Red Sox Get Cliff Floyd From Montreal!!!!!!!! - Page 2

jblaze03fuel · 08-01-2002, 12:15 AM

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Originally posted by doubles

Scott, as an Expo fan, you are 100% right. Floyd did nothing while he was here and to be honest, I'd rather the platoon of Troy O'Leary/Wil Cordero then have Cliff Floyd. In a couple of weeks, Red Sox fans will hope they had O'Leary back instead of Floyd.

JWay-- Montreal is still contending.. they figured out they had a better chance w/o Floyd...

Jared

You guys are making him out to be a bad player. He was probably the 2nd best on Montreal after Vlad, maybe 3rd after Vidro. Wait and see what he does in boston. Don't give him 2AB's and trash him b/c he doesnt do what you want him to.

Recte44 · 08-01-2002, 02:37 AM

I personally think the Red Sox got a major steal by trading two flameout "stuff" prospects for a prominent slugger in Floyd.
Garciaparra, Ramirez, Floyd. That's nice!

Kelric · 08-01-2002, 10:01 AM

Song might develop into a starter but I don't see Kim being more than a relief pitcher.

Just think...in another year the Red Sox will have given Montreal 3/5s of their starting rotation...

Bartolo Colon
Javier Vazquez
Tony Armas
Tomo Ohka
Seung Song (or whatever his name is)

Don't forget we also sent Carl Pavano...

And on the Troy O'Leary issue - We have Manny in leftfield - why the hell would we want O'Leary anyways? Floyd is just another piece to winning the Wild Card.

Go Tribe · 08-01-2002, 10:02 AM

Woo Hoo - way to set those goals!

Screw the division - give us the damn wild card

Kelric · 08-01-2002, 10:14 AM

I'm a Red Sox fan - I know we won't beat the Yankees.

The Yanks could have Jose Lima as their staff ace and Dean Palmer as their best hitter (or just the entire Tigers roster), and we'd still lose to them.

bwd · 08-01-2002, 10:14 AM

i cant believe people are saying floyd didnt do anything for montreal. he was there for 2 weeks! granted he was slumping but give the guy some slack.

SufferingSoxFan · 08-01-2002, 04:08 PM

First off, I love the Red Sox and have all of my life growing up in Rhode Island and now living in MA. And I hate the Yankees with a passion. All this lovey dovey bulls**t about how nice the Yankee players are and how Jeter and Nomar are good friends, doesn't fly with me baby. I jumped for joy when the D Backs beat Rivera and the Yankees last fall.

With that said, you have to realize that most Red Sox fans (I'd say 2/3 of them) are brutally optimistic. I, after 30 years on this earth, as a Red Sox fan have come to accept and expect the June swoon followed by the wilting of August. It's part of summer in new england just like dead grass, tourist season on the cape, and chowda and fried clams at Aunt Carries (Rhode Island).

The Yankees have assembled what is probably the best offensive lineup since the 99 Indians or the 75 Reds. Once their 3 big starters (Roger, Moose, Pettitte) regain their form in late august it will be garbage time, they will blow the Sox away gaining a 10 game lead. Nothing about the Yankees tells me that they will be a weaker team down the stretch run on August and September. As much as I hate to admit this all, it is merely the reality.

Ofcourse, there's definitely going to be a work stoppage and a WS cancellation so who cares, this season doesn't count anyways.

jblaze03fuel · 08-01-2002, 04:15 PM

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Originally posted by Kelric
I'm a Red Sox fan - I know we won't beat the Yankees.

The Yanks could have Jose Lima as their staff ace and Dean Palmer as their best hitter (or just the entire Tigers roster), and we'd still lose to them.

Your not a true redsox fan if you make comments likethat.

Carplos · 08-01-2002, 05:35 PM

Yeah, it just makes him an INTELLIGENT Red Sox fan, instead.

mh2365 · 08-02-2002, 12:05 AM

Floyd was in a little slump with the Expos .... of course he was told to his face that he wouldn't be traded from the Marlins, then found out he was on ESPN's bottom line .... maybe that had something to do with it .... let's see ... Pavano, Armas, Ohka, Song, Kim for Pedro, Uggie, and Floyd .... not too bad ... like I said earlier I'd rather of had Thome, but I for one am happy to have Floyd

jblaze03fuel · 08-02-2002, 02:01 AM

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Originally posted by Carplos
Yeah, it just makes him an INTELLIGENT Red Sox fan, instead.

not really

Crapshoot · 08-02-2002, 03:35 AM

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Originally posted by Carplos
Yeah, it just makes him an INTELLIGENT Red Sox fan, instead.

never seen or heard of such a species...
next you'll claim there's a Dodger's fan who's actually stayed till the 8th inning of a game...

Aadik

jblaze03fuel · 08-02-2002, 07:08 AM

Well most of them who left tonight might have regreted it. I thought Gagne was gonna eat that ref for dinner. If Gagne isn't a beast.

Go Tribe · 09-19-2002, 07:35 PM

wow - hindsight really is 20-20

nice move boston

Malignant · 09-19-2002, 09:07 PM

heh this is old news

CommishJoe · 09-21-2002, 03:44 PM

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Originally posted by Malignant
heh this is old news

Yeah, but still fun to read

mh2365 · 09-22-2002, 04:29 AM

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Originally posted by Go Tribe
wow - hindsight really is 20-20

nice move boston

of course they are in the best position to re-sign him now ..... it's funny seeing an Indians fan dogging the Red Sox, weren't the Tribe mathmatically eliminated in May? of course they did trade for all those great young players so they'll be good in 2010

Go Tribe · 09-22-2002, 01:53 PM

we trade all our players and don't make the playoffs

you trade FOR supposed good players, have a much higher payroll, and don't make the playoffs

that's not a 'curse', that's just plain dumb management.

now all the talk about manny is how his contract makes him untradeable - gotta love it

mh2365 · 09-22-2002, 07:08 PM

just curious how Floyd all of a sudden isn't a good player ... just because the Sox didn't make the playoffs??? .... why would they want to trade Manny??? .... so because the Sox tried and didn't just sell out all the season ticket holders who bought tickets at the start of the season only to see the team dismantled in May, that makes it dumb management .... well even if they lost them at least my team was playing meaningful games in late August and early September .... I suppose I could be pissy and make fun of all the other teams that got players for the stretch run and failed, but it's hard to make fun of teams that try to win and don't .... must've made all the Tribe fans a little irritated when your cross state rivals with 1/2 the money to spend went out and got players to try and make the playoffs, oh wait they didn't make it so that's dumb management ...

mh2365 · 09-23-2002, 02:02 AM

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Originally posted by Go Tribe
you trade FOR supposed good players

STATS G AB R H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO SB CS OBP SLG OPS AVG
2002 - AL 41 159 29 52 20 0 7 15 13 27 3 0 .379 .585 .964 .327

supposed good player???? yeah those stats sure do blow

08-01-2002, 02:37 AM	#22
Recte44 Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Oconomowoc, WI Posts: 2,807	I personally think the Red Sox got a major steal by trading two flameout "stuff" prospects for a prominent slugger in Floyd. Garciaparra, Ramirez, Floyd. That's nice! __________________ Matt Rectenwald Commissioner, GM: Las Vegas Hustlers, The Brewster Baseball Association- fictional league (JOIN NOW)

09-19-2002, 09:07 PM	#35
Malignant Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 33	heh this is old news __________________ Just because you're paranoid, don't mean they're not after you.

08-01-2002, 10:01 AM	#23
Kelric Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Greater Boston Area Posts: 3,992	Song might develop into a starter but I don't see Kim being more than a relief pitcher. Just think...in another year the Red Sox will have given Montreal 3/5s of their starting rotation... Bartolo Colon Javier Vazquez Tony Armas Tomo Ohka Seung Song (or whatever his name is) Don't forget we also sent Carl Pavano... And on the Troy O'Leary issue - We have Manny in leftfield - why the hell would we want O'Leary anyways? Floyd is just another piece to winning the Wild Card.

08-01-2002, 10:02 AM	#24
Go Tribe All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,534 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	Woo Hoo - way to set those goals! Screw the division - give us the damn wild card

08-01-2002, 10:14 AM	#25
Kelric Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Greater Boston Area Posts: 3,992	I'm a Red Sox fan - I know we won't beat the Yankees. The Yanks could have Jose Lima as their staff ace and Dean Palmer as their best hitter (or just the entire Tigers roster), and we'd still lose to them.

08-01-2002, 10:14 AM	#26
bwd Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: N/A Posts: 82	i cant believe people are saying floyd didnt do anything for montreal. he was there for 2 weeks! granted he was slumping but give the guy some slack.

08-01-2002, 04:08 PM	#27
SufferingSoxFan Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Attleboro, MA Posts: 150	First off, I love the Red Sox and have all of my life growing up in Rhode Island and now living in MA. And I hate the Yankees with a passion. All this lovey dovey bulls**t about how nice the Yankee players are and how Jeter and Nomar are good friends, doesn't fly with me baby. I jumped for joy when the D Backs beat Rivera and the Yankees last fall. With that said, you have to realize that most Red Sox fans (I'd say 2/3 of them) are brutally optimistic. I, after 30 years on this earth, as a Red Sox fan have come to accept and expect the June swoon followed by the wilting of August. It's part of summer in new england just like dead grass, tourist season on the cape, and chowda and fried clams at Aunt Carries (Rhode Island). The Yankees have assembled what is probably the best offensive lineup since the 99 Indians or the 75 Reds. Once their 3 big starters (Roger, Moose, Pettitte) regain their form in late august it will be garbage time, they will blow the Sox away gaining a 10 game lead. Nothing about the Yankees tells me that they will be a weaker team down the stretch run on August and September. As much as I hate to admit this all, it is merely the reality. Ofcourse, there's definitely going to be a work stoppage and a WS cancellation so who cares, this season doesn't count anyways.

08-01-2002, 05:35 PM	#29
Carplos Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Idaho Posts: 2,847 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	Yeah, it just makes him an INTELLIGENT Red Sox fan, instead.

08-02-2002, 12:05 AM	#30
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Floyd was in a little slump with the Expos .... of course he was told to his face that he wouldn't be traded from the Marlins, then found out he was on ESPN's bottom line .... maybe that had something to do with it .... let's see ... Pavano, Armas, Ohka, Song, Kim for Pedro, Uggie, and Floyd .... not too bad ... like I said earlier I'd rather of had Thome, but I for one am happy to have Floyd

08-02-2002, 07:08 AM	#33
jblaze03fuel All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 920	Well most of them who left tonight might have regreted it. I thought Gagne was gonna eat that ref for dinner. If Gagne isn't a beast.

09-19-2002, 07:35 PM	#34
Go Tribe All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,534 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	wow - hindsight really is 20-20 nice move boston

09-22-2002, 01:53 PM	#38
Go Tribe All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,534 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	we trade all our players and don't make the playoffs you trade FOR supposed good players, have a much higher payroll, and don't make the playoffs that's not a 'curse', that's just plain dumb management. now all the talk about manny is how his contract makes him untradeable - gotta love it

09-22-2002, 07:08 PM	#39
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	just curious how Floyd all of a sudden isn't a good player ... just because the Sox didn't make the playoffs??? .... why would they want to trade Manny??? .... so because the Sox tried and didn't just sell out all the season ticket holders who bought tickets at the start of the season only to see the team dismantled in May, that makes it dumb management .... well even if they lost them at least my team was playing meaningful games in late August and early September .... I suppose I could be pissy and make fun of all the other teams that got players for the stretch run and failed, but it's hard to make fun of teams that try to win and don't .... must've made all the Tribe fans a little irritated when your cross state rivals with 1/2 the money to spend went out and got players to try and make the playoffs, oh wait they didn't make it so that's dumb management ...