LOGO DESIGNERS: LOGO #2 SAN ANTONIO TEJANOS "OOTPB FAVORITES COMPILATION"

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by Treches

In short, the word Tejas (or Texas) is only one of many cases of mistaken namesakes that came from explorers not knowing the natives' language. Many Spanish speakers, wrongfully, think the word is related to Spanish 'tejas' (roof tiles), but in fact comes from a word (thecas, texias or teysas) the natives said to Alfonso de León when they met the first Spanish expedition. It sounded 'tejas' for the explorers. It meant 'friends' or 'hello, friends' and was a name that applied to those who weren't Apaches. There are plenty of cases like that, Yucatán being another (it actually meant 'I don't understand', and was what the natives said when the first Spaniards arrived to the peninsula and asked them where they were).

Treches,

Thanks for sharing this. I find it very interesting.

Since I studied a couple of languages in the Air Force and college, I have always been interested in the origins of words (etymology).

Now go to the drawing board and create one of your fine logos for this one.

[Eugene Church]

Logo designers have a Tuesday midnight deadline to get your logo/logos in for the judging.

(See the first post for exact times)

[enuttage]

And of course this spawned a whole genre of music...

Conjunto (now Tejano) was a mix of Czech-German and Mexican-Texan (Tejano) influences. Throw the eastern Euro accordian in with some guitar and drum and presto! You've got it.

Flaco Jimenez always comes to mind. He alone and with the Texas Tornados.

Great articles on it here:

http://www.ondanet.com/tejano/tejhistory.html

http://www.guadalupeculturalarts.org...ic/tcfhist.htm

Close to my home and my heart.

Have fun with it guys.

-E

[Eugene Church]

enuttage, thanks for posting the history of Tejano music.

Music is really the first love of my life...I was a dj for over 31 years...like country music, southern gospel and rock 'n' roll oldies.

I enjoy Freddie Fender and and the Texas Tornadoes, too.

You should have entered the name San Antonio Texas Tornadoes for the logo contests...it sounds like a good nickname.

[Le Grande Orange]

Well my first entry has been sent. It's a much more colourful logo than I typically do, but I'm still pleased with the results and I rather like it. Now if only I can finish my second entry by the deadline...

[jnshmoo]

Hi guys.

Sorry I was a little late getting confirmations out to some of you who sent entries. Things have been crazy over here while we prepare for inventory and trade show season. We also changed our server on friday and as a result I lost all of my bookmarks and settings and address books, etc.

Anyway, I currently have 11 entries.

I have a feeling this is going to be another tight race. We have some fantastic logos again this week.

Good Luck everyone!

[enuttage]

Sorry for my lack of timeliness, but...where can we see and vote on these things?

I've been wrapped up in some other stuff lately. Didn't catch where to vote.

-E

p.s. Eugene, I was in radio for awhile too. It's my true vocational love, but can't even come close to paying the bills, especially now with conglomeration. I started doing radio at 18 and did it on and off until I was 24 or so. Good times. Now TV pays the bills (but isn't nearly as much fun).

[Mr.Opinion]

I just entered again. Maybe this time I'll get more than one vote.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by enuttage

Sorry for my lack of timeliness, but...where can we see and vote on these things?

I've been wrapped up in some other stuff lately. Didn't catch where to vote.

-E

p.s. Eugene, I was in radio for awhile too. It's my true vocational love, but can't even come close to paying the bills, especially now with conglomeration. I started doing radio at 18 and did it on and off until I was 24 or so. Good times. Now TV pays the bills (but isn't nearly as much fun).

jnshmoo will post all of the entries sometime Wednesday on the OOTPB Main Discussions Forum and here on the Logos and Graphics Forum...there will be a poll to decide the "favorite" of all this week's entries...the poll will run for two days...then Friday jnshmoo will post all of the entries and identify the designers. Then all of the entries will be uploaded to BigCity and JoeRock's websites so they will be available for download. We hope to have a total of 20 logos done during this project. Each Friday I will post the new city and nickname for the next one to be designed...the designers have 4 days to design it...till Tuesday night deadline. Now you should be up to date.

Incidentally, this is week two...last week Cuss was the "Favorite" and the logo was for the Portland Timberjacks...This week it is the San Antonio Tejanos.

Yeah, I know what you mean about a career in radio...it was really a fun job at low pay for 20 years (I should have stayed with my good state job and I would have made a lot more money)...and then the big conglomerates (at last count Clear Channel Communications had over 1500 stations...that was my company for the last 5 years of my career) starting buying all of the mom and pop stations and there is no such thing as local ownership anymore...no such thing as a "live" show...everything is recorded on computers...sometimes days ahead of time...and no such thing as a "local" show...all of them are syndicated and "localized" for a particular city...a station used to have 5-8 jocks including weekenders....Now there may be only 1 or 2 people running a station...the rest of the airstaff is in a city elsewhere...now there is a monotonous sameness to radio that didn't use be...all stations plays the same songs...old and new...you only hear what they want you to hear...they don't play requests anymore cause there is no live jock to answer the phone...I rarely listen anymore...the FCC has sold out to Big Business in radio...and they will soon do it to TV...write you senators and representatives and tell them not to change the rules and allow them to buy up everything.

You made a wise choice not to pursue radio.

[enuttage]

Originally Posted by Eugene Church

You made a wise choice not to pursue radio.

Thanks for the rules clarification and timetable Eugene.

My 'wise choice' was also the chicken **** way out.

It was financially sound, but took no balls. I was too young to have not continued for a little while, but...I was getting married, blah, blah, blah.

In any case, you're right. I was in charge of switching over from a cart system at one radio station to total computer control.

My father-in-law used to own a station out in Miami (the number one station, actually), and had to sell it. I think it was AM/FM (now CC). He keeps in touch with his old GM/PD, and it drives him nuts that they aren't allowed to play regional music, only what comes down the pipe from corporate.

Doesn't matter though. They've shot themselves in the head with no regionalization and 12 freakin' minute stop sets.

Sirius and XM have taken the reigns and run off without them. Stern has followed. Days are numbered for free airwaves, me thinks.

Enough with my thread killing.

-E

[LivnLegend]

I'm in!

[Le Grande Orange]

I got my second entry in under the wire. Didn't have time to do my third concept, so I'll save it for the next team name to be done.

[jnshmoo]

Ok guys. Polls are forthcoming. There was a mad rush of entries at the deadline. I had a few guys offer to remove some of their entries, but if I did, we'd still be at 16 logos. So, they are all in. 19 in total.

This will be a two round voting process. Today I will post two polls. 1-9 in the first poll, and 10-19 in the second.

I'll run these polls for 1 day. If we have a turnout anything like last week, that one day should be plenty. I will then take the top 5-10 (depending on how close the race is) logos from both of the first two polls and put up a final poll tomorrow. I'll have that poll run for 2 days and then I'll post the winners on Saturday.

I've thought about how to structure the polls if it worked out this way. I'm going to stick with a standard poll this time around, but I'm thinking that if we have to do a split poll again, I might have the first round be a multiple choice poll. It seemed that in the last contest there were a lot of people who liked 2 or 3 different logos pretty well.

What is everyone's feedback on this idea? LL? Eugene?

First poll will be up in a few minutes. The second poll will go up as soon as I finish up with the great template that LGO provided.

[LivnLegend]

Sounds good! After enough people vote I think we are going to see a few logos really separate themselves from the pack. Those should make the cut for the next round. We'll probably see a definite separation from the double-digit voted logos and those that get just 3 or 4 votes, making the decision easy on which to carry over.

[LivnLegend]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

I got my second entry in under the wire. Didn't have time to do my third concept, so I'll save it for the next team name to be done.

I've got both yours picked out. Very nice work.

[Eugene Church]

Originally Posted by jnshmoo

Ok guys. Polls are forthcoming. There was a mad rush of entries at the deadline. I had a few guys offer to remove some of their entries, but if I did, we'd still be at 16 logos. So, they are all in. 19 in total.

This will be a two round voting process. Today I will post two polls. 1-9 in the first poll, and 10-19 in the second.

I'll run these polls for 1 day. If we have a turnout anything like last week, that one day should be plenty. I will then take the top 5-10 (depending on how close the race is) logos from both of the first two polls and put up a final poll tomorrow. I'll have that poll run for 2 days and then I'll post the winners on Saturday.

I've thought about how to structure the polls if it worked out this way. I'm going to stick with a standard poll this time around, but I'm thinking that if we have to do a split poll again, I might have the first round be a multiple choice poll. It seemed that in the last contest there were a lot of people who liked 2 or 3 different logos pretty well.

What is everyone's feedback on this idea? LL? Eugene?

First poll will be up in a few minutes. The second poll will go up as soon as I finish up with the great template that LGO provided.

Whatever you think...you have done an extremely fine job on the polling.

(and just between you and me...I asked LivnLegend if you would be serious enough about this project to do a good job...Good grief...how wrong I would have been...I really had to eat those words)

[jnshmoo]

Originally Posted by Eugene Church

Whatever you think...you have done an extremely fine job on the polling.

(and just between you and me...I asked LivnLegend if you would be serious enough about this project to do a good job...Good grief...how wrong I would have been...I really had to eat those words)

That's ok Eugene, I haven't been nearly as visible around here as you guys, so I can certainly understand your concern. I'm just glad that I'm able to put some work in and help out. Thanks for giving me the opportunity.

[Cuss]

thanks guys for setting it up again, it's been fun.