New Non-HW Boxers Rated - Page 35

CONN CHRIS · 02-04-2005, 01:50 PM

Gene Bryant (file on prior page)

Austin · 02-04-2005, 02:52 PM

Could someone please post Bob Fitzsimmon's ratings for the game as a MW, LHW and HW. I seemed to have destroyed them.

Thanks,

Austin

wanderer · 02-04-2005, 03:22 PM

Bob Fitzsimmons LHW, HW
I don't have a MW version, sorry.

CONN CHRIS · 02-04-2005, 04:55 PM

MOE MOSS MW

Born - United Kingdom

4(0)-8-1

Moss fought only 13 times from 1929 to 1938. He faced some stiff competition including Freddie Mills, Tommy Martin and Billy Bird accounting for his poor record and five career stopage losses.

CONN CHRIS · 02-04-2005, 04:56 PM

MOE MOSS MW

CONN CHRIS · 02-04-2005, 09:21 PM

TAR BABY DAY (Lewis Warren) MW

Born - Jacksonville, Florida, USA

21(8)-26-3

Lewis Warren used the ring name of "Tar Baby Day". The name is obviously unacceptable by today's standards and even though Warren grew up in the South during the depression it is a surprising ring name given that he fought virtually his whole career in Europe. That aside, Day was a tough journeyman that posed a threat to any of the more talented opponents that he faced. Day was stopped once in fifty pro bouts and that came at the close of his career against Max Resch in Germany. The scrappy middleweight beat Garth Panter, Otis Graham, Sammy Walker, Dick Turpin and Albert Finch. He drew with Omar Kouidri and fought in decision losses to Robert Villemain, Fernando Jannilli, Pierre Langlois, Gustav Scholz, Charles Humez and Andre Drille. Day came home to America briefly in 1951 and 1952 where he put together a 5-2 record. Although he didn't fare as well in Europe, that was where he staged 43 of his 50 bouts.

CONN CHRIS · 02-04-2005, 09:22 PM

TAR BABY DAY (Lewis Warren) MW

CONN CHRIS · 02-04-2005, 09:37 PM

ROY BEXX MW

Hometown - Yeovil, England, UK

4(4)-5-0

Bexx was a club fighter that knocked around London and surrounding towns from 1947 to 1951. He only fought similarly situated boxers.

CONN CHRIS · 02-04-2005, 09:37 PM

ROY BEXX

CONN CHRIS · 02-04-2005, 10:07 PM

HERB BISHOP LW

Hometown - Richmond, Victoria, Australia

71(25)-46-12; 1 NC

This busy Australian fought 130 bouts over a ten year career. He won the Australian Lightweight title in 1934 with a thirteenth round knockout over Jimmy Kelso. He defended once before losing the belt to Alf Blatch the following year. Bishop lost bouts to Billy McAllister, Phil Zwick, Jack Carroll and Kid Covelli. He and Seattle transplant Tod Morgan fought eight times over a six year period with Morgan winning six, Bishop one as well as one no decision bout. Besides the handful of title bouts and Mr. Morgan, Bishop's record is littered with a parade of stiffs.

EDIT: Bishop also beat Joe Ghnouly who is rated a four. That seems like a fluke outcome to me. Ghnouly was a world away from Bishop in talent; he beat Joyce, Morgan and a number of other quality fighters. Broke Al Foreman's nose and had a title shot at WW against Armstrong. I overlooked the Ghnouly fight when I rated Bishop but I think that may be ok as the bout appears to be an outlier. Now that I have looked at Ghnouly though, that four rating looks off a bit - does anybody else have an opinion on his rating?

CONN CHRIS · 02-04-2005, 10:08 PM

Herb Bishop

thespy · 02-05-2005, 12:11 AM

Man this thread is great -- you guys have added some much needed fighters to the mix!
Has anyone worked up an Alex Cole - CW card??
If you have much thanks if you could drop it here!

CONN CHRIS · 02-05-2005, 07:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thespy

Man this thread is great -- you guys have added some much needed fighters to the mix!
Has anyone worked up an Alex Cole - CW card??
If you have much thanks if you could drop it here!

Here is Al "Ice" Cole's file and two photos. I am not certain, but I think his file may have come stock with the game. If not, then I haven't the slightest idea who created it.

Glad to have you here Spy, welcome and have fun.

Christopher

mh2365 · 02-05-2005, 08:34 AM

Chris .... He wanted a CW - Al Cole. Cole was a champ at CW, sucks at HW

CONN CHRIS · 02-05-2005, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by mh2365

Chris .... He wanted a CW - Al Cole. Cole was a champ at CW, sucks at HW

Sorry about that - at least he's got some pictures now

CONN CHRIS · 02-05-2005, 11:23 AM

Here's a quick attempt at him as a Cruiser. Probably should be higher, he was (I believe) 26-1-0 as a Cruiser, beat Grant twice. I have not tested this, maybe someone can tweak it to get it right. And mh is right, he flat out sucks as a Heavyweight. I never expected him to do much as a heavy, but who knew the extra weight would be this hard on him. Getting bounced by Sedrick Fields is an embarrasment for someone with his talent.

jofre · 02-05-2005, 01:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Austin

Could someone please post Bob Fitzsimmon's ratings for the game as a MW, LHW and HW. I seemed to have destroyed them.

Thanks,

Austin

Here is what I have in my datbase. I believe its from a few versions back, but am not sure.

jofre · 02-05-2005, 01:28 PM

Here is what I have on Joe.

CONN CHRIS · 02-05-2005, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by jofre

Here is what I have on Joe.

Thanks Jofre, that's a little closer to reality than the rating I had. I had never looked Ghnouly's record over before, he had an impressive career.

Ian Lord · 02-06-2005, 05:41 AM

Excellent work here guys.

Has anyone rated the following, all at middleweight:

Michael Nunn, Reggie Johnson, Julio Cesar Green, and Jorge Castro.

Keep up the good work,
Ian.

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thespy Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 11	Man this thread is great -- you guys have added some much needed fighters to the mix! Has anyone worked up an Alex Cole - CW card?? If you have much thanks if you could drop it here!

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Ian Lord All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Coventry, England. Posts: 1,814	Excellent work here guys. Has anyone rated the following, all at middleweight: Michael Nunn, Reggie Johnson, Julio Cesar Green, and Jorge Castro. Keep up the good work, Ian.