MLB 2023 Season - Page 54

Le Grande Orange · 10-02-2023, 01:56 PM

There were three teams which finished 2023 with 100+ wins and four teams which finished with 100+ losses.

Is that the first time that has happened?

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Originally Posted by cephasjames

Miami's seeding will not change no matter what they do, so the result of that game doesn't mean anything, so there's no point in spending all that time and money to play for 5-10 minutes.

Of course. The question is what happens with the 8 full innings that were played.

The game still shows as suspended on the Sept. 28th scores page at MLB.com, and the standings page still shows the Mets and Marlins with 161 games played.

Westheim · 10-02-2023, 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

There were three teams which finished 2023 with 100+ wins and four teams which finished with 100+ losses.

Is that the first time that has happened?

My, you must have short memory!

Basically every full-sized season since 2019!

Note: I only looked at the expansion era with the 162-game schedule.

2002:
Yankees (103 W), A's (103 W), Barves (101 W)
Devil Rays (106 L), Tigers (106 L), Brewers (106 L), Royals (100 L)

2019:
Astros (107 W), Dodgers (106 W), Yankees (103 W), Twinkies (101 W)
Tigers (114 L), Orioles (108 L), Marlins (105 L), Royals (103 L)

2021:
Giants (107 W), Dodgers (106 W), Rays (100 W)
Orioles (110 L), Diamondbacks (110 L), Rangers (102 L), Pirates (101 L)

2022:
Dodgers (111 W), Astros (106 W), Mets (101 W), Barves (101 W)
Nationals (107 L), Athletics (102 L), Pirates (100 L), Reds (100 L)

2023:
Barves (104 W), Orioles (101 W), Dodgers (100 W)
Athletics (112 L), Royals (106 L), Rockies (103 L), White Sox (101 L)

Honorable mention goes out to 2018:
Red Sox (108 W), Astros (103 W), Yankees (100 W)
Orioles (115 L), Royals (104 L), White Sox (100 L)

There is no season with four 100+ W teams and three 100+ L teams since 1962.

Le Grande Orange · 10-02-2023, 03:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Westheim

My, you must have short memory!

Basically every full-sized season since 2019!

I never paid that much attention to the numbers of teams in each category until this season and the race for the bottom between Oakland and Kansas City. It seemed unusual.

I stand corrected.

Antonin · 10-02-2023, 03:59 PM

It's sad to see Terry Francona retire as manager of the Guardians. But it was a fun ride! It would be nice to see Sandy Alomar as our next manager.

Westheim · 10-02-2023, 04:19 PM

Also, fun fact: three of the teams that lost 100+ games in 2021 are in the playoffs right now.

MathBandit · 10-02-2023, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by monkeyman576

Postseason predictions:
AL Wild Card
Blue Jays def Twins 2-1
Rays def Rangers 2-0

NL Wild Card
Brewers def D-Backs 2-1
Phillies def Marlins 2-1

AL Division
Orioles def Blue Jays 3-1
Rays def Astros 3-2

NL Division
Braves def Phillies 3-1
Brewers def Dodgers 3-2

LCS
Orioles def Rays 4-2
Braves def Brewers 4-0

World Series
Braves def Orioles 4-3

Orioles host Rangers/Rays, not Jays/Twins.

Cobra Mgr · 10-02-2023, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

I never paid that much attention to the numbers of teams in each category until this season and the race for the bottom between Oakland and Kansas City. It seemed unusual.

I stand corrected.

I was wondering something similar this weekend. Then went to baseball reference & saw it wasn't that uncommon. But I'm like you. This season I've paid more attention to baseball than I have in at least a decade if not more.

Amazin69 · 10-03-2023, 12:11 AM

Worth noting that for all the hand-wringing over Oakland, there are two teams who have lost more games within the previous five seasons alone.

There does seem to be a new level of frequency wrt 110-loss teams, though. I thought the "glory" days of the Asstros and Scrubs tanking for draft position were supposed to be over?

Westheim · 10-03-2023, 04:21 PM

Four outs into the playoffs, and I am already tired of ABC in general and Jeff Passan singing about Randy Arozarena in particular.

Westheim · 10-03-2023, 05:45 PM

Rays have collected 15 outs and made four errors and that latter is a generous tally.

Cobra Mgr · 10-03-2023, 06:49 PM

How do you give up a 4 pitch walk when you are ahead 4 zip w/2 out in the bottom of the 9th?

low · 10-03-2023, 11:39 PM

Bob Uecker deserves so much better than this.

Cobra Mgr · 10-04-2023, 09:14 AM

Plenty seats available in Tampa.

Westheim · 10-04-2023, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Westheim

The SNY booth was convinced yesterday that the game would be scored a 1-0 Mets win, reverting to the last completed inning.

It will definitely not be wiped, since eight innings were played and it is thus "official".

It's in the books now.

MLB in their infinite wisdom decided that today as if the damn Fish would have come back to Flushing *now*, let alone the already scattered Mets, who, fun fact, finished their season on Sunday.

David Watts · 10-04-2023, 03:42 PM

Note to American League fans. Win the lotto, so you don't have to have a day job.

kq76 · 10-04-2023, 05:59 PM

I really like this umpire perspective camera. I'm a bit surprised MLB okayed it as it could lead to even more bitching about the umps. Or it could just say to everyone: hey, it's not as easy as many of you might think. Either way, I like it. I'd like to see it in OOTP.

Le Grande Orange · 10-04-2023, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Westheim

It's in the books now.

MLB in their infinite wisdom decided that today as if the damn Fish would have come back to Flushing *now*, let alone the already scattered Mets, who, fun fact, finished their season on Sunday.

The old rules are still in effect, and the game reverted to the score after 8 completed innings.

The box score for the game incorrectly attributes it to Oct, 2nd. This seems to be a shortcoming on MLB's website, as suspended games are always attributed to the date the game was started, not completed.

Cobra Mgr · 10-04-2023, 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by kq76

I really like this umpire perspective camera. I'm a bit surprised MLB okayed it as it could lead to even more bitching about the umps. Or it could just say to everyone: hey, it's not as easy as many of you might think. Either way, I like it. I'd like to see it in OOTP.

Pulling a tooth ain't easy. But you expect the 50 best dentists in the world to have no problems doing it.

And that's the problem w/a small percentage of these umps. I don't think their job is easy. But they are supposed to be the best, most experienced, the best trained people for the job. So I expect them to handle their assignment easily. And that small percentage doesn't.

Cobra Mgr · 10-04-2023, 08:52 PM

Come on Brewer fans. You're better than that!

monkeyman576 · 10-04-2023, 09:49 PM

Can't believe the Rays are out after their '84 Tigers-an start.

10-02-2023, 03:59 PM	#1064
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10-02-2023, 04:19 PM	#1065
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10-03-2023, 04:21 PM	#1069
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 13,862	Four outs into the playoffs, and I am already tired of ABC in general and Jeff Passan singing about Randy Arozarena in particular. __________________ Portland Raccoons, 92 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

10-03-2023, 05:45 PM	#1070
Westheim Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: Germany Posts: 13,862	Rays have collected 15 outs and made four errors and that latter is a generous tally. __________________ Portland Raccoons, 92 years of excell-.... of baseball: Furballs here! 1983 * 1989 * 1991 * 1992 * 1993 * 1995 * 1996 * 2010 * 2017 * 2018 * 2019 * 2026 * 2028 * 2035 * 2037 * 2044 * 2045 * 2046 * 2047 * 2048 * 2051 * 2054 * 2055 * 2061 1 OSANAI : 2 POWELL : 7 NOMURA \| RAMOS : 8 REECE : 10 BROWN : 15 HALL : 27 FERNANDEZ : 28 CASAS : 31 CARMONA : 32 WEST : 39 TONER : 46 SAITO Resident Mets Cynic - The Mets from 1962 onwards, here.

10-03-2023, 06:49 PM	#1071
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Amazin69 Banned Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Palmetto Pride! Posts: 4,218 Infractions: 0/4 (4)	Worth noting that for all the hand-wringing over Oakland, there are two teams who have lost more games within the previous five seasons alone. There does seem to be a new level of frequency wrt 110-loss teams, though. I thought the "glory" days of the Asstros and Scrubs tanking for draft position were supposed to be over?

10-03-2023, 11:39 PM	#1072
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10-04-2023, 05:59 PM	#1076
kq76 Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 11,830	I really like this umpire perspective camera. I'm a bit surprised MLB okayed it as it could lead to even more bitching about the umps. Or it could just say to everyone: hey, it's not as easy as many of you might think. Either way, I like it. I'd like to see it in OOTP. __________________ My OOTP Wishlist \| My FAQ List OOTP Wiki \| Your Recommended Team Nicknames, By City (A Crowdsourced Project) For Beta/Devs: Full screen (1920x1080)

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10-04-2023, 09:49 PM	#1080
monkeyman576 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2010 Posts: 3,692	Can't believe the Rays are out after their '84 Tigers-an start.