2005 Astros

Astros33Resurrected · 06-03-2005, 01:11 AM

Will they rebound and end up around .500? Or go down into the crapper.

randomlefty10 · 06-03-2005, 01:21 AM

crapper. They have no offense to rebound.

swampdragon · 06-03-2005, 01:22 AM

The offense looks terminal. I guess when Berkman gets his rhythm they could inch back towards respectability. Third place in the division and about 75-80 wins is the ceiling, I'm afraid.

rdklein · 06-03-2005, 01:25 AM

Are they not already in the crapper?

It's rebuilding time. Clemens has already expressed interest in the Rangers and I say move him if you can. We desperately need young bats and the Rangers have a few to spare.

It's that 18 million dollars that's going to be the problem, i think.

Astros33Resurrected · 06-03-2005, 01:29 AM

Clearly, the offense is struggling. Berkman hit a homer last game and will eventually get his stroke back. Ensberg needs to show the power everyone once though he had. Anyone remember the days when we had too many good hitter? Alou, Everett, Hidalgo, Berkman, Ward, Abreu,Beltran all have come through the stros OF in recent years. In the late 90's i remember we had Alou, Everett and Hidalgo with a young Berkman coming up along with Ward... I miss those days

Prior81 · 06-03-2005, 10:06 AM

They made Chan Ho Park look like a Cy Young candidate. The only way they win is if their starter goes 7 IP, 2 ER or less.

edrooney · 06-03-2005, 10:19 AM

I say crapper. Their aging offense isn't doing anything, and if they lose Clemens, they'll only have Pettite (is he fit or injured?) and Oswalt to really count upon in the rotation.

nate7891 · 06-03-2005, 10:44 AM

ill say they will hoover a couple games under .500

sooner · 06-03-2005, 10:55 AM

The only way Clemens ends up in Arlington is if the Rangers are throwing out names like Blalock or Texeira........Drayton remembers the fallout after Nolan Ryan headed north and doesn't want to be mentioned in the same breath as John McMullen.

Astros33Resurrected · 07-04-2005, 03:21 PM

Let's go Astros!

Astros02 · 07-04-2005, 03:27 PM

The Astros are on fire right now. Maybe wild card contenders.

CMH · 07-04-2005, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by nate7891

ill say they will hoover a couple games under .500

Is .500 the new Hoover Vacuum prototype or something? That's gotta be some powerful vacuum to suck that many wins into such a lifeless team.

darkhorse · 07-04-2005, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by YankeePride

That's gotta be some powerful vacuum to suck that many wins into such a lifeless team.

They do have two of the top five starting pitchers in the NL. That Lidge fella isn't too awful either.

Astros33Resurrected · 07-04-2005, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by YankeePride

Is .500 the new Hoover Vacuum prototype or something? That's gotta be some powerful vacuum to suck that many wins into such a lifeless team.

Well- Ensberg, Berkman, Lane isn't too bad. And Biggio is starting to heat it up a ltitle. Oswalt, Clemens, Pettite is one of the best 1-3 staff in the league. Lidge can shut the door very well. I see no reason why they won't get to .500

Astros33Resurrected · 07-05-2005, 11:43 PM

21-7 in their last 28. 2 games below .500 and only like 4 or 5 games out of the wildcard. Let's go stros!

eswan9 · 07-06-2005, 12:23 AM

Well with the cubs doing a nosedive, the door is wide open in the Central

Astros33Resurrected · 07-06-2005, 12:31 AM

maybe the WC is open , but the cards got the central on lock.

eswan9 · 07-06-2005, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Astros33Resurrected

maybe the WC is open , but the cards got the central on lock.

My bad

. Meant to say WC door.

nate7891 · 07-06-2005, 12:32 PM

'stros are 6 back for the wildcard

CMH · 07-06-2005, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

They do have two of the top five starting pitchers in the NL. That Lidge fella isn't too awful either.

From what I understand, pitching and defense isn't their biggest problem.

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Originally Posted by Astros33Resurrected

Well- Ensberg, Berkman, Lane isn't too bad. And Biggio is starting to heat it up a ltitle.

I agree that those guys are very good players, but you still have to wonder if they are enough. I'm not going to say straight out that Biggio and Bagwell are getting old and they'll decline, but you still have to think about it.

As for Berkman, lets hope he remains healthy. He's a great player when he plays full-time, but he still needs to hold up.

I really like Ensberg. Lane just needs to work on hitting for contact along with power. Players like him tend to not keep that sort of production up for a long time in their careers and he's already 28.

06-03-2005, 01:11 AM	#1
Astros33Resurrected Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lufkin, TX Posts: 2,213	2005 Astros Will they rebound and end up around .500? Or go down into the crapper.

06-03-2005, 10:19 AM	#7
edrooney All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bristol, UK Posts: 688 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	I say crapper. Their aging offense isn't doing anything, and if they lose Clemens, they'll only have Pettite (is he fit or injured?) and Oswalt to really count upon in the rotation. __________________ I'm as mad as hell, and I'm not going to take it anymore.

06-03-2005, 10:44 AM	#8
nate7891 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 553	ill say they will hoover a couple games under .500 __________________ Keeping idiots in suspense. "If they blew up Wrigley tomorrow, it wouldn't bother me at all. That ivy is nasty, the infield grass is waist high, and they definitely have the most vulgar fans." -- Houston Astros outfielder Lance Berkman. Easiest job in Sports: Third Base Coach Job Requirements: Depth perception, and ability to do “the windmill”.

07-06-2005, 12:23 AM	#16
eswan9 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 195	Well with the cubs doing a nosedive, the door is wide open in the Central __________________ The Cubs Curse lives!! Long Live the Curse "Chicago baseball fans, who are composites of scar tissue and mortifying memories..." - George F. Will Last World Series Championship: White Sox - 2005 Cubs - 1908 ... And then there was one EVERLASTING curse...

07-06-2005, 12:32 PM	#19
nate7891 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 553	'stros are 6 back for the wildcard __________________ Keeping idiots in suspense. "If they blew up Wrigley tomorrow, it wouldn't bother me at all. That ivy is nasty, the infield grass is waist high, and they definitely have the most vulgar fans." -- Houston Astros outfielder Lance Berkman. Easiest job in Sports: Third Base Coach Job Requirements: Depth perception, and ability to do “the windmill”.

06-03-2005, 01:21 AM	#2
randomlefty10 All Star Starter Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 1,438	crapper. They have no offense to rebound.

06-03-2005, 01:22 AM	#3
swampdragon Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 2,506	The offense looks terminal. I guess when Berkman gets his rhythm they could inch back towards respectability. Third place in the division and about 75-80 wins is the ceiling, I'm afraid.

06-03-2005, 01:25 AM	#4
rdklein All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: The other side. Posts: 773	Are they not already in the crapper? It's rebuilding time. Clemens has already expressed interest in the Rangers and I say move him if you can. We desperately need young bats and the Rangers have a few to spare. It's that 18 million dollars that's going to be the problem, i think.

06-03-2005, 01:29 AM	#5
Astros33Resurrected Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lufkin, TX Posts: 2,213	Clearly, the offense is struggling. Berkman hit a homer last game and will eventually get his stroke back. Ensberg needs to show the power everyone once though he had. Anyone remember the days when we had too many good hitter? Alou, Everett, Hidalgo, Berkman, Ward, Abreu,Beltran all have come through the stros OF in recent years. In the late 90's i remember we had Alou, Everett and Hidalgo with a young Berkman coming up along with Ward... I miss those days

06-03-2005, 10:06 AM	#6
Prior81 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 302	They made Chan Ho Park look like a Cy Young candidate. The only way they win is if their starter goes 7 IP, 2 ER or less.

06-03-2005, 10:55 AM	#9
sooner Bat Boy Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 6	The only way Clemens ends up in Arlington is if the Rangers are throwing out names like Blalock or Texeira........Drayton remembers the fallout after Nolan Ryan headed north and doesn't want to be mentioned in the same breath as John McMullen.

07-04-2005, 03:21 PM	#10
Astros33Resurrected Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lufkin, TX Posts: 2,213	Let's go Astros!

07-04-2005, 03:27 PM	#11
Astros02 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Houston Posts: 506	The Astros are on fire right now. Maybe wild card contenders.

07-05-2005, 11:43 PM	#15
Astros33Resurrected Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lufkin, TX Posts: 2,213	21-7 in their last 28. 2 games below .500 and only like 4 or 5 games out of the wildcard. Let's go stros!

07-06-2005, 12:31 AM	#17
Astros33Resurrected Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Lufkin, TX Posts: 2,213	maybe the WC is open , but the cards got the central on lock.