay that's cool then!

Kinda weird that it's so "hidden" when playing with financials off. I asumed that since it was on that screen, it was off when financials were off.

[jarmenia]

I really like the Milestone Watch feature...

It would have been even better if it showed you players getting close to career and season records as well. I care more about those than a guy hitting his 200th home run.

[jarmenia]

Originally Posted by BigCity

I do think, however, that there is a thin line between voicing concerns (which is good) and expressing those concerns in a way that then looks insulting (I got ripped off, the game/upgrade isn't worth it, or even your "I think certain features were added for padding").

Why is it we can't state what we are concerned about and would like to see fixed, without making it a personal vendetta against OOTPD?

How is saying "I think certain features were added for padding" a personal vendetta against OOTPD? Its a an opinion that very well may be correct.

Originally Posted by BigCity

So, what's wrong with that approach? If a customer didn't want to buy it, they weren't forced to (and I don't want to get into online league requirements because what they choose to do is NOT OOTPD's or SI's responsibility). A list of features was provided, most of which worked as advertised, some which were disappointments - nothing out of the ordinary here. In addition, Markus has already said there will be another patch at some point, so he's shown (as he always does) that he is willing to try and resolve any outstanding issues.

I agree

Originally Posted by BigCity

I find myself always posting in response to these threads, not because I think complaints should not be posted, but because too many posts carry a concern into an attack of some sort - blaming OOTPD for being a business, and somehow conniving its customers into paying for something. It's this last point that finds me constantly asking why this is necessary?

Because BC, if I said I'll paint your house. Paint half, you you pay me for it, and I don't paint the rest would you be upset? When Markus says he will implement a feature, its assumed, perhaps wrongly, that it will be well designed and well tested. When it is not, it can feel like having only half your house painted. Now I will give Markus credit, usually the house ends up painted, but its well after we've had to show him all the spots he's missed.

Wow, that analogy went further than I thought it would

[LeiterFanatic]

agree with the positive 6.5 comments but the low save totals suck. In my fictional league, the most saves were 35 for a 2005 based year. Im sorry, but workarounds dont cut it. Thats what the CL designation is for....

[Ktulu]

For example, when you trade for or sign a minor league player, that player now goes to the level of the minors for which he is ready!

See, I find this annoying. I want all players I acquire to go somewhere so that I can assign players where I want. I don't want to have to hunt through my minors looking for my draft picks or signed players. FPS baseball had a nice little box that was called "inactive players" or something like that, which was perfect.

[SoxWin]

Originally Posted by Ktulu

See, I find this annoying. I want all players I acquire to go somewhere so that I can assign players where I want. I don't want to have to hunt through my minors looking for my draft picks or signed players. FPS baseball had a nice little box that was called "inactive players" or something like that, which was perfect.

I don't know if you've posted this in the forum for OOTP7 suggestions but you should. I really like the idea.

[treedom]

It's a good idea, but if we have any more little boxes on that transaction screen I'm gonna need a magnifying glass.

[Davey Eckstein]

I like it. Not much more I can say.

*shrug*

[Ktulu]

I don't know if you've posted this in the forum for OOTP7 suggestions but you should. I really like the idea.

Already been done in threads like this one. It looked like the dfa box was going to cover everything, but with each patch it seems the "limbo area" concept gets lessened.