Can we run 6.12 and 6.5 separately?

arod23 · 05-29-2005, 10:12 AM

Given that there is always something a bit different in the new versions in terms of statistical outcomes, I would like to test out 6.5 before converting all my leagues from 6.12. Ideally, it would be great to be able to still run the 6.12 version when I wanted to, or at least until the each season ends before converting. But, I don't want to wait to install 6.5, because I would like to run it with new leagues to test it out.

This is not the same as backward league file compatibility. The league files are not normally the issue, it is the engine behind the scenes that can make significant differences in game results. Especially with the AI changes, I expect we will all see some obvious differences in outcomes (albeit for the better).

Does anyone know if we can have both versions at the same time? Maybe copying our 6.12 directory in another location to preserve the ability to run it.

Steve Kuffrey · 05-29-2005, 11:06 AM

Yes, you can run them at the same time in entirely different directories.

Royals · 05-29-2005, 01:09 PM

How? Do we just put the 6.5 exe in a new directory? Sorry if this is a dumb question.

Royals

f.montoya · 05-29-2005, 01:25 PM

Do a fresh install of OOTP6.12 in a separate directory. Then, when the 6.5 expansion pack is available, install it to your original install off OOTP6.12(in the Program Files/Out of the Park Developments/OOTP6 folder.

You should be able to start both from your desktop, but you'll have to remember which icon is which.

statfreak · 05-29-2005, 01:35 PM

I don't think having both .exe in the same directory will work with 6.5. I don't recall where I read that, but I think due to the different data structure in 6.5, you will need to install both OOTP6.12 and OOTP6.5 in separate directories if you want to run both.

Markus, Steve, SkyDog, or another beta tester could confirm though.

treedom · 05-29-2005, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by statfreak

I don't think having both .exe in the same directory will work with 6.5. I don't recall where I read that, but I think due to the different data structure in 6.5, you will need to install both OOTP6.12 and OOTP6.5 in separate directories if you want to run both.

Markus, Steve, SkyDog, or another beta tester could confirm though.

Yeah, spleen said exactly that (he's a beta tester, I believe).

Scott Vibert · 05-30-2005, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by statfreak

I don't think having both .exe in the same directory will work with 6.5. I don't recall where I read that, but I think due to the different data structure in 6.5, you will need to install both OOTP6.12 and OOTP6.5 in separate directories if you want to run both.

Markus, Steve, SkyDog, or another beta tester could confirm though.

This is correct. I have the full version installed in my OOTP6 directory and the Beta Expansion in a new OOTP65 directory.

Ben E Lou · 06-11-2005, 05:54 AM

UPDATE: Later versions of the beta auto-install into an OOTP 6.5 Directory.

endgame · 06-11-2005, 10:09 AM

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Originally Posted by f.montoya

You should be able to start both from your desktop, but you'll have to remember which icon is which.

IIRC, there is a mention that 6.5 will have a unique icon. So even that issue should be overcome.

Draft Dodger · 06-11-2005, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by endgame

IIRC, there is a mention that 6.5 will have a unique icon. So even that issue should be overcome.

yep.
and the exe's have different names. but I definitely would echo the other guys who say to install in two seperate directories. Makes it really easy to convert your 6.12 leagues into 6.5 (just copy them into your 6.5 directory and open them with 6.5)

jbmagic · 06-11-2005, 01:04 PM

so version 6.5 will install in a new directory. so that means you will have 6.12 still on your computer? are you able to delete it? or it needs to be there to run 6.5?

also when you install 6.5 will it check to see you have 6.12 full version install?

GeoWar · 06-12-2005, 07:47 PM

will it setup a separate file -- or do we have to rename/move files ?

I am getting confused from these posts.

Ben E Lou · 06-12-2005, 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by GeoWar

will it setup a separate file -- or do we have to rename/move files ?

I am getting confused from these posts.

Make no mistake: it sets up an entirely new directory--OOTP6.5. You don't have to do anything but accept defaults to make it do so.

endgame · 06-12-2005, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

Make no mistake: it sets up an entirely new directory--OOTP6.5. You don't have to do anything but accept defaults to make it do so.

And per your previous post, just move the 6.12 league into that directory and open it? Makes sense. Is there also an import option to bring that league into the directory and, if so, do you prefer one method over the other?

Edit: I should have said copy rather than move. That is if you want the same league running in both versions. If you just want to update the league, then why wouldn't you just move it? After backing it up of course.

spleen1015 · 06-12-2005, 10:15 PM

Your 6.12 leagues will convert automatically when you open them in 6.5.

Maverick · 06-13-2005, 12:02 PM

Won't having two versions installed require the use of two licences?

Not good if you have a version on your home pc and your latop!

Ben E Lou · 06-13-2005, 12:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Maverick

Won't having two versions installed require the use of two licences?

Not good if you have a version on your home pc and your latop!

6.5 will have to have a separate license, don't you think? Otherwise, people could get it for free.

jbmagic · 06-13-2005, 12:12 PM

do you have to have 6.12 installed and on your system when you install 6.5?

and after you install 6.5. can you remove 6.12 off your system?

Treches · 06-13-2005, 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbmagic

do you have to have 6.12 installed and on your system when you install 6.5?

and after you install 6.5. can you remove 6.12 off your system?

1. No. I installed it on my laptop and I didn't even have V6 in it.
2. Yes. See, it's like a different game. You'll have:

>Out of the Park Developments
>OOTP
>OOTP 6
>OOTP 6.5

Ben E Lou · 06-13-2005, 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Treches

1. No. I installed it on my laptop and I didn't even have V6 in it.

But did you have a *license* for v6 on it? I installed on a new machine that didn't have v6. It worked fine up until a build or two ago, at which point it wouldn't run without having a v6 license on the machine. That makes sense. Otherwise, people could get the whole game for $9.99.

05-29-2005, 10:12 AM	#1
arod23 Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 378	Can we run 6.12 and 6.5 separately? Given that there is always something a bit different in the new versions in terms of statistical outcomes, I would like to test out 6.5 before converting all my leagues from 6.12. Ideally, it would be great to be able to still run the 6.12 version when I wanted to, or at least until the each season ends before converting. But, I don't want to wait to install 6.5, because I would like to run it with new leagues to test it out. This is not the same as backward league file compatibility. The league files are not normally the issue, it is the engine behind the scenes that can make significant differences in game results. Especially with the AI changes, I expect we will all see some obvious differences in outcomes (albeit for the better). Does anyone know if we can have both versions at the same time? Maybe copying our 6.12 directory in another location to preserve the ability to run it.

05-29-2005, 11:06 AM	#2
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,023	Yes, you can run them at the same time in entirely different directories. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

05-29-2005, 01:25 PM	#4
f.montoya Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 6,074	Do a fresh install of OOTP6.12 in a separate directory. Then, when the 6.5 expansion pack is available, install it to your original install off OOTP6.12(in the Program Files/Out of the Park Developments/OOTP6 folder. You should be able to start both from your desktop, but you'll have to remember which icon is which. __________________ Fidel Montoya Asahi2 Baseball League ex-Commissioner(Historical League Since 2004) Ex-Web Host Current Mod Maker??

05-29-2005, 01:35 PM	#5
statfreak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 2,434	I don't think having both .exe in the same directory will work with 6.5. I don't recall where I read that, but I think due to the different data structure in 6.5, you will need to install both OOTP6.12 and OOTP6.5 in separate directories if you want to run both. Markus, Steve, SkyDog, or another beta tester could confirm though. __________________ Roll out the barrel!

06-12-2005, 07:47 PM	#12
GeoWar All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 850	will it setup a separate file -- or do we have to rename/move files ? I am getting confused from these posts. __________________ Cal. State Fullerton -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2004 Texas Longhorns -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2005 Oregon State Beavers -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2006 and 2007 With unity comes VICTORY !

05-29-2005, 01:09 PM	#3
Royals Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 194	How? Do we just put the 6.5 exe in a new directory? Sorry if this is a dumb question. Royals

06-11-2005, 05:54 AM	#8
Ben E Lou Front Office Football Central Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Souf Cackilacky Posts: 1,762	UPDATE: Later versions of the beta auto-install into an OOTP 6.5 Directory.

06-11-2005, 01:04 PM	#11
jbmagic Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,417	so version 6.5 will install in a new directory. so that means you will have 6.12 still on your computer? are you able to delete it? or it needs to be there to run 6.5? also when you install 6.5 will it check to see you have 6.12 full version install?

06-12-2005, 10:15 PM	#15
spleen1015 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 6,005	Your 6.12 leagues will convert automatically when you open them in 6.5.

06-13-2005, 12:02 PM	#16
Maverick Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Mansfield, UK. Posts: 186	Won't having two versions installed require the use of two licences? Not good if you have a version on your home pc and your latop! __________________ Keith

06-13-2005, 12:12 PM	#18
jbmagic Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,417	do you have to have 6.12 installed and on your system when you install 6.5? and after you install 6.5. can you remove 6.12 off your system?