E-License Site Down!!!???

AngelsDork · 02-28-2002, 05:49 PM

I tried to re-license OOTP3 & FOF2 tonight and neither one could connect to get the license. I even tried hitting elicense.com and it was hosed as well. Hopefully it's just some maintenance or something.

PiiWorks · 02-28-2002, 05:52 PM

I actually tried to re-license FOF2 the other day but can't find my order number anywhere...I miss that game...IMHO, it was the best in the series

AngelsDork · 02-28-2002, 05:52 PM

Yeh, FOF2 was the best IMO as well. I hope they get this worked out before 6am.

GrantDawg · 02-28-2002, 05:53 PM

[quote]Originally posted by PiiWorks:
I actually tried to re-license FOF2 the other day but can't find my order number anywhere...I miss that game...IMHO, it was the best in the series<hr></blockquote>

As a FOF veteran, yes that was the best version. Hopefully Jim is working to improve that, but he is keeping his new project secret.

Scott Vibert · 02-28-2002, 05:55 PM

Didn't Jim mention in one of the chats that he has to start all the way back at the FOF foundation, because EA actually ended up with the rights to the FOF2 and FOF2K1 foundations? Maybe I'm just remembering incorrectly but I thought I saw that on FOFC

AngelsDork · 02-28-2002, 05:57 PM

Hmm, now I'm all worried that e-license went down. Can't license ootp4 if they don't get their crap together. Even their website is broken. This can't be good.

I sound like some kind of doomsday freak.

GrantDawg · 02-28-2002, 05:57 PM

[quote]Originally posted by ScottVib:
Didn't Jim mention in one of the chats that he has to start all the way back at the FOF foundation, because EA actually ended up with the rights to the FOF2 and FOF2K1 foundations? Maybe I'm just remembering incorrectly but I thought I saw that on FOFC<hr></blockquote>

Yup. He used FOF1 as the foundation to TCY. It'll be interesting to see if he is doing a football game, what he has altered.

AngelsDork · 02-28-2002, 05:59 PM

Jim needs to make a multiplayer version but he hasn't seemed too receptive to the idea. I suspect that will never happen.

Willy · 02-28-2002, 06:00 PM

Can't wait for Jim's next product, I have no idea what it could be but it leaves you with a warm 'It could be' feeling... Good idea to keep it quiet until closer to release.

Giants44 · 02-28-2002, 06:05 PM

I can’t say that I blame him, But IMO Jim seem to tire of the nit picking of the community and almost seemed uninterested in creating anything new. I don’t claim to “know” him but I was one of his first ten customers and back in the beginning talked a lot to him via e-mail, he seemed much happier then.

I think the greatest mistake Jim made, is the great accomplishment of Markus. Jim made his game very closed so there was little you could do in terms of editing and customization. Markus kept his game totally open. That way not only do you got lots of people making add-ons, but the game itself never grows old, since it can always be customized.

As good a game as OOTP is, what gives it its “cult” following is the tremendous OOTP community. Everyone has something to add and it makes for a very positive experience.

PiiWorks · 02-28-2002, 06:05 PM

Does anyone know if viatech still offers licenses for FOF2?

Killebrew · 02-28-2002, 06:07 PM

[quote]Originally posted by PiiWorks:
Does anyone know if viatech still offers licenses for FOF2?<hr></blockquote>

I don't see why not, if you just lost your license you might be able to get it replaced over the phone too.

[ March 01, 2002: Message edited by: Killebrew ]

AngelsDork · 02-28-2002, 06:09 PM

I'm not sure what customer number I am but he did call me that first day(FOF1 ofcourse) to make sure my order went through. I guess the company he had taking orders botched something. It would seem to me (your average drunk) that a game like that would sell more copies if it had a multiplayer option. I'm baffled why he has no interest in doing such. Perhaps it's the difficulty of it all.

Draft Dodger · 02-28-2002, 06:19 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Giants44:
I can’t say that I blame him, But IMO Jim seem to tire of the nit picking of the community and almost seemed uninterested in creating anything new. I don’t claim to “know” him but I was one of his first ten customers and back in the beginning talked a lot to him via e-mail, he seemed much happier then.

I think the greatest mistake Jim made, is the great accomplishment of Markus. Jim made his game very closed so there was little you could do in terms of editing and customization. Markus kept his game totally open. That way not only do you got lots of people making add-ons, but the game itself never grows old, since it can always be customized.

As good a game as OOTP is, what gives it its “cult” following is the tremendous OOTP community. Everyone has something to add and it makes for a very positive experience.<hr></blockquote>

I think you hit the nail right on the head on both counts.

GrantDawg · 02-28-2002, 06:19 PM

[quote]Originally posted by AngelsDork:
I'm not sure what customer number I am but he did call me that first day(FOF1 ofcourse) to make sure my order went through. I guess the company he had taking orders botched something. It would seem to me (your average drunk) that a game like that would sell more copies if it had a multiplayer option. I'm baffled why he has no interest in doing such. Perhaps it's the difficulty of it all.<hr></blockquote>

All of Jim's games are created as he would like them, even if the customers are asking for something different. He doesn't like online games, hence no online products. EA was supposed to release FOF online, but they dropped the ball as EA always does.

Jim is a good developer, and I'll pretty much buy anything he makes. But he is egocentric, and his customer service skills are somewhat lacking.

PiiWorks · 02-28-2002, 06:23 PM

[quote] Jim is a good developer, and I'll pretty much buy anything he makes. But he is egocentric, and his customer service skills are somewhat lacking. <hr></blockquote>

Ain't that the truth...both statements are how I feel exactly...i would buy any of his products as they are great, but his ego is as big as my last girls A$$...and that was big

PCline26 · 02-28-2002, 07:48 PM

Not to worry, it's back up. It was probably just server maintenance, but E-License is back online.

hellfrozeover · 02-28-2002, 08:13 PM

Thank God, I almost jumped off a tall building when I heard that it was down.

02-28-2002, 05:49 PM	#1
AngelsDork Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Upland, Ca. Posts: 43	E-License Site Down!!!??? I tried to re-license OOTP3 & FOF2 tonight and neither one could connect to get the license. I even tried hitting elicense.com and it was hosed as well. Hopefully it's just some maintenance or something.

02-28-2002, 05:53 PM	#4
GrantDawg All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Covington, Ga. Posts: 519	[quote]Originally posted by PiiWorks: <strong>I actually tried to re-license FOF2 the other day but can't find my order number anywhere...I miss that game...IMHO, it was the best in the series</strong><hr></blockquote> As a FOF veteran, yes that was the best version. Hopefully Jim is working to improve that, but he is keeping his new project secret.

02-28-2002, 05:57 PM	#7
GrantDawg All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Covington, Ga. Posts: 519	[quote]Originally posted by ScottVib: <strong>Didn't Jim mention in one of the chats that he has to start all the way back at the FOF foundation, because EA actually ended up with the rights to the FOF2 and FOF2K1 foundations? Maybe I'm just remembering incorrectly but I thought I saw that on FOFC</strong><hr></blockquote> Yup. He used FOF1 as the foundation to TCY. It'll be interesting to see if he is doing a football game, what he has altered.

02-28-2002, 06:00 PM	#9
Willy Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Regina, Sk Posts: 443	Can't wait for Jim's next product, I have no idea what it could be but it leaves you with a warm 'It could be' feeling... Good idea to keep it quiet until closer to release. __________________ Consoles are for little kids.

02-28-2002, 06:05 PM	#10
Giants44 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: San Francisco Bay Area Posts: 2,408	I can’t say that I blame him, But IMO Jim seem to tire of the nit picking of the community and almost seemed uninterested in creating anything new. I don’t claim to “know” him but I was one of his first ten customers and back in the beginning talked a lot to him via e-mail, he seemed much happier then. I think the greatest mistake Jim made, is the great accomplishment of Markus. Jim made his game very closed so there was little you could do in terms of editing and customization. Markus kept his game totally open. That way not only do you got lots of people making add-ons, but the game itself never grows old, since it can always be customized. As good a game as OOTP is, what gives it its “cult” following is the tremendous OOTP community. Everyone has something to add and it makes for a very positive experience. __________________ "In a text sim - Immersion is everything" -Me "Judge a man not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character" -Martin Luther King "Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts." -Einstein "The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." -Muhammad Ali "Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." -Toby Harrah

02-28-2002, 05:52 PM	#2
PiiWorks Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 43	I actually tried to re-license FOF2 the other day but can't find my order number anywhere...I miss that game...IMHO, it was the best in the series

02-28-2002, 05:55 PM	#5
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,264	Didn't Jim mention in one of the chats that he has to start all the way back at the FOF foundation, because EA actually ended up with the rights to the FOF2 and FOF2K1 foundations? Maybe I'm just remembering incorrectly but I thought I saw that on FOFC

02-28-2002, 05:59 PM	#8
AngelsDork Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Upland, Ca. Posts: 43	Jim needs to make a multiplayer version but he hasn't seemed too receptive to the idea. I suspect that will never happen.

02-28-2002, 06:07 PM	#12
Killebrew Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 3,326	[quote]Originally posted by PiiWorks: <strong>Does anyone know if viatech still offers licenses for FOF2?</strong><hr></blockquote> I don't see why not, if you just lost your license you might be able to get it replaced over the phone too. [ March 01, 2002: Message edited by: Killebrew ]</p> __________________ FOBL Capital City Metropolitans CDL Minnesota Twins

02-28-2002, 06:09 PM	#13
AngelsDork Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Upland, Ca. Posts: 43	I'm not sure what customer number I am but he did call me that first day(FOF1 ofcourse) to make sure my order went through. I guess the company he had taking orders botched something. It would seem to me (your average drunk) that a game like that would sell more copies if it had a multiplayer option. I'm baffled why he has no interest in doing such. Perhaps it's the difficulty of it all.

02-28-2002, 06:19 PM	#14
Draft Dodger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: formerly of the OTBL Posts: 4,113	[quote]Originally posted by Giants44: <strong>I can’t say that I blame him, But IMO Jim seem to tire of the nit picking of the community and almost seemed uninterested in creating anything new. I don’t claim to “know” him but I was one of his first ten customers and back in the beginning talked a lot to him via e-mail, he seemed much happier then. I think the greatest mistake Jim made, is the great accomplishment of Markus. Jim made his game very closed so there was little you could do in terms of editing and customization. Markus kept his game totally open. That way not only do you got lots of people making add-ons, but the game itself never grows old, since it can always be customized. As good a game as OOTP is, what gives it its “cult” following is the tremendous OOTP community. Everyone has something to add and it makes for a very positive experience.</strong><hr></blockquote> I think you hit the nail right on the head on both counts. __________________ Draft Dodger (Anarchy: Anything goes. The Draft Dodger viewpoint.) Sophmoric[sic] Member of the OOTP Boards (It's not OOTP; it's your computer) 15 GB Webhosting for $6.95 a month IMO we are best off abandoning that sinking ship that is Off Topic to the rats infesting it and just starting a whole new Baseball Forum from scratch.

02-28-2002, 06:23 PM	#16
PiiWorks Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 43	[quote] Jim is a good developer, and I'll pretty much buy anything he makes. But he is egocentric, and his customer service skills are somewhat lacking. <hr></blockquote> Ain't that the truth...both statements are how I feel exactly...i would buy any of his products as they are great, but his ego is as big as my last girls A$$...and that was big

02-28-2002, 07:48 PM	#17
PCline26 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: NC Posts: 658	Not to worry, it's back up. It was probably just server maintenance, but E-License is back online.

02-28-2002, 08:13 PM	#18
hellfrozeover All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,130	Thank God, I almost jumped off a tall building when I heard that it was down. __________________ FBA Chicago Syndicate Former Owner: WBL Minnesota Twins 2004 - 2007 AL Central Division Champs OOL Chicago Whales 2006, 2009 UL East Champs; 2006, 2009 United League Champs IBA Lehigh Valley Diamonds 2006 Governor's Cup Champions VSLB New York Yankees 2001, 2002 AL East Division Champs ILBL Commissioner/Chicago Cubs 2002 NL Central Division Champs; 2002 National League Champs ASBL New York Yankees 2006 AL East Division Champs