What is the popular opinion on these issues?

RBLwebguy · 11-22-2003, 05:02 PM

When considering joining online leagues, what are your thoughts on the following items?

1. Coaches - On or Off?

2. Sim frequency - Everyday or 2-3 sims (1-2 weeks worth of sims) a week?

3. Webpage design and look - Important to have a sharp website with articles?

4. Use of forum - Important to see frequent postings?

Just looking for popular opinion here. What else do you look ofr when joining a league?

Delgadodawg · 11-22-2003, 05:28 PM

My personal preferences:

Coaches: Off
Sims: 3 sims a week all one week long
Website: Not to picky, I like to see articles change farily regularily though
Forum: I think a good active forum is an important part of a succesful league

Randall · 11-22-2003, 05:58 PM

1. Coaches - Off?

2. Sim frequency - 3 sims (2 weeks worth of sims) a week?

3. Webpage design and look - Nice to have a decent website, but activity much more important

4. Use of forum - Important to see frequent postings DURING reg season

kq76 · 11-22-2003, 06:11 PM

1. Coaches - Off

2. Sim frequency - 3 sims (1 week of league time per) a week

3. Webpage design and look - clean, not flashy, lots of content

4. Use of forum - Very important to see frequent postings

Things you missed:

-a commish, and others, with good reps
-a number of seasons under the league's belt
-fictional (not real players/teams)

Lubby · 11-22-2003, 06:42 PM

Hey guys! Just wondered why you all would rather have 3 sims a week rather then one sim a day? Our league sims one series per day and I love it, I have a hard time following a league that doesn't sim often, especially if it is inconsistent.

Greg

clarnzz · 11-22-2003, 06:44 PM

I don't think I would join a league that used scouts. The rest is negotiable for me.

kq76 · 11-22-2003, 06:54 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by CWBLCommish
Hey guys! Just wondered why you all would rather have 3 sims a week rather then one sim a day? Our league sims one series per day and I love it, I have a hard time following a league that doesn't sim often, especially if it is inconsistent.

Greg

Because it's nice to know that you have a day off. It's relatively easy to find a few minutes within 48 hours to download the latest update and submit your export. But if you had to do it everyday it is more likely to start feeling like a burden. Sometimes I wish there was another sim a week, but more than not I'm pleased that I don't have another one. Plus all the extra work for the commish, yikes!

clarnzz · 11-22-2003, 06:58 PM

I offered to sim M-F, a week each day, and the league voted almost unanimously for 3 days a week instead.

I also play in MLBr though and that league sims a M-F, a month of games every day and enjoy that too...

skkrrt · 11-22-2003, 07:53 PM

At first I liked the 3 days per sim, every day......but it moves slow... and you have to check on things constantly (remember, we do have lives)..

So I like about 3 weeks simed per real week (3 sims, 1 week per).....

giants · 11-22-2003, 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RBLwebguy
When considering joining online leagues, what are your thoughts on the following items?

1. Coaches - On or Off?

2. Sim frequency - Everyday or 2-3 sims (1-2 weeks worth of sims) a week?

3. Webpage design and look - Important to have a sharp website with articles?

4. Use of forum - Important to see frequent postings?

Just looking for popular opinion here. What else do you look ofr when joining a league?

1. Off, but don't care that much.
2. 2-3 gives time to trade.
3. no. Just don't need a newspaper.
4. yes, i want to be updated.

Aussie Mark · 11-23-2003, 02:01 AM

1. Off. Having to worry about signing coaches is a pain in the a$$ for no real benefit
2. 2-3 is good
3. No, I could live with a website that just has the OOTP html, and owner list and a forum
4. Not necessarily, but most owners should visit regularly

messenjah · 11-23-2003, 02:19 AM

1) I didn't think I would, but I love coaches off. They really just seem a nuisance to me.
2) I like them slow. I did like the idea of one game a day, but I know a lot of people don't like that. I don't like doing more than one week in one sim though, I think that is two fast. Two to four sims a week is about the max I could do.
3) I've noticed that I and a lot of other people are drawn to a better website. It is not necessary, but it makes it a lot more fun if the website looks sharp.
4) A easily accesible, no pop-up forum is a must for me. I really can't stand pop-ups and so if the forum had pop-ups, it would kill me. The easier it is to see new articles and the more features the better.

pat · 11-23-2003, 04:08 AM

1. off
2. 2-3 is fine..
3. i like to read some articles and its cool if there's a good website..
4. yeah frequent posting is a big help.. u just know that ur league is still alive..

Lubby · 11-23-2003, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by skkrrt
At first I liked the 3 days per sim, every day......but it moves slow... and you have to check on things constantly (remember, we do have lives)..

So I like about 3 weeks simed per real week (3 sims, 1 week per).....

Simming a series (usually 3 games) works out to 3 weaks per real week.

Karen Lutz · 11-23-2003, 02:41 PM

My world revolves around the WBL (In my sig) so I base my preferences on it:

Coaches: Off
Sims: 4 sims a week all one week long (WBL)
Website: Website is a first impression for me, I like it to be good, but it isnt the be all end all
Forum: "A well informed league is a happy league, as long as I keep posting something relivant and fun to read, they have a reason to drop by"-WBL Commish

CommishJoe · 11-23-2003, 03:18 PM

Coaches Off

3 Sims a week .. alternate 7 and 8 day sims so a DL stint is exactly 2 sims. 7 day sims stretch the DL from 15 to 21 days since the 15th day is the 1st one in the next sim.

Website .. Nice to have but even a crappy one works as long as you can find the information you need

Forum activity .. pretty important. The more active the owners, the more real the league really feels. The USBL (ran from June 99 - sometime in 2001 with HH2k and 2k1) was the best at that. I was so into that league that I was watching a MLB Yankees - Mets game and I had to wonder when DET traded Piazza to the Mets (USBL DET had Piazza).

holyroller · 11-23-2003, 04:20 PM

Well, I run two leagues so I will use them both for my response.

Coaches: On with scouts all rated brilliant (PWBL), Off (OTBL)
Sims: 3 sims of seven days a week (PWBL), 3 live sims of 15 days a week (OTBL)
Website: Well, I coded them both so they both suck. Content over style and even that is not a high priority.
Forum: An extremely active forum with nearly every owner contributing by writing notes and articles about the league. Amazing level of participation. (PWBL) An extremely active forum with nearly every owner talking about just about everything other than the league. (OTBL)

Both leagues are great fun for me and the rest of the owners. They are also about as different as night and day.

messenjah · 11-23-2003, 07:08 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Karen Lutz
My world revolves around the WBL (In my sig) so I base my preferences on it:

Coaches: Off
Sims: 4 sims a week all one week long (WBL)
Website: Website is a first impression for me, I like it to be good, but it isnt the be all end all
Forum: "A well informed league is a happy league, as long as I keep posting something relivant and fun to read, they have a reason to drop by"-WBL Commish

Yeah, mad props to the WBL, home of the dominating Yankees. This is definitely the best league I've been in. You guys should all check it out, great league with a bunch of very active GM's.

sporr · 11-24-2003, 10:42 AM

Here's what I look for:

1. Coaches - Off - there's no good reason to use them for an online league in their present state.

2. Sim frequency - 3 sims (1-2 weeks worth of sims) a week - many of us are in multiple leagues, so it's cool if you can find leagues that sim on opposite days since you'll always have something to look at each day.

3. Webpage design and look - The website is what makes the impression on people. If the site can give the information that's easy to find, all the better. Through the use of unique articles on the front page, you can really give the league a real feel to it.

4. Use of forum - The forum is an important place to give out information to other league members or for them to post articles about their team. Most leagues will go through some ups and downs with forum activity.

Karen Lutz · 11-24-2003, 10:48 AM

so far, results on this are pretty much as expected...... similar if not the same. Makes me wonder why any leagues still use coaches? - as Sporr says, useless!

11-22-2003, 05:02 PM	#1
RBLwebguy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canuckistan Posts: 5,162	What is the popular opinion on these issues? When considering joining online leagues, what are your thoughts on the following items? 1. Coaches - On or Off? 2. Sim frequency - Everyday or 2-3 sims (1-2 weeks worth of sims) a week? 3. Webpage design and look - Important to have a sharp website with articles? 4. Use of forum - Important to see frequent postings? Just looking for popular opinion here. What else do you look ofr when joining a league?

11-22-2003, 05:58 PM	#3
Randall Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: VA Posts: 321	1. Coaches - Off? 2. Sim frequency - 3 sims (2 weeks worth of sims) a week? 3. Webpage design and look - Nice to have a decent website, but activity much more important 4. Use of forum - Important to see frequent postings DURING reg season __________________ Randall FORT - Atlanta Braves CPL - Pittsburg Pirates Formerly NABL - Philadelphia Phillies Formerly GMC - Vasto Rangers Formerly NBA - Atlanta Braves - 1973 Champ Formerly ThePBL - Anaheim Angels - 1975 Champ

11-22-2003, 06:11 PM	#4
kq76 Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 11,994	Re: What is the popular opinion on these issues? 1. Coaches - Off 2. Sim frequency - 3 sims (1 week of league time per) a week 3. Webpage design and look - clean, not flashy, lots of content 4. Use of forum - Very important to see frequent postings Things you missed: -a commish, and others, with good reps -a number of seasons under the league's belt -fictional (not real players/teams) __________________ My OOTP Wishlist \| My FAQ List OOTP Wiki \| Your Recommended Team Nicknames, By City (A Crowdsourced Project) For Beta/Devs: Full screen (1920x1080)

11-22-2003, 07:53 PM	#9
skkrrt Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 410	At first I liked the 3 days per sim, every day......but it moves slow... and you have to check on things constantly (remember, we do have lives).. So I like about 3 weeks simed per real week (3 sims, 1 week per)..... __________________ Tiger of the Week: Nate Robertson-3rd in the AL in strikeouts (24).

11-23-2003, 02:01 AM	#11
Aussie Mark Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Downunder Posts: 489	1. Off. Having to worry about signing coaches is a pain in the a$$ for no real benefit 2. 2-3 is good 3. No, I could live with a website that just has the OOTP html, and owner list and a forum 4. Not necessarily, but most owners should visit regularly __________________ Cheers Mark

11-22-2003, 05:28 PM	#2
Delgadodawg All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Vancouver Posts: 800	My personal preferences: Coaches: Off Sims: 3 sims a week all one week long Website: Not to picky, I like to see articles change farily regularily though Forum: I think a good active forum is an important part of a succesful league

11-22-2003, 06:42 PM	#5
Lubby Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Parry Sound Posts: 184	Hey guys! Just wondered why you all would rather have 3 sims a week rather then one sim a day? Our league sims one series per day and I love it, I have a hard time following a league that doesn't sim often, especially if it is inconsistent. Greg

11-22-2003, 06:44 PM	#6
clarnzz All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Following everyone off a cliff. Posts: 1,522	I don't think I would join a league that used scouts. The rest is negotiable for me.

11-22-2003, 06:58 PM	#8
clarnzz All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Following everyone off a cliff. Posts: 1,522	I offered to sim M-F, a week each day, and the league voted almost unanimously for 3 days a week instead. I also play in MLBr though and that league sims a M-F, a month of games every day and enjoy that too...

11-23-2003, 02:19 AM	#12
messenjah All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Washington State Posts: 565	1) I didn't think I would, but I love coaches off. They really just seem a nuisance to me. 2) I like them slow. I did like the idea of one game a day, but I know a lot of people don't like that. I don't like doing more than one week in one sim though, I think that is two fast. Two to four sims a week is about the max I could do. 3) I've noticed that I and a lot of other people are drawn to a better website. It is not necessary, but it makes it a lot more fun if the website looks sharp. 4) A easily accesible, no pop-up forum is a must for me. I really can't stand pop-ups and so if the forum had pop-ups, it would kill me. The easier it is to see new articles and the more features the better.

11-23-2003, 04:08 AM	#13
pat Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Quezon City, Philippines Posts: 2,748	1. off 2. 2-3 is fine.. 3. i like to read some articles and its cool if there's a good website.. 4. yeah frequent posting is a big help.. u just know that ur league is still alive.. __________________ Co-Founder & Technical Director at ExaWeb Corporation, an SEO company in the Philippines. Previous Leagues - Time Warp Baseball / International Federation of Baseball / Professional Baseball Replay League / No Pepper Baseball League / MLB Pro Current OOTP 24 Leagues - Sim Sports Gaming - (2016-Present) Washington Nationals (2016-2022) *2017 Champions Oakland Athletics (2023-Present)

11-23-2003, 02:41 PM	#15
Karen Lutz Ball Breaker Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada OOTPChampionships: 5 Posts: 898	My world revolves around the WBL (In my sig) so I base my preferences on it: Coaches: Off Sims: 4 sims a week all one week long (WBL) Website: Website is a first impression for me, I like it to be good, but it isnt the be all end all Forum: "A well informed league is a happy league, as long as I keep posting something relivant and fun to read, they have a reason to drop by"-WBL Commish

11-23-2003, 03:18 PM	#16
CommishJoe Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,238	Coaches Off 3 Sims a week .. alternate 7 and 8 day sims so a DL stint is exactly 2 sims. 7 day sims stretch the DL from 15 to 21 days since the 15th day is the 1st one in the next sim. Website .. Nice to have but even a crappy one works as long as you can find the information you need Forum activity .. pretty important. The more active the owners, the more real the league really feels. The USBL (ran from June 99 - sometime in 2001 with HH2k and 2k1) was the best at that. I was so into that league that I was watching a MLB Yankees - Mets game and I had to wonder when DET traded Piazza to the Mets (USBL DET had Piazza). __________________ Joe Success isn’t owned. It’s leased. And rent is due every day.

11-23-2003, 04:20 PM	#17
holyroller Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OTBL Forums Posts: 3,532	Well, I run two leagues so I will use them both for my response. Coaches: On with scouts all rated brilliant (PWBL), Off (OTBL) Sims: 3 sims of seven days a week (PWBL), 3 live sims of 15 days a week (OTBL) Website: Well, I coded them both so they both suck. Content over style and even that is not a high priority. Forum: An extremely active forum with nearly every owner contributing by writing notes and articles about the league. Amazing level of participation. (PWBL) An extremely active forum with nearly every owner talking about just about everything other than the league. (OTBL) Both leagues are great fun for me and the rest of the owners. They are also about as different as night and day. __________________ Back to work, but not drawing a paycheck. TonyJ et. al.'s alias “I confused it with the chicken’s neck,” Mocanu, who was admitted to the emergency hospital in Galati, was quoted as saying. “I cut it ... and the dog rushed and ate it.”

11-24-2003, 10:42 AM	#19
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	Here's what I look for: 1. Coaches - Off - there's no good reason to use them for an online league in their present state. 2. Sim frequency - 3 sims (1-2 weeks worth of sims) a week - many of us are in multiple leagues, so it's cool if you can find leagues that sim on opposite days since you'll always have something to look at each day. 3. Webpage design and look - The website is what makes the impression on people. If the site can give the information that's easy to find, all the better. Through the use of unique articles on the front page, you can really give the league a real feel to it. 4. Use of forum - The forum is an important place to give out information to other league members or for them to post articles about their team. Most leagues will go through some ups and downs with forum activity.

11-24-2003, 10:48 AM	#20
Karen Lutz Ball Breaker Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Canada OOTPChampionships: 5 Posts: 898	so far, results on this are pretty much as expected...... similar if not the same. Makes me wonder why any leagues still use coaches? - as Sporr says, useless!