U-pick-em - Page 8

metsgeek · 03-08-2005, 11:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Matt from TN

FYI: Some players when imported as rookies import with low ratings (as they should for rookies) but their talents are often lower than they should be too. So, it's taking me just a spot longer, because I'm importing them as vets too to compare & adjust talents.

Keep the draft moving! Can't wait to sim!

Great minds think alike. I was just going to suggest that to you. For some reason, their talents imports at the same levels as their ratings

MogulChamp · 03-08-2005, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by tward13

Bill Bevens near no-hitter in the Series.

Wow! Good one. What a heartbreaking performance. They lost the game too didn't they?

And Stengl doesn't count...I think he's a Hall of Famer isn't he?

DamnYankees · 03-08-2005, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by tward13

Guys with famous catches - Sandy Amoros, Ron Swoboda, Al Gionfriddo

Bill Bevens near no-hitter in the Series.

Yup, I got the Bevens one. It was Cookie Lavagetto who got the hit.

Some other ones I can think of...

Aaron Boone, anyone? (Wait, scratch that. I just checked, and he actually made an all-star game. We can spend some other time discussing how in the hell that ever happened)
Joe Adcock (wait...damnit. 1-time all-star. I think he easily would have been the best player to have never made an All-Star game, but 1960 ruined that.)

I can't think anymore.

DamnYankees · 03-08-2005, 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by MogulChamp

Wow! Good one. What a heartbreaking performance. They lost the game too didn't they?

And Stengl doesn't count...I think he's a Hall of Famer isn't he?

Yes, he is a HOFer, but not as a player. No way as a player. I don't know if Matt makes a distinction here. We'll leave it up to his discretion.

metsgeek · 03-09-2005, 12:03 AM

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Originally Posted by MogulChamp

OK. I had a brainstorm for non all-star kind of players. I was thinking of adding "heroes" to the team. You know..Guys who had one huge hit or moment in their career which is what they will be remembered for. Except...I am running out of guys who aren't all stars. I have only come up with 3, some help would be appreciated.

I'll probably go for the "all-obscure, all-weird name" team

tward13 · 03-09-2005, 12:07 AM

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Originally Posted by DamnYankees

Yes, he is a HOFer, but not as a player. No way as a player. I don't know if Matt makes a distinction here. We'll leave it up to his discretion.

Casey should be eligible. He was a decent player in his day, but made the Hall because of his managing with the Yanks.

Yes, Bevens lost that game. I also think that was Lavagetto's last major league AB (and hit)

metsgeek · 03-09-2005, 12:09 AM

JT, get ready. I sent a list to Matt. Either he or I will post it as soon as spud's time is up.

Matt from TN · 03-09-2005, 12:12 AM

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Originally Posted by tward13

Casey should be eligible. He was a decent player in his day, but made the Hall because of his managing with the Yanks.

Exactly, he and others like Lasorda, Herzog, Larussa, Zimmer, Mack, etc are HOF managers so they are eligible as players. Well, they're not all HOF'ers. Plenty of managers who were former players nowadays too.

And I'm about to update the draft.

tward13 · 03-09-2005, 12:15 AM

Go for it. Waiting for some movement here !

Matt from TN · 03-09-2005, 12:20 AM

Original draft order:

1. Providence - tward13
2. Washington - jaxmagicman
3. Baltimore - Carlton
4. New York - metsgeek
5. Cleveland - ifspuds
6. Buffalo - woody5254
7. Louisville - TexasLonghorns
8. Boston - DamnYankees
9. New Haven - MogulChamp
10. Newark - jeheinz72
11. Philadelphia - canadiancreed
12. Richmond - Fallschirmjager

Hall of Famers
Round 1

1. Providence - Babe Ruth, RF
2. Washington - Lou Gehrig, 1B
3. Baltimore - Ty Cobb, CF
4. New York - Ted Williams, LF
5. Cleveland - Walter Johnson, SP
6. Buffalo - Rogers Hornsby, 2B
7. Louisville - Sandy Koufax, SP
8. Boston - Willie Mays, CF
9. New Haven - Christy Mathewson, SP
10. Newark - Hank Aaron, RF
11. Philadelphia - Cy Young, SP
12. Richmond - Oscar Charleston, CF

All-Stars, Rd's 2-6

Round 2
1. Richmond - Ron Santo 3B
2. Philadelphia - Joe Jackson LF
3. Newark - Albert Pujols 1B
4. New Haven - Frank Thomas 1B
5. Boston - Jim Rice, LF
6. Louisville - Dale Murphy, CF
7. Buffalo - Smokey Joe Wood, SP
8. Cleveland - Andre Dawson, RF
9. New York - Ed Ruelbach, SP
10. Baltimore -
11. Washington -
12. Providence -

Carlton, if you're online to make your next pick, stick around because I have lists to take me right back to your Rd 3 pick too.

Matt from TN · 03-09-2005, 12:22 AM

While we're just sitting around waiting, I'll let you know that at some point (max 10 years likely) we will add another 12 teams. So if others are interested in a team at that point, they can have one of those.

tward13 · 03-09-2005, 12:23 AM

DAMN, you guys are good. I thought for SURE Reulbach was mine. Good job metsgeek

metsgeek · 03-09-2005, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by tward13

DAMN, you guys are good. I thought for SURE Reulbach was mine. Good job metsgeek

Thanks, I have a lot of free time

Matt, I'll send a new list shortly.

jeheinz72 · 03-09-2005, 12:42 AM

Will we make amatuer drafts for our squads as well?

DamnYankees · 03-09-2005, 12:50 AM

Not to ruffle feathers, but I'd like to object (if at all possible) to the selections of Thomas and Pujols. I know it may be too late to change anything, but I think Matt needs a new rule: If you select an active player, then when you take his averages per 162 or whatever, they can't be HOF quality. Let's be honest, Albert Pujols is in the top 3 all-time First-Four-Years. It's him, Ted Williams, and Cobb, I would think. The fact is, when you import Pujols, you're importing a Half of Fame caliber player, no doubt. I don't think he belongs.

As for Thomas, come on. The guy is an easy, EASY hall of famer. Had maybe the best hitting streak of 5+ years since Ted Williams. Owned the early to mid 1990s. I think we forget just how incredible he was as a hitter. As it stands now, he has 436 HR, 2113 hits, 1450 walks, and a career OBP of .429. He still has a few years left. He'll get 500 HR. He has the 11th highest OBP of all time.

Come on people. Tell me one of you would not vote for Thomas to get inducted to Cooperstown.

That's my two cents. Had a few minutes, figured a good rant was in order.

tward13 · 03-09-2005, 12:57 AM

Can't necessarily disagree, but we're just going with what Matt gave us. Maybe after round two he can add more guys to the off limits list or tighten the rules.

metsgeek · 03-09-2005, 01:03 AM

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Originally Posted by DamnYankees

That's my two cents. Had a few minutes, figured a good rant was in order.

DY, read over the past couple pages. F-Jager (sorry, don't want to attempt spelling that) already brought that up. In my opinion, if he's not on the list put up by Matt, he's fair game.

Once again, it's not a league.

Matt from TN · 03-09-2005, 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by jeheinz72

Will we make amatuer drafts for our squads as well?

In future seasons, yes. Each draft should be 3 rounds.

DY, I agree that Pujols (if he keeps up his pace) is a HOF'er. Thomas too I suppose, but then I'd have to go back and take off Jackson & make Rose off limits. We'll just live with what we've got, but I'll be more strict after round 2 to some degree. My priority is speed at this point.

tward13 · 03-09-2005, 01:07 AM

Speaking of speed, when's the next pick?

Matt from TN · 03-09-2005, 01:08 AM

Original draft order:

1. Providence - tward13
2. Washington - jaxmagicman
3. Baltimore - Carlton
4. New York - metsgeek
5. Cleveland - ifspuds
6. Buffalo - woody5254
7. Louisville - TexasLonghorns
8. Boston - DamnYankees
9. New Haven - MogulChamp
10. Newark - jeheinz72
11. Philadelphia - canadiancreed
12. Richmond - Fallschirmjager

Hall of Famers
Round 1

1. Providence - Babe Ruth, RF
2. Washington - Lou Gehrig, 1B
3. Baltimore - Ty Cobb, CF
4. New York - Ted Williams, LF
5. Cleveland - Walter Johnson, SP
6. Buffalo - Rogers Hornsby, 2B
7. Louisville - Sandy Koufax, SP
8. Boston - Willie Mays, CF
9. New Haven - Christy Mathewson, SP
10. Newark - Hank Aaron, RF
11. Philadelphia - Cy Young, SP
12. Richmond - Oscar Charleston, CF

All-Stars, Rd's 2-6

Round 2
1. Richmond - Ron Santo 3B
2. Philadelphia - Joe Jackson LF
3. Newark - Albert Pujols 1B
4. New Haven - Frank Thomas 1B
5. Boston - Jim Rice, LF
6. Louisville - Dale Murphy, CF
7. Buffalo - Smokey Joe Wood, SP
8. Cleveland - Andre Dawson, RF
9. New York - Ed Reulbach, SP
10. Baltimore - Jesse Tannehill, SP
11. Washington - Craig Biggio, 2B
12. Providence -

Round 3

1. Providence -
2. Washington -
3. Baltimore -
4. New York -
5. Cleveland -
6. Buffalo -
7. Louisville -
8. Boston -
9. New Haven -
10. Newark -
11. Philadelphia -
12. Richmond -

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03-09-2005, 12:09 AM	#147
metsgeek Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Norwood, MA Posts: 5,450	JT, get ready. I sent a list to Matt. Either he or I will post it as soon as spud's time is up. __________________ Commissioner - PBRL - Just finished 2009 109 seasons and still running strong!!!

03-09-2005, 12:20 AM	#150
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	Original draft order: 1. Providence - tward13 2. Washington - jaxmagicman 3. Baltimore - Carlton 4. New York - metsgeek 5. Cleveland - ifspuds 6. Buffalo - woody5254 7. Louisville - TexasLonghorns 8. Boston - DamnYankees 9. New Haven - MogulChamp 10. Newark - jeheinz72 11. Philadelphia - canadiancreed 12. Richmond - Fallschirmjager Hall of Famers Round 1 1. Providence - Babe Ruth, RF 2. Washington - Lou Gehrig, 1B 3. Baltimore - Ty Cobb, CF 4. New York - Ted Williams, LF 5. Cleveland - Walter Johnson, SP 6. Buffalo - Rogers Hornsby, 2B 7. Louisville - Sandy Koufax, SP 8. Boston - Willie Mays, CF 9. New Haven - Christy Mathewson, SP 10. Newark - Hank Aaron, RF 11. Philadelphia - Cy Young, SP 12. Richmond - Oscar Charleston, CF All-Stars, Rd's 2-6 Round 2 1. Richmond - Ron Santo 3B 2. Philadelphia - Joe Jackson LF 3. Newark - Albert Pujols 1B 4. New Haven - Frank Thomas 1B 5. Boston - Jim Rice, LF 6. Louisville - Dale Murphy, CF 7. Buffalo - Smokey Joe Wood, SP 8. Cleveland - Andre Dawson, RF 9. New York - Ed Ruelbach, SP 10. Baltimore - 11. Washington - 12. Providence - Carlton, if you're online to make your next pick, stick around because I have lists to take me right back to your Rd 3 pick too. __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise

03-09-2005, 12:22 AM	#151
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	While we're just sitting around waiting, I'll let you know that at some point (max 10 years likely) we will add another 12 teams. So if others are interested in a team at that point, they can have one of those. __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise

03-09-2005, 12:42 AM	#154
jeheinz72 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Fresno, CA Posts: 2,163	Will we make amatuer drafts for our squads as well? __________________ Join The Dugout!

03-09-2005, 12:15 AM	#149
tward13 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,964	Go for it. Waiting for some movement here !

03-09-2005, 12:23 AM	#152
tward13 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,964	DAMN, you guys are good. I thought for SURE Reulbach was mine. Good job metsgeek

03-09-2005, 12:50 AM	#155
DamnYankees All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,644	Not to ruffle feathers, but I'd like to object (if at all possible) to the selections of Thomas and Pujols. I know it may be too late to change anything, but I think Matt needs a new rule: If you select an active player, then when you take his averages per 162 or whatever, they can't be HOF quality. Let's be honest, Albert Pujols is in the top 3 all-time First-Four-Years. It's him, Ted Williams, and Cobb, I would think. The fact is, when you import Pujols, you're importing a Half of Fame caliber player, no doubt. I don't think he belongs. As for Thomas, come on. The guy is an easy, EASY hall of famer. Had maybe the best hitting streak of 5+ years since Ted Williams. Owned the early to mid 1990s. I think we forget just how incredible he was as a hitter. As it stands now, he has 436 HR, 2113 hits, 1450 walks, and a career OBP of .429. He still has a few years left. He'll get 500 HR. He has the 11th highest OBP of all time. Come on people. Tell me one of you would not vote for Thomas to get inducted to Cooperstown. That's my two cents. Had a few minutes, figured a good rant was in order.

03-09-2005, 12:57 AM	#156
tward13 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,964	Can't necessarily disagree, but we're just going with what Matt gave us. Maybe after round two he can add more guys to the off limits list or tighten the rules.

03-09-2005, 01:07 AM	#159
tward13 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,964	Speaking of speed, when's the next pick?

03-09-2005, 01:08 AM	#160
Matt from TN Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: In a funk.... Posts: 3,413	Original draft order: 1. Providence - tward13 2. Washington - jaxmagicman 3. Baltimore - Carlton 4. New York - metsgeek 5. Cleveland - ifspuds 6. Buffalo - woody5254 7. Louisville - TexasLonghorns 8. Boston - DamnYankees 9. New Haven - MogulChamp 10. Newark - jeheinz72 11. Philadelphia - canadiancreed 12. Richmond - Fallschirmjager Hall of Famers Round 1 1. Providence - Babe Ruth, RF 2. Washington - Lou Gehrig, 1B 3. Baltimore - Ty Cobb, CF 4. New York - Ted Williams, LF 5. Cleveland - Walter Johnson, SP 6. Buffalo - Rogers Hornsby, 2B 7. Louisville - Sandy Koufax, SP 8. Boston - Willie Mays, CF 9. New Haven - Christy Mathewson, SP 10. Newark - Hank Aaron, RF 11. Philadelphia - Cy Young, SP 12. Richmond - Oscar Charleston, CF All-Stars, Rd's 2-6 Round 2 1. Richmond - Ron Santo 3B 2. Philadelphia - Joe Jackson LF 3. Newark - Albert Pujols 1B 4. New Haven - Frank Thomas 1B 5. Boston - Jim Rice, LF 6. Louisville - Dale Murphy, CF 7. Buffalo - Smokey Joe Wood, SP 8. Cleveland - Andre Dawson, RF 9. New York - Ed Reulbach, SP 10. Baltimore - Jesse Tannehill, SP 11. Washington - Craig Biggio, 2B 12. Providence - Round 3 1. Providence - 2. Washington - 3. Baltimore - 4. New York - 5. Cleveland - 6. Buffalo - 7. Louisville - 8. Boston - 9. New Haven - 10. Newark - 11. Philadelphia - 12. Richmond - __________________ Set in Stone... Players Remain with Original Franchise