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Old 11-22-2005, 09:59 AM   #661
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I have been working on a couple new websites, so I have put the AU on the back burner, holding off releasing the new version, as I still have not perfected the PBP.

However, I went today and did a quick mod.

First, let me explain what a guy.txt file is. One of my functions creates a nice game by game report for any player. It shows every game, ever line score for the guy, pitcher or hitter. It color codes if he was player of the game, had a hitting streak, winning streak, injury or was ejected.

It is a very nice looking report for the players, allowing you to see his year history in a nice layout.

However, it does this by going through every box score, one by one. But, it does it rather quickly. It takes about 10 seconds to go through a whole season of box scores and tabulate the data. No problem. But, times that by 3000 players and we now have a long routine. Problem is, it takes just as long to do a guy that played everyday, than one that just played in 1 game.

Now, you can do one player at a time if you want or you can do the whole league. For online leagues, to do this at the end of the season, or even at the 1/2 point or 1/4 report, it is not really that bad. Since you can click it and go watch ESPN while it does it's thing. Your online league will REALLY appreciate this type of report.

So, now the guy file. It was created because of a league I ran. Myself and 12 other guys follow the careers of 'their' players. So, I have those 13 players in the guy file. I click it and it just creates a gbg for each of those guys and also a nice html menu to view the guys. It has worked flawless for me.

To add a guy to the list, it is very easy. Go to config and click on modify guy list and you will see a list of all the teams. Click on a team and you get a list of all the players. Click on a name and he is thrown in the list on the right of guys. Add as many as you want, click their name on the right to remove them. Save it and move on.

So, now I added a new button. Create a guy list from the leaderboard. Well, I made a mistake. I did not use the top 10 leaderboard, I used the top 5 leaderboard, which includes all of the past leaders in the entire history of the league. Oops. Hey, wait. That is not so bad of an idea. Sure, it will have a lot of guys that are retired, but that does not slow the program down any when it runs, as it just checks this list for names. So, I let it be.

It is cool as beans, as it has the 'leaders of the league' in this.

Now to add a button to do a 'whole team'. And what else... hmmmm..
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Old 11-22-2005, 10:10 AM   #662
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Is there a way to find out all-time team leaders? For instance, if I want to know who hit the most home runs for Atlanta in a career, or had the highest batting average in a season, or maybe even strikeouts in a game? Anything like that available?
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Old 11-22-2005, 11:10 AM   #663
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Yes and No. 1st, in the OOTP game, in the record book there are team records. So you can see what those records are for individual season.

But for career, there is not. The problem is the way OOTP saves the stats. It you look at a players stats when he was traded mid season, all of the stats just show up for the last team that he was on. So any split season, the only way to figure it out would be to go game by game and see what team he was on. I may do that one day.

But, if you run the HOF LIST in the players section, a comma seperated file is created in the RETIRED PLAYERS folder.

It creates a list like this:
Jason Lingerfelt,1965,154,518,143,31,2,9,67,78,99,0,3,81 ,1,1,.276,.390,.396,.786,,ORL
Jason Lingerfelt,1966,101,276,68,12,2,1,28,33,40,2,0,65, 2,1,.246,.346,.315,.661,ORL

You could load this file into excel and sort by the last column and get a pretty good picture, unless the guy was traded mid season.

It is a flaw in the game design that can really screw up some stats. Let's say you trade a guy at the allstar game that had 30 homeruns. Well, your team total now has 30 less homeruns, so the page that shows they are in 5th place in HRS is wrong. It is off by 30.

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Is there a way to find out all-time team leaders? For instance, if I want to know who hit the most home runs for Atlanta in a career, or had the highest batting average in a season, or maybe even strikeouts in a game? Anything like that available?
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Old 11-23-2005, 08:21 PM   #664
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Happy Thanksgiving to everyone.

One of my favorite routines is one that gives you a detailed history of the player that is color coded, as in this example:

http://www.sim2005.com/1970/LA_HIS_L...nderson_I.html

However, in my 100 year simulation, we rename players and my program does not like that. The reason is this: Lets say a new guy comes up in 1965. His name is Joe Smith. In 1967, I rename him to Jim Kiss. Some parts of my program will not see anything before the renaming as him.

Example. When you index, if finds Joe Smith in 1965 with a p#### of 1000. It looks in 1966 at player #1000 and sees that it is Joe Smith. So, it assumes it is the same guy. Now it looks in 1967, but player 1000 is now Jim Kiss. So, it assumes that Joe Smith has retired. Not too many problems now though, but since this guy was a #1 draft, it will show Joe Smith and not Jim Kiss as #1 draft. Most of my functions will still work, but the one mentioned above will not.

What would be perfect, if when you rename it in OOTP, if it would go back and rename all of the references to Joe Smith to Jim Kiss. This would solve a lot of headache. I do not anticipate a patch anytime soon to do that, so I have to figure out a way.

At first I thought I could write a search and replace option to do this. But then I thought, you know, I bet there are a ton of free programs to do this for me. So far, I have not found any, but I just started searching. I did find one for 25 bucks, but the shareware worked, nicely, but only did 5 at a time, so I had to keep re-opening the program and do it again to do the above sample. Once I changed them all, my routine worked fine.

But, anyways, I think I may go ahead and write the routine, as I would not have to check every single file. I would only have to check the team prospects, leaderboard, teamsheets, etc. I would have to check the box scores and pbp, if they existed. Even search through them all, it would be no big deal. The big deal would be backing up the files before this was done. If you used it to search for HTML and replace it with SMITH, you are going to have a mess. The also only big problem is the actual HTML player files. It lists the name twice on there, once as Jim Smith and the other as Jim "Horseface" Smith. The search would have to be able to find that. No problem there, as I already do that. I can easily remove the nickname, and put it back. The other problems are for instance in the box scores, it shows J. Smith instead of Jim Smith. What if there is a Joe Smith? Well, no real problem, as if there is a link with the name, then I can check to see if it is player 1000. So, as you can see, it is not 'that easy'.

The other MAJOR problem is John Smith. What happens if there is two John Smiths. Well, the only way I could make it work is to have it display a smidgeon of the page, so you could determine if it is indeed the player you want to change. So, the routine would have to search and maybe show you something like this:

Found 'JIM SMITH is drafted by Baltimore and signed for bla....", Team23.html

With a link to open that HTML page. Once you view it, you can then click REPLACE and poof, it does. Also, there would be a BACKUP button there, so you could back that file up before hand (unless you had clicked BACKUP ALL)

The backup would be a folder you designate, and inside it would be a ALMANAC folder that I would create. Inside it would be all the folders/files that were replaced. So, it would be easy to restore things back to the way they were.

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Old 11-23-2005, 09:37 PM   #665
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I put it in a long time ago!!

Here is an example from my 40 year old league...

http://www.sim2005.com/1970/LA_all_team.html
Thanks. That's great. Just a question: why as a HTML and not a page in OOP?
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Old 11-23-2005, 10:43 PM   #666
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Because the program displays a LAUNCH HTML page when it is created. The color coding is very important part of this display and that is not so easy to do inside the program.
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Old 11-23-2005, 11:08 PM   #667
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Ok, thanks for the info, though.

Maybe another interesting information, would be to have a list with the teams with the most World Series wins, Division Titles etc...sometimes in a big league it's just hard to keep track and figure out who the "Yankees" in your league are. Just a thought.
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Actually, it does give you a display in the program with more information, like the scouts rating year to year, as shown:



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Ok, thanks for the info, though.

Maybe another interesting information, would be to have a list with the teams with the most World Series wins, Division Titles etc...sometimes in a big league it's just hard to keep track and figure out who the "Yankees" in your league are. Just a thought.
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But I meant for teams, something like:

Orlando 10 World Series wins
Miami 9 World Series wins
Boston 5 World Series wins

And another list for division titles
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I already do that. In a couple places.

When you click on a team in TEAMS, it shows that, plus how many world series they lost, plus division titles and total wins/losses for the whole franchise. Also, when you run the HTML report, it creates this:

http://www.sim2005.com/1970/LA_teamINDEX.html

Click on any team and scroll to the bottom, you will see this:

Wins: 2429 Losses: 2264 Division Titles: 9
World Series Wins: 3 World Series Losses: 1

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But I meant for teams, something like:

Orlando 10 World Series wins
Miami 9 World Series wins
Boston 5 World Series wins

And another list for division titles
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If you mean one sheet that shows all the teams with their WS wins, etc....

Hmmm.. not easy.. but possible.. maybe... added it to a brain cell for future reference
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If you mean one sheet that shows all the teams with their WS wins, etc....

Hmmm.. not easy.. but possible.. maybe... added it to a brain cell for future reference
Yeah, that's what I mean. That would be great, to see which teams really suck and which dominated in your league.
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Could not sleep, so I redesigned the LAINDEX page.

http://www.sim2005.com/1970/laindex.htm

Attached is it, just copy it to the installation folder. Also copy it to your league folder, my program should do that for you, but what they heck, let it rest a little.
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There is something I have wanted to add for a long time, but it just seemed a little hard to do, so I borrowed some Oxycontin from my landlord and figured it out. (Just kidding).

I did figure out a way to do what I want, even if it is not going to be easy. I think it is cool.

OK, if you run a simulation for a whole season, you sit back and watch the standings battle. It is fun to watch the teams battle for the division lead. Well, once the season is over, that is it. You can't see that battle again. Well, that is what I wanted to do.

So, picture this. You get a layout of the standing sheet on the screen. Each team in it's own division. I figure I would have the following information:

Team Name - Wins - Losses - PCT - GB - M#

Maybe even have the current winning or losing streak and also the longest streak. Why not even team batting average, team ERA, HRS, whatever else I can think of...

OK, you click go.. and it starts going through the box scores, and updates the standing sheet. You can then see the battle. There would be a delay, and a FASTER and SLOWER button and a PAUSE button. Maybe even a snapshot button to take a picture of it.

Well, so far I have it working on one division. I still have to do the G.B. math and if I add the team BA, figure out a way to do that, but, it will work. This is going to be pretty cool.

Now, this is going to create a few more bits of information that I can now figure out. Things like:

Biggest Lead, days in 1st place, break it down into months, so you could see a standing sheet for all the games that took place in June only. It would also keep track for each team 'what was the most games you were out of 1st', it could then easily tell you that your division winner was once 15 games out of 1st.

See the fun? I want to be able to do the same thing for online stuff, but I am not sure if I can do that. I could do it if I assumed everyone had a server that supported .ASP, as I could create dynamic pages that could read the data off the server. (My server supports it, and I would think that most do, but that will come later.)

I just can't quit this stuff, can I?
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Bumping from page 3, for the sake of the utility.
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just some questions assuming this is still being worked on:

does this software extract directly from the game itself, or does it read the almanac files?

does it have to be at the end of the season in order to process like CATO, or can it be run at any time (assuming ti extracts from the game that is)
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See...it needs a sticky
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Yes and no. A little bit of both, depending on what you are doing. It reads all historical stuff from the almanac, so if you did not save the P files, it won't tell you much on some stuff. Some of the other stuff is pulled from the ONLINE LEAGUE REPORT folder, which has to be ran, even if it is not an online league. Reason: The latest player HTML files are not available unless you do that.

The indexing should be ran at the PROCEED TO THE NEXT SEASON prompt, but, it does not hurt to run it at any other time, but it can just be ran one time during each season. So, if you run it at the start of the season, you will not have access to players 'created' after that point, until next season.

The stuff on the current season, like play by play, team stuff, etc., can be ran at anytime.

When you index, it finds players that have retired. It copies them to the retired players folder and then other parts of my program access these files, like the career post season or the top 10 leaders, etc.

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just some questions assuming this is still being worked on:

does this software extract directly from the game itself, or does it read the almanac files?

does it have to be at the end of the season in order to process like CATO, or can it be run at any time (assuming ti extracts from the game that is)
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I actually have been working on the program, fine tuning things, and adding some minor things. I have been side railed working on some stuff that puts that green stuff in my pocket. I also had a hard drive crash, while not losing the code, I lost some of my components. One that I use for grids was on the hard drive. When I downloaded it again, it was a new version and so I had to remove that grid. Some parts have to be recoded.

I also am having problems creating the installation package again, that is why I have not released any new versions. Don't worry, this program won't go away, even if the won't give me a stickey.
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