Major Error w/DFA in 6.12 Patch! - Page 2

dougaiton · 03-20-2005, 07:03 PM

I don't think this matters whether the patch is beta or live. This is a complaint about a feature that has been added that may or may not harm someone's enjoyment of the game.

I have no idea whether it will or not, and whether this is better or worse than what it was previously, because waivers seem to be pretty FUBAR, IMO.

However, I don't see what's different with this (someone reading the fixes list and saying 'I don't like it) and the stooshie raised when Markus mentioned he was going to introduce POISE in a list of features (thank heavens for that stooshie, or else we'd have an engine akin to some other sims I could mention). The only difference is that the BETA was released by mistake. Even if it hadn't been, this would still have been an issue for this chap, because I'm pretty sure Markus mentioned he'd be doing something like this earlier.

jbmagic · 03-20-2005, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCity

You forget that no one was supposed to have gotten their hands on it, so it's not like someone thought about what it should be named.

i agree

just think it should of never been there if the link can be access by the public to download it.

i won't download it, until Markus offical word.

darkhorse · 03-20-2005, 07:30 PM

Oh, well. So much for 6.12 coming out on the weekend.

thomamon · 03-20-2005, 07:36 PM

Like I have said before, I understand it is BETA.

And with that, I think it's better that we noticed now that you are not allowed to put a player directly on DFA now, so it can be fixed for the final patch.

IF this is allowed with the final patch, it'll be the worst patch ever and totally make any good DFA has done, go to waste.

TM

jbmagic · 03-20-2005, 07:40 PM

Markus

for DFA, why don't you have an option to have it on or off in the league setup.

Like you do for waivers.

rem · 03-20-2005, 07:42 PM

Because DFA is where players who are signed or traded for are put.

jbmagic · 03-20-2005, 07:47 PM

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Originally Posted by remangiii

Because DFA is where players who are signed or traded for are put.

so DFA was wrong before, when you can drag it from active roster to DFA box?

So DFA was meant for trades and free agents sign only?

it will still be cool to have it DFA option to turn on or off. if you want it like OOTP had it before DFA was introduced on ootp 6

endgame · 03-20-2005, 07:48 PM

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Originally Posted by endgame

... I'm equally prepared for an announcement that says ...

..... something at all.

rem · 03-20-2005, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

so DFA was wrong before, when you can drag it from active roster to DFA box?

No, the two things are unrelated.

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

So DFA was meant for trades and free agents sign only?

Hope not.

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

it will still be cool to have it DFA option to turn on or off. if you want it like OOTP had it before DFA was introduced on ootp 6

Perhaps, but it's not feasible.

You'll Thank Me Later · 03-20-2005, 10:03 PM

Is the weekend over yet?

thomamon · 03-20-2005, 10:12 PM

If the choice is having to place a player on waivers to put him on DFA, I would rather have it turned off.

Emmaculate · 03-20-2005, 11:38 PM

Agree with Thomamon completely in this thread.

I Am The Game · 03-21-2005, 11:42 AM

I have not downloaded the patch, as we're just starting the postseason in our league but - I would assume that you could waive/DFA the player, and then just take the player off of waivers?? Most of the time when a player is going from active roster to DFA he's going on waivers ANYWAYS. IF that's the case (as I said, I don't know if it is because I haven't downloaded that patch), I'll take the tradeoff in order to close that loophole.

If not then, well it's somewhat disappointing.

jbmagic · 03-21-2005, 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by thomamon

This is listed in the descriptions of fixes:

- Players cannot be moved directly from the active roster to the DFA area now

This needs to be fixed and reversed. In MLB you can place a player on DFA and then decide what you want to do with him.

If you need to make room for a player on your 25 man roster you can send him to DFA and decide to do with him after the next sim. Just because you put a player on DVA does not mean he has to go on waivers. You can send him to AAA if he has options left, you can release him or put him on waivers.

TM

ok looks like they took it out on the offical 6.12 patch.. it been remove from the readme.

and i tested it out. you can move players from active roster to the DFA area

good news.

Draft Dodger · 03-21-2005, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

ok looks like they took it out on the offical 6.12 patch.. it been remove from the readme.

and i tested it out. you can move players from active roster to the DFA area

good news.

and what have we learned from all of this?

andymac · 03-21-2005, 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

and what have we learned from all of this?

S*** gets done when you freak out about it?

jbmagic · 03-21-2005, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

and what have we learned from all of this?

if we keep quiet, it would of not been done most likely.

Joshv02 · 03-21-2005, 02:19 PM

What hubris.

This was a beta version not meant for release. What makes people think that the testers did not see this and it wasn't corrected before final release that way?

Bobbuttons · 03-21-2005, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Draft Dodger

and what have we learned from all of this?

thomamon = Chicken Little?

BigCity · 03-21-2005, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Joshv02

What hubris.

This was a beta version not meant for release. What makes people think that the testers did not see this and it wasn't corrected before final release that way?

Because no one trusts the beta testers...

03-20-2005, 07:03 PM	#21
dougaiton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Location: Posts: 3,414	I don't think this matters whether the patch is beta or live. This is a complaint about a feature that has been added that may or may not harm someone's enjoyment of the game. I have no idea whether it will or not, and whether this is better or worse than what it was previously, because waivers seem to be pretty FUBAR, IMO. However, I don't see what's different with this (someone reading the fixes list and saying 'I don't like it) and the stooshie raised when Markus mentioned he was going to introduce POISE in a list of features (thank heavens for that stooshie, or else we'd have an engine akin to some other sims I could mention). The only difference is that the BETA was released by mistake. Even if it hadn't been, this would still have been an issue for this chap, because I'm pretty sure Markus mentioned he'd be doing something like this earlier. __________________ tThis shower of clowns My park-adjusted, historically split Born in '69 league file! (also at Joe's wonderful site +BBSC)

03-20-2005, 07:30 PM	#23
darkhorse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: fort worth, tx Posts: 10,850	Oh, well. So much for 6.12 coming out on the weekend. __________________ "The Human Torch was denied a bank loan."

03-20-2005, 07:36 PM	#24
thomamon Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 5,274	Like I have said before, I understand it is BETA. And with that, I think it's better that we noticed now that you are not allowed to put a player directly on DFA now, so it can be fixed for the final patch. IF this is allowed with the final patch, it'll be the worst patch ever and totally make any good DFA has done, go to waste. TM __________________ Thomas A. Montalto Please check out my Stupid Little Blog - http://www.stupidlittleblog.com

03-20-2005, 07:42 PM	#26
rem Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, Md. Posts: 5,024	Because DFA is where players who are signed or traded for are put. __________________ OTBA: Washington Filibusters CLBR: Minnesota Twins 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0

03-20-2005, 10:03 PM	#30
You'll Thank Me Later Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2005 Location: Ready to bite Posts: 193	Is the weekend over yet? __________________ "If you don't care enough to search for the answer, or to give a good description of your problem, why should anybody take the time to help you?" - Dark Horse

03-20-2005, 07:40 PM	#25
jbmagic Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,417	Markus for DFA, why don't you have an option to have it on or off in the league setup. Like you do for waivers.

03-20-2005, 10:12 PM	#31
thomamon Global Moderator Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 5,274	If the choice is having to place a player on waivers to put him on DFA, I would rather have it turned off. __________________ Thomas A. Montalto Please check out my Stupid Little Blog - http://www.stupidlittleblog.com

03-20-2005, 11:38 PM	#32
Emmaculate Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: BC, Canada Posts: 238	Agree with Thomamon completely in this thread. __________________ APBL- Seattle Mariners OTM- Pittsburgh River Bandits HBL- Colorado Rockies www.actionpackedbaseballleague.com www.overthemound.com/blog www.hblbaseball.com/forums/

03-21-2005, 11:42 AM	#33
I Am The Game All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Red Sox Nation Posts: 691	I have not downloaded the patch, as we're just starting the postseason in our league but - I would assume that you could waive/DFA the player, and then just take the player off of waivers?? Most of the time when a player is going from active roster to DFA he's going on waivers ANYWAYS. IF that's the case (as I said, I don't know if it is because I haven't downloaded that patch), I'll take the tradeoff in order to close that loophole. If not then, well it's somewhat disappointing.

03-21-2005, 02:19 PM	#38
Joshv02 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: , " Posts: 3,082	What hubris. This was a beta version not meant for release. What makes people think that the testers did not see this and it wasn't corrected before final release that way? __________________ Brookline Maccabees. RIP