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sianews · 03-13-2002, 12:53 PM

If OOTP had the HH interface it would be superior to everything. Things I'd like to see:

* Make the transaction screen similar to HH, where only 2 levels are show, but stats take up the rest of the room.

* In league standings have the ability to change the year from the screen rather then scroll though the league history.

* A "reccomend" button in the trading system.

* And MOST IMPORTANTLY, minor league career stats.

MetsRon2002 · 03-13-2002, 12:59 PM

High Heat costs the same as OOTP4 and High Heat has major leagues rosters.

Maybe OOPT4 makers can contact High Heat and combine forces to create the Ultimate baseball game!

Scott Vibert · 03-13-2002, 01:06 PM

The last thing I'd like to see would be Markus giving up control of the project. Even if you collaborate with someone you give up some measure of control.

Example: Front Office Football, EA Sports got Jim on board, produced one decent but buggy game, refused to allow any patches (from Jim and didn't release any themselves), and essentially killed off the franchise, releasing the typical EA Sports roster patch as a new version this year.

There is still much room for improvement with OOTP and I'd rather see someone with as good a track record for support and improving the game as Markus remain in control of the project rather than letting a faceless company like 3DO or EA get their hands on it.

Edit - It should be noted that I am by NO means an expert on the entire EA/FOF situation, that is just my general impression of how that went down.

[ March 13, 2002: Message edited by: ScottVib ]

Mike D · 03-13-2002, 01:06 PM

Just caues it costs the same doesn't make it a good game. High Heat is bad, crashes way too often and isn't worth more than a coaster to set my drinks on. Maybe the charge the same cause nobody would want to pay more than that for an awful game the last couple of years. I was a loyal HH'er, but now, I don't waste my time.

Draft Dodger · 03-13-2002, 02:16 PM

My Top 10 Guesses for what the big announcement is...

10. There's a cheat code in OOTP4 to allow you to play in "big head" mode

9. All OOTP4 beta testers are being sent a lovely Merlin Olsen "Thank You" bouquet.

8. All Smiley Faces will be removed from this board because they make us look too effeminate.

7. Ruben Rivera stole all of Markus's source code and sold it on e-bay.

6. Blind Jerry is neither blind, nor named Jerry.

5. Markus is really that smart guy who wrote Linux.

4. Steve invented the internet with Al Gore.

3. Draft Dodger has been invited to join the OOL.

2. ViaTech has sold all of our credit card numbers to some guy in the Bronx named "Bruno".

1. Shakira is going to become the official spokesperson for OOTP5.

inverarity · 03-13-2002, 02:35 PM

[quote]High Heat costs the same as OOTP4 and High Heat has major leagues rosters.<hr></blockquote>

Just an FYI, HH2003 for PC is $49.99 on ebgames.com

---------------

[quote] OOTP4 is awesome at running a ballclub, financialy, very poor at developing players and building from within.<hr></blockquote>

I've found it to be just the opposite - if I wanted to be nitpicky, I could find some inaccuracies w/ the financial part, but the developing players is stellar, imo. Unless you're the Yankees, Mets, Braves, Dodgers, Orioles, you almost have to develop from within.

Just my 2 cents, everyone is entitled to their opinion.

Also, now that I've gone fictional, I don't know if I can ever go back. I've shed my bias'es and am managing a much smarter team now.

Scott Vibert · 03-13-2002, 02:39 PM

[quote]Originally posted by inverarity:

Also, now that I've gone fictional, I don't know if I can ever go back. I've shed my bias'es and am managing a much smarter team now.<hr></blockquote>

Once you've gone fictional you never go back....

McSweeny · 03-13-2002, 02:40 PM

[quote]1. Shakira is going to become the official spokesperson for OOTP5 <hr></blockquote>

One can only hope

Steve Kuffrey · 03-13-2002, 02:42 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Draft Dodger:
My Top 10 Guesses for what the big announcement is...

10. There's a cheat code in OOTP4 to allow you to play in "big head" mode

9. All OOTP4 beta testers are being sent a lovely Merlin Olsen "Thank You" bouquet.

8. All Smiley Faces will be removed from this board because they make us look too effeminate.

7. Ruben Rivera stole all of Markus's source code and sold it on e-bay.

6. Blind Jerry is neither blind, nor named Jerry.

5. Markus is really that smart guy who wrote Linux.

4. Steve invented the internet with Al Gore.

3. Draft Dodger has been invited to join the OOL.

2. ViaTech has sold all of our credit card numbers to some guy in the Bronx named "Bruno".

1. Shakira is going to become the official spokesperson for OOTP5.<hr></blockquote>

DD,

Number 1 sounds good to me

but not sure what my wife would think of it.

One request, PLEASE don't mention A.Bore and myself in the same lifetime much less sentence.

[ March 13, 2002: Message edited by: OOTP1 ]

Scott Vibert · 03-13-2002, 02:51 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Draft Dodger:
My Top 10 Guesses for what the big announcement is...

10. There's a cheat code in OOTP4 to allow you to play in "big head" mode
I can neither confirm nor deny this..

9. All OOTP4 beta testers are being sent a lovely Merlin Olsen "Thank You" bouquet.
Nope we're getting OOTP4 Boxers

8. All Smiley Faces will be removed from this board because they make us look too effeminate.
Nope just you DD

My smilies look manly.

7. Ruben Rivera stole all of Markus's source code and sold it on e-bay.

for $25 dollars what a steal....

6. Blind Jerry is neither blind, nor named Jerry.

Hey that's actually true...

5. Markus is really that smart guy who wrote Linux.
When he was 6

4. Steve invented the internet with Al Gore.

Apparently not.

3. Draft Dodger has been invited to join the OOL.

Nope leagues full (last I heard)

2. ViaTech has sold all of our credit card numbers to some guy in the Bronx named "Bruno".

Bruno got the Ruben Rivera rate and got them all for 2500.

1. Shakira is going to become the official spokesperson for OOTP5.
Whereever, whenever... were meant to be together, you know I inspired that.

<hr></blockquote>

Obviously my replies are mostly false. I want to know just as badly as the rest of you.

SoxWin · 03-13-2002, 02:53 PM

Markus is going to be coding that John simulator Marioh dreamed up.

Carve it in Stone, Sharon Stone.

Cheers

Rich

AngelinOF · 03-13-2002, 03:05 PM

"Just an FYI, HH2003 for PC is $49.99 on ebgames.com"

Inverarity, look a little closer, HH2k3 is $49.99 for the PS2 like all playstation games but its $29.99 for the PC.

Vida Blue · 03-13-2002, 03:08 PM

sheesh

MetsRon2002 · 03-13-2002, 03:28 PM

Mike D - HOw long ago have you played High Heat baseball? It is the BEST graphical baseball ever to come out for the PC since front page sports baseball!

High Heat has everything except the financial model of OOTP4.

Inverarity - How do you develop players in OOTP4 if the minor league stats are erased at the end of the year? it is alot of trouble and clicking to develop players, High Heat has a screen to gets top player stats for minors and majors. Awesome for finding a gem and hoping he blossoms.

Hope OOTP4 incorporates the minors better in future versions.

Psicosis · 03-13-2002, 03:47 PM

One other thing you could kiss goodbye with an MLB license - drunken players being hurt in bar room brawls. Noooooooooooo!

[quote]Inverarity - How do you develop players in OOTP4 if the minor league stats are erased at the end of the year? it is alot of trouble and clicking to develop players, High Heat has a screen to gets top player stats for minors and majors. Awesome for finding a gem and hoping he blossoms.<hr></blockquote>I agree that it would be much better if we could see their yearly stats in the various levels of the minors, or even a career/current year comparison, but to say it's impossible to develop players is just flat-out wrong. Try looking at the batting/pitching talent, read the scout's description, and even judging regarding their performance during the current season.

JML · 03-13-2002, 03:51 PM

[quote]Originally posted by Psicosis:
Try looking at the batting/pitching talent, read the scout's description, and even judging regarding their performance during the current season.<hr></blockquote>

not to mention that you can print to file or paper the minor league stats at the end of each season. Do an SS if you want to go that far. That goes for all other reports too. I plan on doing that for my fictional league with minor stats, situationals, etc.

Steve Kuffrey · 03-13-2002, 03:58 PM

For minor league stats I believe that Pierre's csv reporter will export them and they can be imported, besides I know I have played HH since THE first version and the minor league stats really don't show much, if anything about a player. Better just to take a shot in the dark w/ HH.

MetsRon2002 · 03-13-2002, 04:09 PM

OK, there is no reason to knock High Heat, this is an excellent game. I have worked the minors and developed players to bring up. It is realistic in the fact that there are players that are great in A and AA, then flunk at AAA.

The AI sucked in High Heat as the computer was putting 18 and 19 year olds straight to AAA and they bombed bad. I was able to get these players off of free agency and develop them properly.

So lets not say things negative about High Heat that are not true.

Now, how can I print a stat sheet at the end of the year for the minor leagues in OOTP? This may be a workaround.

JML · 03-13-2002, 04:10 PM

go to team news and reports--> minor league report. at the bottom are options to print to file, printer, or as an HTML.

[ March 13, 2002: Message edited by: JML ]

Steve Kuffrey · 03-13-2002, 04:12 PM

I really wasn't trying to knock HH, I like the game. I wouldn't get it every year if I didn't, I guess it is just ashamed that they don't put more time and effort into it and really help it to fulfill the potential that it has.

To print the minor league stats go to team reports, minor league report, then you can "print to text file", just make sure when you type in a name for the file end it with the file extension ".txt" and then you can print it from within windows or keep it as a text file on your PC.

03-13-2002, 01:06 PM	#43
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,209	The last thing I'd like to see would be Markus giving up control of the project. Even if you collaborate with someone you give up some measure of control. Example: Front Office Football, EA Sports got Jim on board, produced one decent but buggy game, refused to allow any patches (from Jim and didn't release any themselves), and essentially killed off the franchise, releasing the typical EA Sports roster patch as a new version this year. There is still much room for improvement with OOTP and I'd rather see someone with as good a track record for support and improving the game as Markus remain in control of the project rather than letting a faceless company like 3DO or EA get their hands on it. Edit - It should be noted that I am by NO means an expert on the entire EA/FOF situation, that is just my general impression of how that went down. [ March 13, 2002: Message edited by: ScottVib ]</p>

03-13-2002, 01:06 PM	#44
Mike D Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In a van, down by the river Posts: 2,802	Just caues it costs the same doesn't make it a good game. High Heat is bad, crashes way too often and isn't worth more than a coaster to set my drinks on. Maybe the charge the same cause nobody would want to pay more than that for an awful game the last couple of years. I was a loyal HH'er, but now, I don't waste my time. __________________ Sometimes the best laid plans will never get you laid the way you plan.

03-13-2002, 02:16 PM	#45
Draft Dodger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: formerly of the OTBL Posts: 4,113	My Top 10 Guesses for what the big announcement is... 10. There's a cheat code in OOTP4 to allow you to play in "big head" mode 9. All OOTP4 beta testers are being sent a lovely Merlin Olsen "Thank You" bouquet. 8. All Smiley Faces will be removed from this board because they make us look too effeminate. 7. Ruben Rivera stole all of Markus's source code and sold it on e-bay. 6. Blind Jerry is neither blind, nor named Jerry. 5. Markus is really that smart guy who wrote Linux. 4. Steve invented the internet with Al Gore. 3. Draft Dodger has been invited to join the OOL. 2. ViaTech has sold all of our credit card numbers to some guy in the Bronx named "Bruno". 1. Shakira is going to become the official spokesperson for OOTP5. __________________ Draft Dodger (Anarchy: Anything goes. The Draft Dodger viewpoint.) Sophmoric[sic] Member of the OOTP Boards (It's not OOTP; it's your computer) 15 GB Webhosting for $6.95 a month IMO we are best off abandoning that sinking ship that is Off Topic to the rats infesting it and just starting a whole new Baseball Forum from scratch.

03-13-2002, 02:39 PM	#47
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,209	[quote]Originally posted by inverarity: <strong> Also, now that I've gone fictional, I don't know if I can ever go back. I've shed my bias'es and am managing a much smarter team now.</strong><hr></blockquote> Once you've gone fictional you never go back....

03-13-2002, 02:42 PM	#49
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,023	[quote]Originally posted by Draft Dodger: <strong>My Top 10 Guesses for what the big announcement is... 10. There's a cheat code in OOTP4 to allow you to play in "big head" mode 9. All OOTP4 beta testers are being sent a lovely Merlin Olsen "Thank You" bouquet. 8. All Smiley Faces will be removed from this board because they make us look too effeminate. 7. Ruben Rivera stole all of Markus's source code and sold it on e-bay. 6. Blind Jerry is neither blind, nor named Jerry. 5. Markus is really that smart guy who wrote Linux. 4. Steve invented the internet with Al Gore. 3. Draft Dodger has been invited to join the OOL. 2. ViaTech has sold all of our credit card numbers to some guy in the Bronx named "Bruno". 1. Shakira is going to become the official spokesperson for OOTP5.</strong><hr></blockquote> DD, Number 1 sounds good to me but not sure what my wife would think of it. One request, PLEASE don't mention A.Bore and myself in the same lifetime much less sentence. [ March 13, 2002: Message edited by: OOTP1 ]</p> __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

03-13-2002, 12:53 PM	#41
sianews Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 77	If OOTP had the HH interface it would be superior to everything. Things I'd like to see: * Make the transaction screen similar to HH, where only 2 levels are show, but stats take up the rest of the room. * In league standings have the ability to change the year from the screen rather then scroll though the league history. * A "reccomend" button in the trading system. * And MOST IMPORTANTLY, minor league career stats.

03-13-2002, 12:59 PM	#42
MetsRon2002 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: USA Posts: 28	High Heat costs the same as OOTP4 and High Heat has major leagues rosters. Maybe OOPT4 makers can contact High Heat and combine forces to create the Ultimate baseball game!

03-13-2002, 02:35 PM	#46
inverarity Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 95	[quote]High Heat costs the same as OOTP4 and High Heat has major leagues rosters.<hr></blockquote> Just an FYI, HH2003 for PC is $49.99 on ebgames.com --------------- [quote] OOTP4 is awesome at running a ballclub, financialy, very poor at developing players and building from within.<hr></blockquote> I've found it to be just the opposite - if I wanted to be nitpicky, I could find some inaccuracies w/ the financial part, but the developing players is stellar, imo. Unless you're the Yankees, Mets, Braves, Dodgers, Orioles, you almost have to develop from within. Just my 2 cents, everyone is entitled to their opinion. Also, now that I've gone fictional, I don't know if I can ever go back. I've shed my bias'es and am managing a much smarter team now.

03-13-2002, 02:40 PM	#48
McSweeny Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Boston, MA Posts: 53	[quote]1. Shakira is going to become the official spokesperson for OOTP5 <hr></blockquote> One can only hope

03-13-2002, 02:51 PM	#50
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,209	[quote]Originally posted by Draft Dodger: <strong>My Top 10 Guesses for what the big announcement is... 10. There's a cheat code in OOTP4 to allow you to play in "big head" mode</strong> I can neither confirm nor deny this.. <strong> 9. All OOTP4 beta testers are being sent a lovely Merlin Olsen "Thank You" bouquet.</strong> Nope we're getting OOTP4 Boxers <strong> 8. All Smiley Faces will be removed from this board because they make us look too effeminate.</strong> Nope just you DD My smilies look manly. <strong> 7. Ruben Rivera stole all of Markus's source code and sold it on e-bay. </strong> for $25 dollars what a steal.... <strong> 6. Blind Jerry is neither blind, nor named Jerry. </strong> Hey that's actually true... <strong> 5. Markus is really that smart guy who wrote Linux.</strong> When he was 6 <strong> 4. Steve invented the internet with Al Gore. </strong> Apparently not. <strong> 3. Draft Dodger has been invited to join the OOL. </strong> Nope leagues full (last I heard) <strong> 2. ViaTech has sold all of our credit card numbers to some guy in the Bronx named "Bruno". </strong> Bruno got the Ruben Rivera rate and got them all for 2500. <strong> 1. Shakira is going to become the official spokesperson for OOTP5.</strong> Whereever, whenever... were meant to be together, you know I inspired that. <hr></blockquote> Obviously my replies are mostly false. I want to know just as badly as the rest of you.

03-13-2002, 02:53 PM	#51
SoxWin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Blissful ignorance Posts: 3,315	Markus is going to be coding that John simulator Marioh dreamed up. Carve it in Stone, Sharon Stone. Cheers Rich __________________ It's called partying. When you do a lot of it, you're bound to be places where the police show up. I smoke a lot of pot and drink a lot of beer. I also graduated Suma Cum Laude. ****ing sue me. - Luis Rivera

03-13-2002, 03:05 PM	#52
AngelinOF All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,353	"Just an FYI, HH2003 for PC is $49.99 on ebgames.com" Inverarity, look a little closer, HH2k3 is $49.99 for the PS2 like all playstation games but its $29.99 for the PC.

03-13-2002, 03:08 PM	#53
Vida Blue Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Greater Reich of Ontario Posts: 324	sheesh __________________ "The only way I'm going to get a Gold Glove is with a can of spray paint." - Reggie Jackson

03-13-2002, 03:28 PM	#54
MetsRon2002 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: USA Posts: 28	Mike D - HOw long ago have you played High Heat baseball? It is the BEST graphical baseball ever to come out for the PC since front page sports baseball! High Heat has everything except the financial model of OOTP4. Inverarity - How do you develop players in OOTP4 if the minor league stats are erased at the end of the year? it is alot of trouble and clicking to develop players, High Heat has a screen to gets top player stats for minors and majors. Awesome for finding a gem and hoping he blossoms. Hope OOTP4 incorporates the minors better in future versions.

03-13-2002, 03:47 PM	#55
Psicosis Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Memphis, TN Posts: 228	One other thing you could kiss goodbye with an MLB license - drunken players being hurt in bar room brawls. Noooooooooooo! [quote]Inverarity - How do you develop players in OOTP4 if the minor league stats are erased at the end of the year? it is alot of trouble and clicking to develop players, High Heat has a screen to gets top player stats for minors and majors. Awesome for finding a gem and hoping he blossoms.<hr></blockquote>I agree that it would be much better if we could see their yearly stats in the various levels of the minors, or even a career/current year comparison, but to say it's impossible to develop players is just flat-out wrong. Try looking at the batting/pitching talent, read the scout's description, and even judging regarding their performance during the current season.

03-13-2002, 03:51 PM	#56
JML Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The act or process of locating. Posts: 2,154	[quote]Originally posted by Psicosis: <strong>Try looking at the batting/pitching talent, read the scout's description, and even judging regarding their performance during the current season.</strong><hr></blockquote> not to mention that you can print to file or paper the minor league stats at the end of each season. Do an SS if you want to go that far. That goes for all other reports too. I plan on doing that for my fictional league with minor stats, situationals, etc.

03-13-2002, 03:58 PM	#57
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,023	For minor league stats I believe that Pierre's csv reporter will export them and they can be imported, besides I know I have played HH since THE first version and the minor league stats really don't show much, if anything about a player. Better just to take a shot in the dark w/ HH. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

03-13-2002, 04:09 PM	#58
MetsRon2002 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: USA Posts: 28	OK, there is no reason to knock High Heat, this is an excellent game. I have worked the minors and developed players to bring up. It is realistic in the fact that there are players that are great in A and AA, then flunk at AAA. The AI sucked in High Heat as the computer was putting 18 and 19 year olds straight to AAA and they bombed bad. I was able to get these players off of free agency and develop them properly. So lets not say things negative about High Heat that are not true. Now, how can I print a stat sheet at the end of the year for the minor leagues in OOTP? This may be a workaround.

03-13-2002, 04:10 PM	#59
JML Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: The act or process of locating. Posts: 2,154	go to team news and reports--> minor league report. at the bottom are options to print to file, printer, or as an HTML. [ March 13, 2002: Message edited by: JML ]</p>

03-13-2002, 04:12 PM	#60
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,023	I really wasn't trying to knock HH, I like the game. I wouldn't get it every year if I didn't, I guess it is just ashamed that they don't put more time and effort into it and really help it to fulfill the potential that it has. To print the minor league stats go to team reports, minor league report, then you can "print to text file", just make sure when you type in a name for the file end it with the file extension ".txt" and then you can print it from within windows or keep it as a text file on your PC. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95