Injuries

[henderson80]

Just today I started simming as 1980 Yankees and just before the season started I got hit with an injury notice Lou Piniella suffered a slipped disk and will be out for 2 months.What luck.

[Noone_Uknow]

Just a casual observation....I have yet to see a CEI in 17. I've seen several injuries where the player will be out for the year, but none of the dreaded CEI.

Has the injury profile been change in 17?

[wolverinebball11]

Originally Posted by Noone_Uknow

Just a casual observation....I have yet to see a CEI in 17. I've seen several injuries where the player will be out for the year, but none of the dreaded CEI.

Has the injury profile been change in 17?

I forget where I saw it, but yes it's been changed so there aren't as many CEI's now.

[actionjackson]

Originally Posted by wolverinebball11

I forget where I saw it, but yes it's been changed so there aren't as many CEI's now.

Hmm, that's strange because there are just as many CEIs in the injuries.txt file this year. I wonder what's changed?

[Syd Thrift]

Originally Posted by actionjackson

Hmm, that's strange because there are just as many CEIs in the injuries.txt file this year. I wonder what's changed?

CEIs were never determined by the number of entries in injuries.txt. Basically, the way it works is that the game first determines if there's a CEI and then looks in the text file to see which one it should use for the particular type of injury that occurred. If (and only if) there are *no* entries for a particular injury for the type that occurred (by which I mean "injured being hit by a pitch" or "injured while fielding the ball", etc.) then it either ignores the injury or changes it to something else.

That meant that the only way you could/can actually reduce the rate of CEIs in the game without reducing them to zero was by, for example, eliminating all CEIs that occur from fielding. It's not terribly granular and the data nerd part of me would definitely like to see the ability to set rates on this and on the other injuries as well.

[actionjackson]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

CEIs were never determined by the number of entries in injuries.txt. Basically, the way it works is that the game first determines if there's a CEI and then looks in the text file to see which one it should use for the particular type of injury that occurred. If (and only if) there are *no* entries for a particular injury for the type that occurred (by which I mean "injured being hit by a pitch" or "injured while fielding the ball", etc.) then it either ignores the injury or changes it to something else.

That meant that the only way you could/can actually reduce the rate of CEIs in the game without reducing them to zero was by, for example, eliminating all CEIs that occur from fielding. It's not terribly granular and the data nerd part of me would definitely like to see the ability to set rates on this and on the other injuries as well.

I just change the 1s to 0s in the Career Ending Possible Bool column in the injuries.txt file. Guys still have career enders, but usually after they've spent some time trying to get back and suffered a few setbacks. For me, that's as it should be.

[wolverinebball11]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

CEI's are tweaked in OOTP 17 and happen less often compared to OOTP 16.

From here

I knew I had seen it somewhere.

[Syd Thrift]

Originally Posted by actionjackson

I just change the 1s to 0s in the Career Ending Possible Bool column in the injuries.txt file. Guys still have career enders, but usually after they've spent some time trying to get back and suffered a few setbacks. For me, that's as it should be.

IMO there should still be flat-out career ending injuries - Ray Chapman and Mickey Cochrane come to mind - but yeah, for the majority of what we see I think your way is better.

FWIW I flipped over to 17 with an existing league on Friday and I *think* I saw a CEI happen to my kind-of-Honus Wagner (I'm doing a fictional historical league that I started in 1893 and I like to create and track the superduperstars). I'm not 100% sure if it happened in 17 vs 16 though and in any case the plural of anecdote is not data (FWIW I undid his injury and then in an attempt to appease the OOTP injury gods I made the next major injury to a star player in the league career ending).

[Markus Heinsohn]

Straight CEI are now extremely rare in OOTP 17. They do happen however if someone has multiple setbacks, for example after Tommy John surgery.