Ortiz, Again - Page 2

SoxWin · 06-02-2005, 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TonyJ

Not at all surprising, but you are once again wrong.

No ****. OPS+ of 107 and 112 at ages 21 and 22 respectively.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/o/ortizda01.shtml

SoxWin · 06-02-2005, 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by remangiii

It was a tough at-bat, Ortiz fouled off some good pitches. The pitch in question was right down the middle and about stomach high – easy pickings but Ortiz had a great at bat. Maybe it was wishful thinking, but I thought it would be off the monster at first and then I thought the CF would get it. But it got out with plenty of room to spare.

I do have to stay I was pretty surprised given that Ryan usually kills lefties and Ortiz usually doesn't hit lefties well. Not heartbroken or anything.

He's actually been respectable (ie, not sucking) v lefties for the last 2 seasons. A 784 ops v lefties is much better then earlier in his career.

tim_uwrf · 06-02-2005, 06:27 PM

I always liked Ortiz, but the Twins didn't let him do what the Sox let him do. Swing for the fences. The Twins haven't had a 30+ homer since something like 1987 because they play the "small ball" which is why Ortiz didn't do well in Minnesota.

Once he got to Boston, they let him swing away.

Joshv02 · 06-02-2005, 06:28 PM

Ryan is absolutely sick vs. lefties, sick vs. everyone now, but especially vs. lefties. Amazing. Not something I think we'll see too often.

Ryan is one of my favorite pitchers, btw. I love seeing him hunker over like he is uncomfortable being quiet that big. He seems almost apologetic. Then, he whips the ball and no one can see where it either came from or is going. Fun stuff.

kingcharlesxii · 06-02-2005, 06:31 PM

I thought this thread was going to be about Russ Ortiz. I wanted to hear about his latest near-heart-attacking inducing performance.

Luis_Rivera · 06-02-2005, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by SoxWin

He's actually been respectable (ie, not sucking) v lefties for the last 2 seasons. A 784 ops v lefties is much better then earlier in his career.

IIRC it was mid-June last year where he changed his batting stance to squat a little more. Since then, he's been hitting lefties MUCH better. I believe Eric Van had a split on SoSH that showed this.

Dagrims · 06-02-2005, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by crazyhorsejohnny

He sucked in minny.

Mickey was jealous as hell.

Jonzard · 06-02-2005, 07:22 PM

In Minnesota Ortiz would almost always have one huge month a season. The rest of the year he was nothing special. That and he was hurt a lot.

boilermaker · 06-02-2005, 07:23 PM

He's not bad.

Joshv02 · 06-02-2005, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Luis_Rivera

IIRC it was mid-June last year where he changed his batting stance to squat a little more. Since then, he's been hitting lefties MUCH better. I believe Eric Van had a split on SoSH that showed this.

Eric Van has a split to show just about anything.

(edit) L_R: did you ever read his study on Veritek and sleeping disorders? Wow. Anyway, I read a post somewhere last year that Eric Van was the love child of Bill James and Oliver Stone. That about sums it up perfectly

Luis_Rivera · 06-02-2005, 07:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshv02

Eric Van has a split to show just about anything.

Yep... he also showed how much Millar improved after he opened up his stance last year.

Joshv02 · 06-02-2005, 07:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Luis_Rivera

Yep... he also showed how much Millar improved after he opened up his stance last year.

Opps!

Teddyballgame · 06-02-2005, 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshv02

Opps!

Right..then closed it again...then opened it again....then sorta closed it but sorta opened it.

Teddyballgame · 06-02-2005, 07:46 PM

dola,

opps means oops, right? It's not some SOSH slang, is it?

Joshv02 · 06-02-2005, 07:48 PM

Yea, opps means I take typing lessons from cc.

<-- not a SoSH member.

Luis_Rivera · 06-02-2005, 07:52 PM

I'm a SoSH member (LJ gave me membership after I met him at the trophy bash in February) but I don't have the goddamn passwords to the Members Only part. I've been trying to get in contact with LJ but it's a huge pain in the ass.

More importantly I want the pw to the ticket swap forums. Makes things soooo much easier to get tickets.

jaxmagicman · 06-03-2005, 10:17 PM

Can he do it again tonight? Well it isn't the 9th but he has a chance for a big hit.

andjbock · 06-03-2005, 10:18 PM

I'll say base hit, does them in bunches.

jaxmagicman · 06-03-2005, 10:19 PM

Took a big swing there.

andjbock · 06-03-2005, 10:19 PM

Good enough 4 me.

06-02-2005, 06:28 PM	#24
Joshv02 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: , " Posts: 3,082	Ryan is absolutely sick vs. lefties, sick vs. everyone now, but especially vs. lefties. Amazing. Not something I think we'll see too often. Ryan is one of my favorite pitchers, btw. I love seeing him hunker over like he is uncomfortable being quiet that big. He seems almost apologetic. Then, he whips the ball and no one can see where it either came from or is going. Fun stuff. __________________ Brookline Maccabees. RIP

06-02-2005, 06:31 PM	#25
kingcharlesxii Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,731	I thought this thread was going to be about Russ Ortiz. I wanted to hear about his latest near-heart-attacking inducing performance. __________________ Formerly in the OTBA - Stockholm Royal Squirrels of Sweden OOTP Grand League Champion 2015

06-02-2005, 07:22 PM	#28
Jonzard Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,647	In Minnesota Ortiz would almost always have one huge month a season. The rest of the year he was nothing special. That and he was hurt a lot. __________________ For a scientist must indeed be freely imaginative and yet skeptical, creative and yet a critic. There is a sense in which he must be free, but another in which his thought must be very precisely regimented; there is poetry in science, but also a lot of bookkeeping. — Sir Peter B. Medawar FTB

06-02-2005, 07:46 PM	#34
Teddyballgame Major Leagues Join Date: May 2002 Location: Boston Posts: 332	dola, opps means oops, right? It's not some SOSH slang, is it? __________________ The roads in America are paved with cheese

06-02-2005, 07:48 PM	#35
Joshv02 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: , " Posts: 3,082	Yea, opps means I take typing lessons from cc. <-- not a SoSH member. __________________ Brookline Maccabees. RIP

06-02-2005, 06:27 PM	#23
tim_uwrf Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Field of Dreams Posts: 1,998	I always liked Ortiz, but the Twins didn't let him do what the Sox let him do. Swing for the fences. The Twins haven't had a 30+ homer since something like 1987 because they play the "small ball" which is why Ortiz didn't do well in Minnesota. Once he got to Boston, they let him swing away.

06-02-2005, 07:23 PM	#29
boilermaker All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: San Jose, CA Posts: 1,956	He's not bad.

06-02-2005, 07:52 PM	#36
Luis_Rivera Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Massachusetts Posts: 4,177	I'm a SoSH member (LJ gave me membership after I met him at the trophy bash in February) but I don't have the goddamn passwords to the Members Only part. I've been trying to get in contact with LJ but it's a huge pain in the ass. More importantly I want the pw to the ticket swap forums. Makes things soooo much easier to get tickets.

06-03-2005, 10:17 PM	#37
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	Can he do it again tonight? Well it isn't the 9th but he has a chance for a big hit. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

06-03-2005, 10:18 PM	#38
andjbock Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Somerville, MA, USA Bats: Right Throws: Left Posts: 3,640	I'll say base hit, does them in bunches.

06-03-2005, 10:19 PM	#39
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	Took a big swing there. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.