At least 5.3% of baseball writers are idiots...

dougaiton · 10-04-2003, 02:52 PM

That's the number that didn't vote for Willie Mays to be a first ballot HOF.

6.8% didn't vote for Musial, 6.6% for Ted Williams...

AND 4.9% FOR BABE RUTH! One in twenty sports writers didn't think the Babe deserved to be honoured in the hall?

??? Any ideas on their reasonings?

holyroller · 10-04-2003, 02:53 PM

I dunno, but I would certainly venture to guess that the actual percentage of idiots amongst BB writers is much much higher than 5.3.

Hammer755 · 10-04-2003, 02:56 PM

There truly are some head-scratchers out there. One that gets me is that Nolan Ryan was on 99% of the ballots, and I thought it would be much less than that.

Complete List of HOF Vote %

streetballer67 · 10-04-2003, 03:18 PM

I'd say close to 50% of all sports writers in general are idiots.

scoobz0202 · 10-04-2003, 05:45 PM

I'd say close to 99% of all sports writers are smarter then me.

I'd say I disagree with 65% of all sports writers.

AngelinOF · 10-04-2003, 05:57 PM

I think most of the voters got caught up in Ryan's strikeout totals and didn't look at the broad scope of things and see that he really wasn't that great of a pitcher.

Babe Ruth was also on the first ballot ever inducted so perhaps some sports writers just got the rules wrong, hell some may have even thought he was still playing since his last year was prior to his induction. It is surprising that Cobb got more votes then Ruth since you always hear stories about how hated he was.

kq76 · 10-04-2003, 07:21 PM

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Originally posted by AngelinOF
It is surprising that Cobb got more votes then Ruth since you always hear stories about how hated he was.

I wonder what % Bonds will get then.

EDIT: Huh, Gehrig got 0%??

http://www.baseball-reference.com/awards/hof.shtml

AngelinOF · 10-04-2003, 08:04 PM

I'm not sure if writers as as fickle nowadays as they use to be, I know that Ted Wiliams lost out on a couple of MVPs due in large part to his relationship with writers.

December 7, 1939: Lou Gehrig, age 36, is unanimously elected to Baseball's Hall of Fame (Special Election), the sole choice this year. The five-year waiting period is waived for the Iron Horse.

EagleEye_0 · 10-04-2003, 08:41 PM

Maybe these show the percentage of writer's wives that the players boinked.

daKing · 10-05-2003, 03:53 AM

5.3% isn't a bad figure considering that Americans don't really trust 99.9% of politicians at their word.

Also, in my travels across the galaxy I'ld say that 57.1563% of people are truly idiots. This means that baseball writers are over 1000% better than the average Joe.

If we all had the same opinion, this world would suck.

Skipaway · 10-05-2003, 01:14 PM

The percentage thing is messed up from the very begining. Since the very first selections did not get the full vote, lots of voters got into the mind set of " he's not as great as Ruth, so I'll not let him get a percentage higher than Ruth". Some voters would categorize players into "first ballot HOF", "second ballot HOF", and so, and would not vote for the player until they feel the time is comfortable.

Jason Moyer · 10-05-2003, 08:56 PM

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Originally posted by AngelinOF
I think most of the voters got caught up in Ryan's strikeout totals and didn't look at the broad scope of things and see that he really wasn't that great of a pitcher.

Part of the problem with Ryan is that everyone, players/fans/media included, were completely in awe of his athleticism, to the point where they were unable to separate it from what he actually accomplished as a player.

Jason

Bored · 10-06-2003, 12:08 AM

The other 94.7 are morons.

holyroller · 10-06-2003, 03:08 AM

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Originally posted by Bored
The other 94.7 are morons.

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Chappy · 10-07-2003, 11:03 AM

Not only did Cy Young have to wait until the second year, but he only was on 76% of the ballots. Odd.

10-04-2003, 02:52 PM	#1
dougaiton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Location: Posts: 3,414	At least 5.3% of baseball writers are idiots... That's the number that didn't vote for Willie Mays to be a first ballot HOF. 6.8% didn't vote for Musial, 6.6% for Ted Williams... AND 4.9% FOR BABE RUTH! One in twenty sports writers didn't think the Babe deserved to be honoured in the hall? ??? Any ideas on their reasonings?

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holyroller Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OTBL Forums Posts: 3,532	I dunno, but I would certainly venture to guess that the actual percentage of idiots amongst BB writers is much much higher than 5.3. __________________ Back to work, but not drawing a paycheck. TonyJ et. al.'s alias “I confused it with the chicken’s neck,” Mocanu, who was admitted to the emergency hospital in Galati, was quoted as saying. “I cut it ... and the dog rushed and ate it.”

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streetballer67 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Upstate NY Posts: 2,004	I'd say close to 50% of all sports writers in general are idiots. __________________ Visit Here!!!

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daKing Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Cheeseland Posts: 11	5.3% isn't a bad figure considering that Americans don't really trust 99.9% of politicians at their word. Also, in my travels across the galaxy I'ld say that 57.1563% of people are truly idiots. This means that baseball writers are over 1000% better than the average Joe. If we all had the same opinion, this world would suck. __________________ Please email me any snacks you find under your couch cushions!

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Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	The percentage thing is messed up from the very begining. Since the very first selections did not get the full vote, lots of voters got into the mind set of " he's not as great as Ruth, so I'll not let him get a percentage higher than Ruth". Some voters would categorize players into "first ballot HOF", "second ballot HOF", and so, and would not vote for the player until they feel the time is comfortable. __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

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Hammer755 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,348	There truly are some head-scratchers out there. One that gets me is that Nolan Ryan was on 99% of the ballots, and I thought it would be much less than that. Complete List of HOF Vote %

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scoobz0202 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Celina, Ohio Posts: 969	I'd say close to 99% of all sports writers are smarter then me. I'd say I disagree with 65% of all sports writers.

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AngelinOF All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,353	I think most of the voters got caught up in Ryan's strikeout totals and didn't look at the broad scope of things and see that he really wasn't that great of a pitcher. Babe Ruth was also on the first ballot ever inducted so perhaps some sports writers just got the rules wrong, hell some may have even thought he was still playing since his last year was prior to his induction. It is surprising that Cobb got more votes then Ruth since you always hear stories about how hated he was.

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AngelinOF All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,353	I'm not sure if writers as as fickle nowadays as they use to be, I know that Ted Wiliams lost out on a couple of MVPs due in large part to his relationship with writers. December 7, 1939: Lou Gehrig, age 36, is unanimously elected to Baseball's Hall of Fame (Special Election), the sole choice this year. The five-year waiting period is waived for the Iron Horse.

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EagleEye_0 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,426	Maybe these show the percentage of writer's wives that the players boinked.

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Bored Bat Boy Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: huh? Posts: 8	The other 94.7 are morons. __________________ bleh

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Chappy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2,721	Not only did Cy Young have to wait until the second year, but he only was on 76% of the ballots. Odd. __________________ NPBL - Pennsylvania Freedom AFBL - North Carolina Aviators MLB-Pro - Kansas City Royals