saves

scarface · 07-02-2005, 09:20 PM

i've noticed that for awhile now in solo leagues i've been playin on 6.5 i havent seen many saves. In a solo league i'm playing now i'm about 5 seasons into it & i still havent seen a closer get 35 saves in a season, there was one yr when in the AL the guy with the most saves had 23. I know us fans have been lucky to see closers the last few yrs get big numbers of saves like Gagne or Smoltz but 23 saves in a season leading the league is way to low.

how could i change the game to at least get people getting higher save amounts (i would like to see 1 guy get 40 saves in a yr)

Dan Theman · 07-02-2005, 09:54 PM

What era setting do you currently have?

jarmenia · 07-02-2005, 09:56 PM

I'm playing with modern settings and have seen a high of 55 saves.

scarface · 07-03-2005, 05:03 AM

i'm using modern settings, i dont kno if the roster patch i got changed some stuff to give me some odd stats. like i said bout the saves i also have seen a good amount of complete games, i have Ben Sheets on my team and during the last season had 16 complete games.

I thought that was odd because on my team strategy page i had set my pull SP to more to the quick side than slow. On the part about modern baseball the pitcher endurance is set at good, should i try lower that?

Dan Theman · 07-03-2005, 09:42 AM

Yes, I'd change it to "fair" and make sure that Use Relievers is set at "very often." That should start racking up the saves for you.

Steve Kuffrey · 07-03-2005, 10:35 AM

Default settings, ficitional league, after 10 seasons here are the records:

DH league - 39
Non-DH league - 52

I wonder if using the DH is altering this too much?

Dan Theman · 07-03-2005, 10:44 AM

Well, I run an all-DH league that's been around for many moons and I've got 47 & 50 for the save records. However, it would be interesting to see if there is some sort of correlation between DH and non-DH leagues. It would make some logical sense if there is a small difference.

scarface · 07-04-2005, 01:36 AM

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Yes, I'd change it to "fair" and make sure that Use Relievers is set at "very often." That should start racking up the saves for you.

alright i did this, my first yr i did not see much of a improvement, with league leaders at 34 saves for the NL & 29 saves for the AL. Year 2 had a big improvement with save leaders in the NL at 53 & the AL at 42. Hopefully it stays something like yr 2.

rwd59 · 07-06-2005, 05:53 PM

I too am having a problem with saves since V6.5. My team had 43 saves for the season. Unfortunately my closer only got 14 and my setup man got 17. As a matter of fact my closer only pitched 21 innings all season in 30 games. However; I am playing the mid to late 70's right now before the big time use of the closer. Maybe there were some adjustments made to make saves more reflective of the era. In previous versions I would get 40-50 saves in the 60's and 70's.

Cardinal Rule · 07-06-2005, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by rwd59

I too am having a problem with saves since V6.5. My team had 43 saves for the season. Unfortunately my closer only got 14 and my setup man got 17. As a matter of fact my closer only pitched 21 innings all season in 30 games. However; I am playing the mid to late 70's right now before the big time use of the closer. Maybe there were some adjustments made to make saves more reflective of the era. In previous versions I would get 40-50 saves in the 60's and 70's.

How did other teams in the league compare?

Also, just curious and you've probably already checked, but your closer wasn't injured at all, was he? Only other think I can think is if he was perpetually tired - his endurance isn't like 0 or 1 or something is it?

Comedian2004 · 07-06-2005, 06:08 PM

Could it be related to no closers in the farm system? Most teams have a 'closer' when you start a new season (historical or fiction), but there are no closers down in the farm. I think they computer is just sticking players in the closing spot, that are usually not good choices.

Comedian2004 · 07-06-2005, 06:11 PM

In my 1901 simulation, all computer controlled. It is 1965 and the most saves in the NL is from 1958, a grand total of 30!

The AL record is 25.

VERY LOW!!

I have changed the ERA to match the current year and have not changed any team settings on using pitchers, etc. All computer controlled.

statfreak · 07-07-2005, 02:51 AM

I'd just like to say that I am very happy with the low save totals. They perfectly reflect what I want to see.

rwd59 · 07-07-2005, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cardinal Rule

How did other teams in the league compare?

Also, just curious and you've probably already checked, but your closer wasn't injured at all, was he? Only other think I can think is if he was perpetually tired - his endurance isn't like 0 or 1 or something is it?

He is a 49 out of 100 endurance. The high in the AL (which I am in) was 22 by a ptcher whose team had 44 total saves. In the NL the leader had 33 of the teams 40 saves. No injuries at all.

07-02-2005, 09:20 PM	#1
scarface Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 36	saves i've noticed that for awhile now in solo leagues i've been playin on 6.5 i havent seen many saves. In a solo league i'm playing now i'm about 5 seasons into it & i still havent seen a closer get 35 saves in a season, there was one yr when in the AL the guy with the most saves had 23. I know us fans have been lucky to see closers the last few yrs get big numbers of saves like Gagne or Smoltz but 23 saves in a season leading the league is way to low. how could i change the game to at least get people getting higher save amounts (i would like to see 1 guy get 40 saves in a yr)

07-02-2005, 09:56 PM	#3
jarmenia Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa, FL USA Posts: 4,503	I'm playing with modern settings and have seen a high of 55 saves. Last edited by jarmenia; 07-03-2005 at 09:53 AM.

07-03-2005, 10:35 AM	#6
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,023	Default settings, ficitional league, after 10 seasons here are the records: DH league - 39 Non-DH league - 52 I wonder if using the DH is altering this too much? __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

07-06-2005, 06:08 PM	#11
Comedian2004 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: In a house in Saint Cloud, Florida. Posts: 7,085	Could it be related to no closers in the farm system? Most teams have a 'closer' when you start a new season (historical or fiction), but there are no closers down in the farm. I think they computer is just sticking players in the closing spot, that are usually not good choices. __________________ Like BLUES? Visit www.smokestacklightnin.com, you will LOVE it! New show every Monday!! New Blues HOF![/COLOR][/FONT]

07-06-2005, 06:11 PM	#12
Comedian2004 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: In a house in Saint Cloud, Florida. Posts: 7,085	In my 1901 simulation, all computer controlled. It is 1965 and the most saves in the NL is from 1958, a grand total of 30! The AL record is 25. VERY LOW!! I have changed the ERA to match the current year and have not changed any team settings on using pitchers, etc. All computer controlled. __________________ Like BLUES? Visit www.smokestacklightnin.com, you will LOVE it! New show every Monday!! New Blues HOF![/COLOR][/FONT]

07-03-2005, 05:03 AM	#4
scarface Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 36	i'm using modern settings, i dont kno if the roster patch i got changed some stuff to give me some odd stats. like i said bout the saves i also have seen a good amount of complete games, i have Ben Sheets on my team and during the last season had 16 complete games. I thought that was odd because on my team strategy page i had set my pull SP to more to the quick side than slow. On the part about modern baseball the pitcher endurance is set at good, should i try lower that?

07-06-2005, 05:53 PM	#9
rwd59 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: LA (Lower Alabama) Posts: 933	I too am having a problem with saves since V6.5. My team had 43 saves for the season. Unfortunately my closer only got 14 and my setup man got 17. As a matter of fact my closer only pitched 21 innings all season in 30 games. However; I am playing the mid to late 70's right now before the big time use of the closer. Maybe there were some adjustments made to make saves more reflective of the era. In previous versions I would get 40-50 saves in the 60's and 70's.

07-07-2005, 02:51 AM	#13
statfreak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 2,434	I'd just like to say that I am very happy with the low save totals. They perfectly reflect what I want to see. __________________ Roll out the barrel!