VOTE: Time Warp HOF Ballot 1958 - Page 2

Dagrims · 06-29-2005, 09:18 PM

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Originally Posted by rogmax11

I did note that Mr. Hung was Asian; I neglected to insert a smilie to deflect angst, relying on the light-hearted tone of my post to convey amusement. My bad.

Toto, you're not in OT anymore.

m0ng00se · 06-29-2005, 10:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rogmax11

I did note that Mr. Hung was Asian; I neglected to insert a smilie to deflect angst, relying on the light-hearted tone of my post to convey amusement. My bad.

LOL, yea I've also been a bit thick in the head today, so my bad as well. And I'm certainly not the most politically correct person on this planet.

And on the name thing... I remember one time in Taekwondo that I had a very angry asian sparring against me as I had, evidently, pronounced his name incorrectly earlier that evening. He didn't correct me at the time, but he sure tried to correct it later with an overly enthusiastic butterfly kick to my head. Sometimes people take things too personal even if the percieve slight against their name was completely unintentional.

Now nicknames... those I think are totally fair game.

OK, now back to HOF discussion...

pat · 06-29-2005, 10:16 PM

Schwarz
Kinnear
Arkless
Davie
Mickelsen
Breckenridge
Crocitto
Wright
Liao
Skjerly

haggis007 · 06-30-2005, 02:53 AM

Arkless
Breckenridge
Davie
Crocitto
Hung
Liao
Mickelsen
Misisca
Skjerly
Wright

BPS · 06-30-2005, 03:59 AM

Breckenridge
Crocitto
Liao
Skjerly
Wright
Stuart
Mickelsen
Davie
Kinnear
Hung

Matt from TN · 06-30-2005, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jdw

I'm a little surprised by Wright not being on some ballots. I'm not sure what more a player needs to do.

He was 29-31 when off to the war. That was right when his power started to kick in, and it along with the deadening of the ball prior to leaving cut his dingers down to "just" 251.

Matt's off on his championship teams. It was:

1934 NL Champ Dodgers
1935 NL Champ Dodgers
1939 World Champ Dodgers
1940 NL Champ Dodgers
1949 World Champ Phils

Pennants: 5
WS Victories: 2

His post season "appearances" are reduced because of:

Injured on 9/24/1935 with a Strained Groin Muscle, out for one week

Injured on 9/22/1949 with a Torn Abdominal Muscle, out for 4-5 weeks

But he got both of those injuries after playing full seasons, helping his team with the pennant, but right before the Series.

I'll correct this. But I can't see why a 1 week injury would've kept him out of the 1935 WS... he was BOY that year! Stupid AI.

fhomess · 06-30-2005, 01:06 PM

SS Blake "Hitman" Crocitto
RF Jonathan "White Rhino" Wright
LF Dewey Mickelsen
3B Troy Kinnear
C Leonard "Sunny" Davie
CF Bud Breckenridge

Matt from TN · 06-30-2005, 01:33 PM

Already at 19 votes... Thanks for the quick response. I may go ahead & end it before the holiday weekend.

Matt from TN · 07-01-2005, 09:02 AM

Minzey
Kinnear
Arkless
Breckenridge
Schukraft
Bowden
Martin
Hung
Crocitto
Wright

This was easy... remove Ditty & Booth from last year's vote and add in Crocitto & Wright.

I will close this vote today.

Matt from TN · 07-01-2005, 11:46 AM

I don't like ending with an even 20 votes because I don't like the rounded off percentages. However, I am leaving soon and want to announce the results:

Four new inductees including 2 first-timers and two other worthy candidates who've waited a while to get in.

Code:


Blake Crocitto	100.00%
Bud Breckenridge 85.00%
Jon Wright	 85.00%
Alan Liao	 75.00%
Sunny Davie	 65.00%
Troy Kinnear	 65.00%
Ping Hung	 60.00%
Ervin Skjerly	 50.00%
Jon Minzey	 45.00%
Dave Arkless	 45.00%
Terry Schukraft	 45.00%
Mark Ponfick	 40.00%
Dewey Mickelsen	 30.00%
Willard Schwarz	 25.00%
Bobby Martin	 25.00%
Ricardo Bowden	 20.00%
Mo Misisca	 15.00%
Al Arsenault	 10.00%
Harry Finley	 10.00%
Ted Stuart	 10.00%

Willard Schwarz falls off the ballot & will go to the VC next season.

The following players fell off the ballot for failing to get 5% of the votes. Their year they become eligible for the VC is in parentheis:

Tequila Allen (1973)
Andy Martineau (1971)
Cy Helbig (1974)
Schoolboy Emberling (1972)
Bob Bussmann (1972)
Chris Frays (1974)

ifspuds · 07-01-2005, 11:56 AM

BUD!

There is rejoicing in Pittsburgh today.

jdw · 07-01-2005, 08:07 PM

Maybe should have left it open for the holiday weekend as people come by. The season is in "pause" for the holiday anyway. Though it probably would only have affected Liao, since Sunny and Troy were 2 votes before the cut line and they would have need 8 more people to vote *and* make all 8 ballots.

I always liked Liao. I'm at a loss at him getting in before Dewy. Did anyone ever thinking that Liao was better than Dewy? I'm starting to think that there are rumors going around that Dewy was a Communist or something.

Brady: maybe you should have Dewy throws his hands up and pull a Cosby on this - ask that his name get removed from the balloting. That's better than falling to 30% behind someone "nice" like Liao.

John

canadiancreed · 07-01-2005, 08:28 PM

sad to see schoolboy go

good to see Liao in

haggis007 · 07-07-2005, 09:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jdw

I always liked Liao. I'm at a loss at him getting in before Dewy. Did anyone ever thinking that Liao was better than Dewy? I'm starting to think that there are rumors going around that Dewy was a Communist or something.

Brady: maybe you should have Dewy throws his hands up and pull a Cosby on this - ask that his name get removed from the balloting. That's better than falling to 30% behind someone "nice" like Liao.

John

Don't ask me, John. I don't get it. Even the communists get in before Mr. Cub of TWB!

For the record, Dewey couldn't even spell Communist.

canadiancreed · 07-07-2005, 09:38 PM

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I always liked Liao. I'm at a loss at him getting in before Dewy. Did anyone ever thinking that Liao was better than Dewy? I'm starting to think that there are rumors going around that Dewy was a Communist or something.

well he did play for the Reds post WWII

06-29-2005, 10:16 PM	#23
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06-30-2005, 01:33 PM	#28
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	Already at 19 votes... Thanks for the quick response. I may go ahead & end it before the holiday weekend. __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise

07-01-2005, 09:02 AM	#29
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	Minzey Kinnear Arkless Breckenridge Schukraft Bowden Martin Hung Crocitto Wright This was easy... remove Ditty & Booth from last year's vote and add in Crocitto & Wright. I will close this vote today. __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise

07-01-2005, 11:46 AM	#30
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	I don't like ending with an even 20 votes because I don't like the rounded off percentages. However, I am leaving soon and want to announce the results: Four new inductees including 2 first-timers and two other worthy candidates who've waited a while to get in. Code: Blake Crocitto 100.00% Bud Breckenridge 85.00% Jon Wright 85.00% Alan Liao 75.00% Sunny Davie 65.00% Troy Kinnear 65.00% Ping Hung 60.00% Ervin Skjerly 50.00% Jon Minzey 45.00% Dave Arkless 45.00% Terry Schukraft 45.00% Mark Ponfick 40.00% Dewey Mickelsen 30.00% Willard Schwarz 25.00% Bobby Martin 25.00% Ricardo Bowden 20.00% Mo Misisca 15.00% Al Arsenault 10.00% Harry Finley 10.00% Ted Stuart 10.00% Willard Schwarz falls off the ballot & will go to the VC next season. The following players fell off the ballot for failing to get 5% of the votes. Their year they become eligible for the VC is in parentheis: Tequila Allen (1973) Andy Martineau (1971) Cy Helbig (1974) Schoolboy Emberling (1972) Bob Bussmann (1972) Chris Frays (1974) __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise

07-01-2005, 11:56 AM	#31
ifspuds Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Spokane WA Posts: 2,117	BUD! There is rejoicing in Pittsburgh today. __________________ Jeff Watson Former dynasty writer and online league player, now mostly retired

06-30-2005, 02:53 AM	#24
haggis007 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 115	Arkless Breckenridge Davie Crocitto Hung Liao Mickelsen Misisca Skjerly Wright

06-30-2005, 03:59 AM	#25
BPS All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 717	Breckenridge Crocitto Liao Skjerly Wright Stuart Mickelsen Davie Kinnear Hung

06-30-2005, 01:06 PM	#27
fhomess Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,649	SS Blake "Hitman" Crocitto RF Jonathan "White Rhino" Wright LF Dewey Mickelsen 3B Troy Kinnear C Leonard "Sunny" Davie CF Bud Breckenridge

07-01-2005, 08:07 PM	#32
jdw All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 1,161	Maybe should have left it open for the holiday weekend as people come by. The season is in "pause" for the holiday anyway. Though it probably would only have affected Liao, since Sunny and Troy were 2 votes before the cut line and they would have need 8 more people to vote and make all 8 ballots. I always liked Liao. I'm at a loss at him getting in before Dewy. Did anyone ever thinking that Liao was better than Dewy? I'm starting to think that there are rumors going around that Dewy was a Communist or something. Brady: maybe you should have Dewy throws his hands up and pull a Cosby on this - ask that his name get removed from the balloting. That's better than falling to 30% behind someone "nice" like Liao. John

07-01-2005, 08:28 PM	#33
canadiancreed Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 11,660	sad to see schoolboy go good to see Liao in __________________ PT21 PT22