Time Warp Baseball

[Carlton]

No, great piece, sorry I didn't mention it

Yea, maybe Whit Sard isn't the manager Bop Vacha was...but really who is?

What do I have Ted Stuart as? my 3rd base coach?
We may see a quick change of the guard if Sard continues his harshness

[fvamos]

Great story adds some pieces to it. Hate that stretch did it against the Cards but the past few years has slowly been building a rivalry between the Phils/Cards, who knows if I can keep up my end of it but should be interesting to watch

[canadiancreed]

Originally Posted by fvamos

Great story adds some pieces to it. Hate that stretch did it against the Cards but the past few years has slowly been building a rivalry between the Phils/Cards, who knows if I can keep up my end of it but should be interesting to watch

Glad someone can. I cant give him a hard time for quite a while.

Although i'm glad taht my team was able to start winning consistently against his in the second half of the season, always a nice touch.

[canadiancreed]

> So isn't Whit Sard!

Whit just isn't as loved as Vega. My sources in Philly tell me that most fans want to see Ted made the manager.


John

Are there two Vega's in the league? Because if not, he's managing the Syrcuase Chiefs

[jdw]

> Yea, maybe Whit Sard isn't the
> manager Bop Vacha was...but really who is?

I would think The Greatest Phills Manager of All-Time is:




> What do I have Ted Stuart as? my
> 3rd base coach? We may see a quick
> change of the guard if Sard continues
> his harshness

Let Ted take over when the rebuilding is done - you don't want to stick him with any of these non-championship seasons.

Also, it will be fun to see Whit melt down in some articles next year if the team isn't leading the pack.


John

"Cardinals? The Cardinals? Don't talk to me about the Cardinals. Those guys are a bunch of jokers, and Noe can't handle the pressure. Watch them fall apart again come September."
-Phillies Manager Whit Sard off the record in July

[fvamos]

Love watching Whit become the most hated man in St. Louis. Of course that kind of behavior makes him loved/hated in Philly

[jdw]

> Love watching Whit become the
> most hated man in St. Louis. Of
> course that kind of behavior makes
> him loved/hated in Philly

I think that's the type of stuff we need to see more of. Some managers quiet and stoic, never saying something out of turn like Walter Alston. Others popping off like Leo in that era, or rambling nonsense like Casey.

And of course some cocky players too. You could see Rauch as a fiery guy who'd knock someone's block off in a bench clearing brawl.


John

[canadiancreed]

I think that's the type of stuff we need to see more of

True, havign a prsoanlity to the players and mangeres and the like would be a godo thing

[Matt from TN]

1950 Postseason

World Series Champs - St. Louis Cardinals 7th Pennant, 3rd WS Title

AL Champs - Chicago White Sox 7th Pennant


AL BOY: Ray Kress, DET, .362, 48 HR, 144 RBI - He set a new AL record for HR and won the 1st ever AL Triple Crown!!
NL BOY: Chuck Rauch, CHN, .316, 39 HR, 119 RBI

AL POY: Cotton Simson, SLA, 24-10, 2.91 ERA, 246 K, 48 BB - He set a new AL record for K's
NL POY: Scottie Allen, BSN, 20-11, 2.81 ERA, 181 K, 69 BB

AL ROY: Sal Poulos, PHA, .333, 4 HR, 52 RBI
NL ROY: Ervin Thompson, NYG, .314, 34 HR, 117 RBI

AL AVG: Ray Kress, DET, .362
NL AVG: Tom Howard, NYG, .362

AL HR: Ray Kress, DET, 48 - New AL Record!
NL HR: Ken Chaucer, BSN, 43

AL RBI: Ray Kress, DET, 144
NL RBI: Ken Chaucer, BSN, 121

AL SB: Jonny Perly, SLA, 65
NL SB: Ben Cook, STL, 66

AL ERA: Cotton Simson, SLA, 2.91
NL ERA: Scottie Allen, BSN, 2.81

AL Wins: Cotton Simson, SLA, 24
NL Wins: Scottie Allen, BSN and Bob Bussmann, PHI, 20

AL K's: Cotton Simson, SLA, 246 - New AL Record!
NL K's: John Nolting, PHI, 201

AL Saves: Billy Hyberg, BOS, 23
NL Saves: Sam Fontana, BKN, 22


Major League Records (if old record was long-standing, it's listed in parenthesis)

ML - 138 Runs, Ray Kress, DET
ML - 168 Walks, Skeeter Schaldemose, BOS
ML - 101 Games, Dale Scott, CIN
ML - 16 Rookie Saves, Oscar Villalpando, NYA

League Records

AL - 48 Homeruns, Ray Kress, DET
AL - 246 K's (Pitcher), Cotton Simson, SLA
NL - 34 Rookie Homeruns, Ervin Thompson, NYG
NL - 117 Rookie RBI, Ervin Thompson, NYG

Team Records

BOS - 84 K's (Batter), Skeeter Schaldemose

BSN - 83 Games, Ezequiel Dupree
BSN - 18 Saves, Bob Rustia
BSN - 181 K's (Pitcher), Scottie Allen
BSN - 43 Homeruns, Ken Chaucer
BSN - 23 Rookie Homeruns, Grady Fisher

BKN - 57 Games, Goose Baum

CHA - 37 Homeruns, Lonny Arrendale
CHA - 114 RBI, Lonny Arrendale
CHA - 117 Runs, Lonny Arrendale
CHA - 97 K's (Batter), Chester Munch

CHN - 39 Homeruns, Chuck Rauch
CHN - 115 Walks (Batter), Doc Barton

CIN - 16 Rookie Homeruns, Gerald Roberson

CLE - 22 Rookie Homeruns, Frank Winsett
CLE - 224 K's (Pitcher), George Kauffman
CLE - 13 K's in One Game, George Kauffman

DET - 144 RBI, Ray Kress

NYA - 57 Games, Oscar Villalpando
NYA - 18 Saves, Doyle Weaver
NYA - 238 K's (Pitcher), Carpenter Erickson
NYA - 96 K's (Batter), William Morgan

PHA - 226 K's (Pitcher), Bob Stevens
PHA - 12 K's in One Game, Bob Stevens
PHA - 33 Homeruns, Hershel Lee
PHA - 88 K's (Batter), Hershel Cooley

PHI - 14 Rookie Homeruns, Walter Davis

PIT - 196 K's (Pitcher), Ron Fleischmann

SLA - 114 RBI, Frankie Bowers
SLA - 32 Game Hitting Streak, Johnny Champagne
SLA - 65 Steals, Jonny Perly

STL - 33 Homeruns, Mike Fellner
STL - 66 Steals, Ben Cook

WSH - 86 K's (Batter), Robert Reed

Milestones

2500 Hits - Tequila Allen, BOS

2000 Hits - Jonny Perly, then with PHI

200 Wins - Randall Bray, PHI


Gold Gloves

1950 American League Winners

Pitcher: Buster Davis, SLA
Catcher: Hershel Lee, PHA - 2 straight!
First Base: Wally Cruce, WSH
Second Base: Dean Parente, WSH
Third Base: Jim Dunkel, WSH
Shortstop: Elmer Menard, SLA
Leftfield: Don Myer, BOS
Centerfield: John Young, NYA - 2 straight!
Rightfield: Chester Munch, CHA


1950 National League Winners

Pitcher: John Caffee, PIT
Catcher: Biff Betters, CIN - 2 straight!
First Base: Ben Giordano, PIT
Second Base: Herm Vardaman, PIT
Third Base: James Jones, CIN - 2 straight!
Shortstop: Billy Alexander, PHI
Leftfield: Ogden Wing, STL
Centerfield: Mark Silcox, BKN
Rightfield: George Petty, BKN


September Awards:

American League-Pitcher of the Month:
Cotton Simson (SLA)!
He had a record of 5-1 in 6 games started, with an ERA of 1.94 and 1 shutouts.

American League-Batter of the Month:
Dennis Kitterman (DET)!
He batted .476 in 82 AB, with 3 homers and 7 RBI.

National League-Pitcher of the Month:
Walt Gajan (CIN)!
He had a record of 3-0 in 3 games started, with an ERA of 0.38.

National League-Batter of the Month:
Gerald Roberson (CIN)!
He batted .326 in 89 AB, with 7 homers and 21 RBI.

[Matt from TN]

Franchise Histories

The Cards snapped the 2nd longest pennant draught in the majors by winning their 1st pennant since 1924. The longest pennant draught belongs to the Pirates, who have waited since 1912.

BLUE - Won World Series
GREEN - Won Pennant but No WS Played
BLACK - Won Pennant

Boston Red Sox - 5 Pennants, 3-2 in WS, Last Pennant (1949), Last WS Title (1945)
Most Wins 101 (1945), Most Losses 93 (1936)
Winning Seasons 14, Losing Seasons 33, .500 Seasons 4
Longest Winning Streak: 3 Seasons (1943-45, 1947-1949)
Longest Losing Streak: 12 Seasons (1906-17)
1900-10: 2-8
1911-20: 2-7-1 - 1918
1921-30: 2-5-3
1931-40: 2-8
1941-50: 6-4 - 1943, 1944, 1945, 1949
Last 10 Seasons 6-4
Last 5 Seasons 3-2

Chicago White Sox - 7 Pennants, 1-6 in WS, Last Pennant (1950), Last WS Title (1920)
Most Wins 102 (1920), Most Losses 91 (1910)
Winning Seasons 26, Losing Seasons 23
Longest Winning Streak: 9 Seasons (1913-21)
Longest Losing Streak: 9 Seasons (1904-12)
1900-10: 1-9 - 1903
1911-20: 8-2 - 1917, 1919, 1920
1921-30: 6-4 - 1930
1931-40: 5-5 - 1938
1941-50: 6-4 - 1950
Last 10 Seasons 6-4
Last 5 Seasons 4-1

Cleveland Indians - 6 Pennants, 3-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1942), Last WS Title (1942)
Most Wins 107 (1910), Most Losses 101 (1945)
Winning Seasons 22, Losing Seasons 25, .500 Seasons 3
Longest Winning Streak: 13 Seasons (1906-18)
Longest Losing Streak: 6 Seasons (1927-32)
1900-10: 6-4 - 1907, 1910
1911-20: 9-1 - 1914, 1915, 1916
1921-30: 2-8
1931-40: 3-5-2
1941-50: 2-7-1 - 1942
Last 10 Seasons 2-7-1
Last 5 Seasons 0-4-1

Detroit Tigers - 2 Pennants, 1-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1948), Last WS Win (1928)
Most Wins 102 (1948), Most Losses 96 (1941)
Winning Seasons 22, Losing Seasons 28
Longest Winning Streak: 6 Seasons (1945-Present)
Longest Losing Streak: 13 Seasons (1932-1944)
1900-10: 5-5
1911-20: 3-7
1921-30: 6-4 - 1928
1931-40: 1-9
1941-50: 6-4 - 1948
Last 10 Seasons 6-4
Last 5 Seasons 5-0

New York Yankees - 14 Pennants, 8-6 in WS, Last Pennant (1940), Last WS Win (1940)
Most Wins 103 (1923), Most Losses 95 (1946)
Winning Seasons 27, Losing Seasons 21, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 12 Seasons (1930-1941)
Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1915-21, 1943-49)
1900-10: 7-3 - 1905, 1908, 1909
1911-20: 3-7 - 1911, 1912
1921-30: 5-4-1 - 1923, 1927
1931-40: 10-0 - 1931, 1933, 1934, 1935, 1936, 1939, 1940
1941-50: 2-7-1
Last 10 Seasons 2-7-1
Last 5 Seasons 1-4

Philadelphia Athletics - 5 Pennants, 1-4 in WS, Last Pennant (1932), Last WS Title (1906)
Most Wins 98 (1929), Most Losses 97 (1917)
Winning Seasons 24, Losing Seasons 25, .500 Seasons 1
Longest Winning Streak: 9 Seasons (1925-33)
Longest Losing Streak: 10 Seasons (1912-21)
1900-10: 8-2 - 1906
1911-20: 1-9
1921-30: 8-2 - 1925, 1926, 1929
1931-40: 4-5-1 - 1932
1941-50: 3-7
Last 10 Seasons 3-7
Last 5 Seasons 1-4

St. Louis Browns - 5 Pennants, 1-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1946), Last WS Title (1922)
Most Wins 93 (1946), Most Losses 98 (1930)
Winning Seasons 19, Losing Seasons 29, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 3 Seasons (1942-1944)
Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1910-16)
1900-10: 5-5 - 1901, 1902, 1904
1911-20: 2-7-1
1921-30: 4-6 - 1922
1931-40: 4-5-1
1941-50: 4-6 - 1946
Last 10 Seasons 4-6
Last 5 Seasons 1-4

Washington Senators - 6 Pennants, 4-2 in WS, Last Pennant (1947), Last WS Title (1941)
Most Wins 93 (1941), Most Losses 94 (1950)
Winning Seasons 26, Losing Seasons 22, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 12 Seasons (1936-1947)
Longest Losing Streak: 6 Seasons (1927-32)
1900-10: 3-6-1
1911-20: 4-6 - 1913
1921-30: 5-5 - 1921, 1924
1931-40: 7-2-1 - 1937
1941-50: 7-3 - 1941, 1947
Last 10 Seasons 7-3
Last 5 Seasons 2-3



Boston Braves - 4 Pennants, 2-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1931), Last WS Title (1931)
Most Wins 105 (1928), Most Losses 102 (1915)
Winning Seasons 18, Losing Seasons 29, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 9 Seasons (1930-1938)
Longest Losing Streak: 14 Seasons (1914-27)
1900-10: 6-4 - 1904, 1910
1911-20: 1-9
1921-30: 2-8 - 1928
1931-40: 8-1-1 - 1931
1941-50: 2-7-1
Last 10 Seasons 2-7-1
Last 5 Seasons 2-2-1

Brooklyn Dodgers - 7 Pennants, 4-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1943), Last WS Title (1943)
Most Wins 94 (1943), Most Losses 94 (1927)
Winning Seasons 29, Losing Seasons 18, .500 Seasons 2
Longest Winning Streak: 13 Seasons (1934-46)
Longest Losing Streak: 4 Seasons (1903-06)
1900-10: 3-7
1911-20: 7-2-1 - 1919
1921-30: 7-3 - 1926
1931-40: 7-2-1 - 1934, 1935, 1939, 1940
1941-50: 6-4 - 1943
Last 10 Seasons 6-4
Last 5 Seasons 1-4

Chicago Cubs - 6 Pennants, 3-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1938), Last WS Title (1938)
Most Wins 101 (1938), Most Losses 97 (1925)
Winning Seasons 28, Losing Seasons 22
Longest Winning Streak: 14 Seasons (1901-14)
Longest Losing Streak: 8 Seasons (1943-Present)
1900-10: 10-0 - 1905
1911-20: 7-3 - 1913, 1917
1921-30: 3-7
1931-40: 7-3 - 1936, 1937, 1938
1941-50: 1-9
Last 10 Seasons 1-9
Last 5 Seasons 0-5

Cincinnati Reds - 2 Pennants, 1-1 in WS, Last Pennant (1947), Last WS Title (1947)
Most Wins 92 (1927), Most Losses 95 (1906)
Winning Seasons 25, Losing Seasons 24, .500 Seasons 1
Longest Winning Streak: 11 Seasons (1913-23)
Longest Losing Streak: 10 Seasons (1933-42)
1900-10: 5-5
1911-20: 9-1 - 1920
1921-30: 4-6
1931-40: 2-8
1941-50: 5-4-1 - 1947
Last 10 Seasons 5-4-1
Last 5 Seasons 2-2-1

New York Giants - 7 Pennants, 2-5 in WS, Last Pennant (1944), Last WS Title (1921)
Most Wins 95 (1944), Most Losses 97 (1929)
Winning Seasons 22, Losing Seasons 24, .500 Seasons 4
Longest Winning Streak: 6 Seasons (1918-23)
Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1908-14)
1900-10: 1-8-1 - 1907
1911-20: 5-5 - 1918
1921-30: 5-5 - 1921, 1922
1931-40: 5-3-2
1941-50: 6-3-1 - 1941, 1942, 1944
Last 10 Seasons 6-3-1
Last 5 Seasons 2-3

Philadelphia Phillies - 13 Pennants, 9-2 in WS, Last Pennant (1949), Last WS Title (1949)
Most Wins 104 (1949), Most Losses 98 (1938)
Winning Seasons 26, Losing Seasons 21, .500 Seasons 3
Longest Winning Streak: 12 Seasons (1924-1935)
Longest Losing Streak: 9 Seasons (1915-23)
1900-10: 7-2-1 - 1901, 1902, 1903
1911-20: 1-9
1921-30: 7-3 - 1925, 1927, 1929, 1930
1931-40: 5-4-1 - 1932, 1933
1941-50: 6-3-1 - 1945, 1946, 1948, 1949
Last 10 Seasons 6-4-1
Last 5 Seasons 5-0

Pittsburgh Pirates - 4 Pennants, 1-3 in WS, Last Pennant (1912), Last WS Win (1909)
Most Wins 92 (1908), Most Losses 103 (1928)
Winning Seasons 14, Losing Seasons 35, .500 Seasons 1
Longest Winning Streak: 5 Seasons (1908-12)
Longest Losing Streak: 7 Seasons (1913-19, 1931-1937)
1900-10: 4-6 - 1908, 1909
1911-20: 2-8 - 1911, 1912
1921-30: 2-7-1
1931-40: 2-8
1941-50: 3-7
Last 10 Seasons 3-7
Last 5 Seasons 1-4

St. Louis Cardinals - 7 Pennants, 3-4 in WS, Last Pennant (1950), Last WS Win (1950)
Most Wins 103 (1915), Most Losses 99 (1936)
Winning Seasons 25, Losing Seasons 21, .500 Seasons 3
Longest Winning Streak: 5 Seasons (1914-18, 1921-25, 1946-Present)
Longest Losing Streak: 10 Seasons (1930-39)
1900-10: 3-6-1 - 1906
1911-20: 6-2-2 - 1914, 1915, 1916
1921-30: 8-2 - 1923, 1924
1931-40: 1-9
1941-50: 8-2 - 1950
Last 10 Seasons 8-2
Last 5 Seasons 5-0


Last Pennant:

1912 - PIT
1931 - BSN
1932 - PHA
1938 - CHN
1940 - NYA
1942 - CLE
1943 - BKN
1944 - NYG
1946 - SLA
1947 - WSH, CIN
1948 - DET
1949 - BOS, PHI
1950 - CHA, STL

Last World Series Championship:

1906 - PHA
1909 - PIT
1920 - CHA
1921 - NYG
1922 - SLA
1928 - DET
1931 - BSN
1938 - CHN
1940 - NYA
1941 - WSH
1942 - CLE
1943 - BKN
1945 - BOS
1947 - CIN
1949 - PHI
1950 - STL

[canadiancreed]

National League-Pitcher of the Month:
Walt Gajan (CIN)!
He had a record of 3-0 in 3 games started, with an ERA of 0.38.

ok who saw this one coming! A waiver pickup winning player of the month? Give Roy Mills coach of the year consideraton for that one

[pat]

Thank God, Cotton is not robbed by the POY.

[Vris]

Braves now have the second longest drought in winning a pennant. Too bad we probably won't win one before getting ousted out of town.

[canadiancreed]

well you've got three years to go

[jdw]

> Thank God, Cotton is not
> robbed by the POY.

Cotton was monsterous down the stretch after the mid-year hiccup.

He's interesting as far as chasing milestones. He's 35 all season, and has 227 wins in hand. Let's say he averages 20 a season from the age of 35-36-37. that takes him to 287, which isn't far to "limp" home to 300 wins. He could do it.

If he doesn't, we have a long ways to go for a 300 winners (age in parans):

260 - B. Finley (38)
227 - B. Simson (35)
209 - J. Arsenault (37)
203 - R. Bray (39)
190 - B. Crowell (38)
145 - Kyle Stevens (35)
144 - S. Allen (35)
142 - J. Mosich (38)
137 - A. Shipley (33)
131 - E. Boyd (38)
124 - J. Nolting (30)
120 - H. Andrew (30)
120 - C. Frays (38)
103 - J. Schoonover (28)
101 - E. Faulkner (31)
99 - W. Gustafson (38)
91 - B. Greenberg (37)
91 - E. Sprecher (31)
90 - C. Lustgarten (31)
89 - D. Volpe (36)
87 - D. Allen (32)
85 - C. Stell (34)
68 - J. Gordley (36)
66 - R. Wolfe (29)
65 - J. Bajofer (32)

The next candidates down from him would be Nolting and Andrew, who are 30 this season.


John

[Vris]

Yea Scottie definitely bloomed too late to get in that discussion. 200 isn't out of the question though for him.

[jdw]

> Yea Scottie definitely bloomed
> too late to get in that discussion.
> 200 isn't out of the question
> though for him.

200 is possible if they score runs for him. You look at those 45 games he won from 1946-48 and sort of worry. A big injury would be a killer.

Shipley should get past 200 as well. Couple of year younger, he's still an excellent pitcher, and the Cards have a strong core to their team (Wing, Fellner, Dunk, Cook, Tito Jr.) that should score runs for him. They have a few players that will need to be replaced in the next couple of years (Morton Chamblee right now since he retired, Stoller in a while, though his glove is so strong it might keep him in the line-up even as his glove fades to a lower level). But this is a team that will be good for the balance of Shipley's prime, so he should pretty consistently get 15-20 wins for the next 4 years (age 33-36), which would put him over.

Crowell still can pitch, so he might have 10 wins left in him. He might be a good Emberling for some team - get popped in the rotation at a key moment and pick up some wins. Hell, he did that last year for the A's... and it's quite possible that the Tigers yanking him from the rotation and going in another direction cost them the two games they finished behind the White Sox. The Tigers love of GB pitchers, and dislike of FB pitchers, seems to have missed the boat on why Crowell was so successful in his two seasons in Tiger Stadium - Monster Movement reduces the Long Ball *regardless* of whether you're a groundball pitcher or a flyball pitcher. 3 HR and 8 HR in his two full seasons in Detroit, even as an old goat. Last year, despite pitching in two dinger parks and being an even older goat, he gave up just 12 in 199 IP. Jack Boe for the Tigers, despite a better GB factor, gave up 14 in 155 IP.

I'm digressing... but I want to make the point.

Wolfe, with a 61 GB rate, gave up 30 in 312 IP. Andrew, with a 31 GB rate, gave up 28 in 301 IP. The other difference between those pitchers? Wolfe has a 5 Movement, while Andrew has a 7 Movement.

You can pitch perfectly will in Tiger Stadium and avoid a monsterous number of HR (as in the 40 range in 300 IP) if you have great movement.

Boe and the 4-5 movement is going to get taken deep in Tiger Stadium, and his 5 control is going to be walking folks unlike Wolfe.

If the Tigers want to get back to 1948 levels *and sustain* it, they need what they had then - a wily vet like Crowell with that killer Movement, strong Control... and screw whether he's a FB or GB pitcher. We've discussed over on the TWB boards that the Tigers OF is wildly underrated when it comes to defense anyway.

There was a 34 year old pitcher on that list above that fits that bill, Goose. 34-35-36-37 years old... at least four years sitting there next to Andrew, Ulrich and Wolfe. You don't think that rotation wouldn't fit nicely with your offense?

But I digress.

Nolting and Andrew are the top candidates lower on the list. Andrew is winning at a higher rate at the moment, and pitching with a better offense at his back, with that offense pretty much at its prime. Nolting's team is rebuilding, especially the offense which looks a few years away. They are very close in terms of quality at the moment, though Nolting maxes out better. Andrew looks like the better odds at 300 wins *right now*, but those odds could change very fast if the Phils rebuild to their former levels, and the Tigers fall off.

Schoonover is a surprise. He became a fulltime starter at the age of 19 and won the ROY in 1941. He missed a year and a half to the War. He's never really had a big year, though he could have in 1949 if the team had a better offense in support of him. He's sort of plugged away to get here. He's not as strong of a pitcher as many of the others on the list, but he's solid to the point that he should go beyond 200 fairly easy if he pitchers for decent teams.

Faulkner pitches with a strong offense at his back. Even with an off year last season, he bagged 18 wins. He lost three years to the war, and he already are a very good pitcher before heading off. Should get well past 200 wins, but 300 seems.

Ulrich of the Tigers isn't on the list with 34 wins at the age of 26 this season. I would tag him as one of the better 300 candidates among the pitchers not on the Active Leaderboard. His biggest problem is that he will hit his prime *after* the Tigers offense reaches its prime, so the stars don't perfectly align for him. 25+ win seasons potential if the stars had aligned.


John

[tward13]

Schoonover is strange. He's got the ratings to be a good pitcher, he's got an offense behind him to give enough support. His team's defense has been a problem at times. but after all that he'll just go out and pitch like crap some years and like an ace other years. And this is a guy with a Normal consistency rating. Toughest thing for him is being a flyball pitcher in the Polo Grounds. I guess some years those FB go to CF and other years they go down the line. He SHOULD have a winning career record and he should have more than 103 wins. Now that he has his control pretty much, well, under control, he could be primed to run off several good seasons. I can easily see him winning 200.

[DamnYankees]

Something cool I just noticed.

In 1950, Yankees minor leaguer Denny Caneer hit 65 Home Runs. 57 in AAA, 8 in AA. While it's not quite up to the level of Joe Baumann, it may be even more impressive considering the lack of power in the TWB world.

Is this the minor league HR record?

[Matt from TN]

Originally Posted by DamnYankees

Is this the minor league HR record?

Most likely, but we'll know for sure once I run catobase.