Missing Games?

[LAH]

I have been playing a career league started with guam's 1903 replay season. I have been importing rookies from Ankits with no problems and have been importing historical MLB schedules from a thread stickied in the mod forum.

However, I noticed that after I simmed the last season, 1910, all of the teams played only 129 or 128 games instead of 154.

Any idea whats going on?

For example, here is the NY Giants team history since 1903. Notice the number of games in 1910:

Year 	W 	L 	WPct 	Finish 	Games Back 	Division 	LCS 	WS 	Avg 	ERA 	Manager
1903 	62 	78 	.443 	7 	22 	- 	- 	- 	.248 	3.60 	John McGraw
1904 	79 	75 	.513 	5 	12.5 	- 	- 	- 	.261 	3.66 	John McGraw
1905 	74 	66 	.529 	4 	20 	- 	- 	- 	.266 	3.66 	John McGraw
1906 	71 	83 	.461 	6 	28 	- 	- 	- 	.263 	4.69 	John McGraw
1907 	78 	76 	.506 	5 	7 	- 	- 	- 	.244 	3.13 	John McGraw
1908 	94 	60 	.610 	1 	0 	- 	- 	5-3 	.251 	2.64 	John McGraw
1909 	90 	64 	.584 	1 	0 	- 	- 	1-5 	.266 	2.86 	John McGraw
1910 	86 	43 	.667 	1 	0 	- 	- 	0-5 	.259 	2.77 	John McGraw
Totals 	634 	545 	.538 	  	- 	- 	6-13 	.257 	3.38

[jm47048]

I would double check your schedule generation. Are you simming these games or are you playing them out? It sounds to be like you have a bad schedule.

[Vris]

Are you starting/ending the schedule on the right date? LGO provides a readme with the correct dates for these so you might want to check your 1910 schedule for this.

[gmo]

That attached info is apparently copied from CatoBase. Do these results match up with what the game has recorded? It is possible that for some reason the game worked just fine but that there was an issue involving the CSV files that CatoBase uses.

[LAH]

Originally Posted by Vris

Are you starting/ending the schedule on the right date? LGO provides a readme with the correct dates for these so you might want to check your 1910 schedule for this.

The first date games are played are on April 14th and I start the season at April 1. There are no games between April 1 and April 13.

[LAH]

Originally Posted by jm47048

I would double check your schedule generation. Are you simming these games or are you playing them out? It sounds to be like you have a bad schedule.

It is not a schedule generation, I just import an .CSV file which I got from a stickied thread in the mod forum.

[LAH]

Originally Posted by gmo

That attached info is apparently copied from CatoBase. Do these results match up with what the game has recorded? It is possible that for some reason the game worked just fine but that there was an issue involving the CSV files that CatoBase uses.

The records for the Giants in 1910 is the same in Catobase and in the game.

I assume the others are the same as well.

[LAH]

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=85752

This is where I was getting the schedule's from.

I was thinking maybe it was a problem with double headers, but I am not sure. Don't have the time to go through the schedule day by day...

[jbmagic]

Originally Posted by LAH

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ad.php?t=85752

This is where I was getting the schedule's from.

I was thinking maybe it was a problem with double headers, but I am not sure. Don't have the time to go through the schedule day by day...

be sure to follow the readme on it..

it tells you what start date you have to do in the edit schedule in the game after you import.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by LAH

I was thinking maybe it was a problem with double headers, but I am not sure.

I wouldn't think so. At that time doubleheaders, in the original schedule, were mostly limited to the three main holidays (Memorial Day, Independence Day, and Labor Day). Each club had on its schedule 3-6 doubleheaders.

That ~129 games is an awful lot like the number of games in the 1918 shortened schedule. Maybe you accidentally imported the wrong schedule? The year in the schedule CSV file means nothing to OOTP; the game strictly goes by day number. The year value is solely derived from the game itself. That means you could take the schedule from any year with the same number of teams and import it.

Take a look at when the last games were played in the league. What was the date?

[gmo]

Originally Posted by LAH

I was thinking maybe it was a problem with double headers, but I am not sure. Don't have the time to go through the schedule day by day...

I would doubt doubleheaders would be at the root of it because doubleheaders are not all that frequent in that time period in those historical schedules (no team played more than 6 doubleheaders in 1910).

Could you look at the 1910 schedule_game.csv file in the CatoBase data folder? There should be games from day #104 to #288. Except toward the end of the season, games should be quite regular I believe. You should be able to page down or scroll very rapidly and see where in that .csv file in the far left-hand column there is any kind of gap with missing games. It could be scattered games missing, but a block seems more likely.

EDIT - Yeah, do what LGO says.

[Le Grande Orange]

I just checked the zip file for 1910 in the Historical Schedules thread and it is indeed for 1910. So the file posted in that thread is okay.

[LAH]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

That ~129 games is an awful lot like the number of games in the 1918 shortened schedule. Maybe you accidentally imported the wrong schedule? The year in the schedule CSV file means nothing to OOTP; the game strictly goes by day number. The year value is solely derived from the game itself. That means you could take the schedule from any year with the same number of teams and import it.

I am positive I imported the right schedule. 100% sure of that.

Take a look at when the last games were played in the league. What was the date?

The last regular season game was October 15 between the Cobs and the Cardinals. There were no other games scheduled for that day, and oddly, no games scheduled at all on the 13th or 14th.

On October 12th there were 3 games total.

The World Series started on October 18.

[Le Grande Orange]

The only thing I can suggest next is to look at the game-by-game results for one team and see if it adds up to 154 games or something less. If you see great stretches where the team has no games, then you know something's gone wrong.

If not, then that means the games are there but their results weren't calculated for some reason. That can happen on a day with a messed up All-Star Game, but that only ever affects that one day's worth of games.

[LAH]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

The only thing I can suggest next is to look at the game-by-game results for one team and see if it adds up to 154 games or something less. If you see great stretches where the team has no games, then you know something's gone wrong.

If not, then that means the games are there but their results weren't calculated for some reason. That can happen on a day with a messed up All-Star Game, but that only ever affects that one day's worth of games.

I don't know if I have that kind of time...

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by LAH

I don't know if I have that kind of time...

It shouldn't be that bad. Just pick one team and check out its results on its calendar page. You need only make a quick month-by-month tally of what the record should be based on looking at the final scores. Just count it off mentally, 1-0, 2-0, 2-1, 3-1, etc., until you hit the end of the month, then start again for the next month. Add the months together and compare that to the record for that team in the standings.

I suspect games aren't being counted. If you see games from April to October, that should be 154 games.

[LAH]

i'll try to check it out after work and report back.

[SandMan]

Did you check the schedule itself within the game? Go to the edit schedule in league setup and check out the report - this will give you the number of games for each team. You may have a corrupt schedule.dat file..... Also make sure you set your start date to match the schedule. You do not need to check the CSV that you imported, but the actual file report from within the game...

[spleen1015]

Did you have a crash while you were simming?

[LAH]

Originally Posted by spleen1015

Did you have a crash while you were simming?

No.