New 3D jersey and pants tutorial provided by Jorin from OOTP - Page 3

cephasjames · 04-27-2022, 04:25 PM

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Originally Posted by silvam14

Just to update, they dropped the _d from the file names. You still need to use the _n for normal maps

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Missed that. Thanks!

MikeS369 · 04-28-2022, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by cephasjames

"Bump maps" aren't used in-game. The game uses "diffused maps" (_d) and "normal maps" (_n). "Bump maps" are used to create "normal maps" with programs like Materialize.

Old habit of mine calling normal maps bump maps.

micropterus58 · 04-29-2022, 01:15 PM

According to Wikipedia normal maps are a type of bump map. They both seem to do similar effects. For those that want to read about this. Maybe this will clear things up or totally confuse you.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_mapping
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_mapping

Deft · 04-30-2022, 09:21 AM

Normal maps do not work at all for me. I have followed all directions, put into jerseys layer and tried both with the beta option "_d.png" and the patch option ".png". What am I doing wrong?

silvam14 · 04-30-2022, 10:19 AM

Normal maps need to be .png. Simple as that?

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Deft · 04-30-2022, 11:39 AM

No, I fixed the normal map and redid it. Same result. Can anyone try my files on your computer?

silvam14 · 04-30-2022, 12:05 PM

Well, I opened your normal map jpg file and saved it as a png and it works. Pretty sureyou didn't switch the option in materialize to save as png.

Deft · 04-30-2022, 02:10 PM

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Originally Posted by silvam14

Well, I opened your normal map jpg file and saved it as a png and it works. Pretty sure you didn't switch the option in materialize to save as png.

Weird! When I am in the team logos, colors, and uniforms screen the normal map is not initially loaded. But if I go to a player page and go back to the team logos, colors, and uniforms screen it works!

cephasjames · 04-30-2022, 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Deft

Normal maps do not work at all for me. I have followed all directions, put into jerseys layer and tried both with the beta option "_d.png" and the patch option ".png". What am I doing wrong?

Your normal map, for whatever reason, is 511x1022 rather than 512x1024. That could be why it's not loading.

cephasjames · 04-30-2022, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Deft

Weird! When I am in the team logos, colors, and uniforms screen the normal map is not initially loaded. But if I go to a player page and go back to the team logos, colors, and uniforms screen it works!

I have the same issue. I have to leave the team logos, colors, and uniforms screen and then come back to it in order to see the normal map on the model.

txranger · 04-30-2022, 05:57 PM

I have never seen the Normal map in the team logos, colors, and uniforms screen... Am I missing something on how to view this?

silvam14 · 04-30-2022, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by txranger

I have never seen the Normal map in the team logos, colors, and uniforms screen... Am I missing something on how to view this?

It’s not very prevalent in the 3D model, but you can see some features. Look at my braves uniforms. You can see the nameplate bumped out a little on the jersey

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cephasjames · 04-30-2022, 06:50 PM

It's a bit disappointing how little it shows up on the 3D model. Looks great in the profile pics though.

eriqjaffe · 05-02-2022, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by txranger

I have never seen the Normal map in the team logos, colors, and uniforms screen... Am I missing something on how to view this?

It also gets hidden from view when you're selecting the jersey file.

MikeS369 · 05-04-2022, 09:17 PM

So it seem the key is to toggle in and out of the uniform screen after making changes?

cephasjames · 05-04-2022, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by MikeS369

So it seem the key is to toggle in and out of the uniform screen after making changes?

That seems to be the way to get detail from the normal map to show up on the 3D model, yes.

twins_34 · 05-30-2022, 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by eriqjaffe

It also gets hidden from view when you're selecting the jersey file.

Any youtube videos in how to use your uniform maker?

eriqjaffe · 05-31-2022, 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by twins_34

Any youtube videos in how to use your uniform maker?

Not that I am aware of. At the least, I haven't made any.

Isedelyod · 05-31-2022, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by twins_34

Any youtube videos in how to use your uniform maker?

Once you have it downloaded, super user-friendly! Won't take long to figure it out.

reds1 · 08-13-2022, 08:12 PM

I'm having problems with Materialize. I have it set to .png and maya, it's not located in my programs folder but yet it will not open the height_map.png file for me to convert. Or at least I cannot see anything being opened. And the options to create or save on the normal map menu are greyed out.

Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Could it still be a Windows permission issue?

04-30-2022, 09:21 AM	#44
Deft All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,111	Normal maps do not work at all for me. I have followed all directions, put into jerseys layer and tried both with the beta option "_d.png" and the patch option ".png". What am I doing wrong? Attached Images __________________ ATHL Louisville Jockeys (2001-present) 2002, 2007, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2020 World Champions Uniform Template 1.2

04-30-2022, 10:19 AM	#45
silvam14 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Dedham, MA Posts: 9,927	Normal maps need to be .png. Simple as that? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Senior "Nancy Boy" of the OOTP Boards _______________________________________________

04-30-2022, 11:39 AM	#46
Deft All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,111	No, I fixed the normal map and redid it. Same result. Can anyone try my files on your computer? Attached Images __________________ ATHL Louisville Jockeys (2001-present) 2002, 2007, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2020 World Champions Uniform Template 1.2

04-30-2022, 12:05 PM	#47
silvam14 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Dedham, MA Posts: 9,927	Well, I opened your normal map jpg file and saved it as a png and it works. Pretty sureyou didn't switch the option in materialize to save as png. Attached Images __________________ Senior "Nancy Boy" of the OOTP Boards _______________________________________________

04-30-2022, 05:57 PM	#51
txranger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: "Deep in the Heart Of" Posts: 8,325	I have never seen the Normal map in the team logos, colors, and uniforms screen... Am I missing something on how to view this? __________________

04-29-2022, 01:15 PM	#43
micropterus58 All Star Starter Join Date: May 2007 Location: Connecticut Posts: 1,223	According to Wikipedia normal maps are a type of bump map. They both seem to do similar effects. For those that want to read about this. Maybe this will clear things up or totally confuse you. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Normal_mapping https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bump_mapping

04-30-2022, 06:50 PM	#53
cephasjames Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 8,736	It's a bit disappointing how little it shows up on the 3D model. Looks great in the profile pics though. __________________ 5000+ Generic Logos Free for the Taking FREE: Uniforms and logos for 500+ teams spanning 1871-present Great Lakes League: 10 Conferences, 100 Teams Pre-OOTP 23 Custom Cap & Jersey Template v3.0 by Deft and NoPepper (with layers from other various artists) that I use: Caps, Jerseys

05-04-2022, 09:17 PM	#55
MikeS369 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2020 Location: USA Posts: 653	So it seem the key is to toggle in and out of the uniform screen after making changes?

08-13-2022, 08:12 PM	#60
reds1 Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Winnipeg Posts: 3,927	I'm having problems with Materialize. I have it set to .png and maya, it's not located in my programs folder but yet it will not open the height_map.png file for me to convert. Or at least I cannot see anything being opened. And the options to create or save on the normal map menu are greyed out. Not sure what I'm doing wrong. Could it still be a Windows permission issue? __________________ United Leagues of Braeland