Draft Pick Signed, Then NOT Signed

[DSinSoCal]

I drafted a player and was notified that he accepted my offer and joined my organization. I know that he wasn't on my DFA list (if that matters) because I was already DFA-ing another player at the time and that was the only player there.

2 months later, I get another email notifying me that I failed to sign the drafted player.

What am I missing here?? And how do I fix this? I tried to remedy the issue by switching to commissioner mode, but I didn't see any way to correct this. I even tried "cloning" the player but he's not showing up in the free agent list like he's supposed to.

Any help would be appreciated.

[kq76]

Was there news that he decided to take up basketball or football instead? And you might think I'm joking, but I'm not, check the news about him.

[DSinSoCal]

Nope. I ran a search for the player's name and those are the only two notes I received.

[DSinSoCal]

His player page now says he's in college (Vanderbilt)... which he couldn't do if he had previously signed a contact with me.

[kq76]

Someone else might be able to come up with another way, but if the reason doesn't matter, you just want him back, go into commissioner mode, go to his profile, click on the editor tab, scroll down on the left, and then with the bottommost pull-down, select your league, and then from the pull-down that pops up, select your team.

(I think I might have just broke a personal record for most commas in a sentence.)

[DSinSoCal]

Interesting development. I checked my transaction log and somehow I signed the guy *twice* during the draft. Looking back, I do kind of remember thinking, "Hmm, I thought I clicked "draft player" on him already".

So, somehow, I drafted the player, but the screen didn't update; and then I drafted him again in the next round (thinking I was still in the same round as before).

I signed one version, and the other version went unsigned. Unfortunately, the one that signed a contract seems to have vanished, "poof".

What a buggy game. Between this and the random crashes I'm starting to not see a point in playing anymore. Spending hours to develop a team only to have it sabotaged by goofy programming kind of takes the wind out of my sails.

[DSinSoCal]

Originally Posted by kq76

Someone else might be able to come up with another way, but if the reason doesn't matter, you just want him back, go into commissioner mode, go to his profile, click on the editor tab, scroll down on the left, and then with the bottommost pull-down, select your league, and then from the pull-down that pops up, select your team.

(I think I might have just broke a personal record for most commas in a sentence.)

BINGO! Thank you very much. This is exactly what I was looking for.

Worked perfectly.

Alrighty, the wind is back in my sails again.

[OutS|der]

Originally Posted by DSinSoCal

BINGO! Thank you very much. This is exactly what I was looking for.

Worked perfectly.

Alrighty, the wind is back in my sails again.

Also if you're anal like me, go into the player history tab and edit in the info that he signed with you.

[kq76]

I'd be surprised if the game let you re-draft a guy you already drafted in the same draft. I know it'd be incredibly unlikely, but maybe there's two SPs named Owen Hall in your draft (maybe one was cloned accidentally?). If you open that news log in your web browser and hover over the name links you'll see # identifiers in the URL. For example, they'll end with "player_###.html". Are the #s different for those 2 picks?

[Bluenoser]

Could do a player search for Owen Hall, see how many come up.

I have seen players with the same name on occasion.

[Lukas Berger]

Originally Posted by DSinSoCal

and the random crashes I'm starting to not see a point in playing anymore. Spending hours to develop a team only to have it sabotaged by goofy programming kind of takes the wind out of my sails.

As mentioned it's very possible there are two players of the same name in that draft.

As to crashing, the game is pretty stable and really should not be crashing for you, certainly not frequently.

If it is, there are a few things that can help. First off, if you go to settings > troubleshooting > and hit the button to 'force reinstall game data'. Sometimes if the install of the most recent patch did not fully take, which can cause issues, that will fix things.

Beyond that, it's also very helpful to make sure to whitelist OOTP in any anti-virus or anti-malware apps you have running, as those can sometimes conflict with the game and cause issues.

[ayaghmour2]

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

Could do a player search for Owen Hall, see how many come up.

I have seen players with the same name on occasion.

This was my first guess, but it is the 2024 class. Just booted up a standard game and there was only one Owen Hall. Committed to Vandy for what it's worth

Originally Posted by kq76

I'd be surprised if the game let you re-draft a guy you already drafted in the same draft. I know it'd be incredibly unlikely, but maybe there's two SPs named Owen Hall in your draft (maybe one was cloned accidentally?). If you open that news log in your web browser and hover over the name links you'll see # identifiers in the URL. For example, they'll end with "player_###.html". Are the #s different for those 2 picks?

Unless kq is right and the player was accidentally cloned. Funny a pretty talented player would be available in the 6th too, but not impossible

I tried cloning my Owen Hall, and this time he did NOT have a commit school of Vanderbilt. I imagine the double-drafting is a bug, but DSinSoCal it's worth checking what kq posted above first. I think post-draft commit school disappears, but any chance you remember if it listed Vandy for the guy you signed to?

[DSinSoCal]

Originally Posted by kq76

I'd be surprised if the game let you re-draft a guy you already drafted in the same draft. I know it'd be incredibly unlikely, but maybe there's two SPs named Owen Hall in your draft (maybe one was cloned accidentally?). If you open that news log in your web browser and hover over the name links you'll see # identifiers in the URL. For example, they'll end with "player_###.html". Are the #s different for those 2 picks?

Both players in the transaction log link to the same player page... Owen Hall, born 11/14/05, committed to Vanderbilt. Neither of them show draft info though. "Acquired: Draft Pick (2024, Rd: 0 - Ovr Pk: 0).

I know for a fact that there was only one of them on the draft board. I was sorting pretty hard (by Stuff) and I picked him form a very short list of players. I would have noticed if there were two of them.

What a weird glitch.

[DSinSoCal]

Originally Posted by ayaghmour2

Funny a pretty talented player would be available in the 6th too, but not impossible

He was listed as a "very difficult" sign, so his draft stock fell. Plus, despite the 70-rated "stuff", his overall potential was still only 2.5 stars. There were a LOT of 2.5-star players still available in the 6th round. Heck, the player my AI drafter took in round-20 still had 2.5 star potential.

[DSinSoCal]

Here's the "complete history" tab for the player...

It shows him being drafted twice. lol. Then it shows him signing a minor league contract for $1.1 million ... and then "failed to sign" in September.

[ayaghmour2]

Originally Posted by DSinSoCal

Here's the "complete history" tab for the player...

It shows him being drafted twice. lol. Then it shows him signing a minor league contract for $1.1 million ... and then "failed to sign" in September.

Ahh yeah definitely a bug. Worth putting it in this forum: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...lay.php?f=4057

Information on how to submit too: https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...d.php?t=352812

[OutS|der]

Originally Posted by DSinSoCal

Here's the "complete history" tab for the player...

It shows him being drafted twice. lol. Then it shows him signing a minor league contract for $1.1 million ... and then "failed to sign" in September.

Any chance the game crashed just after you drafted him?

Yeah that's a total bug and needs to be reported.

[Pelican]

But not to be lost in this, drafting high school guys always carries the risk they will decide to turn down the offer and go to college. That should always be a risk in the game. Which is why I favor college guys, with more track record, closer to the majors, zero risk of not signing.

[DSinSoCal]

Originally Posted by OutS|der

Any chance the game crashed just after you drafted him?

Yeah that's a total bug and needs to be reported.

Nope. The game inexplicably crashed on me the night before though ... after the playoffs ... in December ... just before the game was set to auto-save at the end of the year. So, I got to replay the entire season over again AND i learned a valuable lesson. lol

[DSinSoCal]

Originally Posted by Pelican

But not to be lost in this, drafting high school guys always carries the risk they will decide to turn down the offer and go to college. That should always be a risk in the game. Which is why I favor college guys, with more track record, closer to the majors, zero risk of not signing.

Ya, had he just opted not to sign I would have written if off as just part of the realism of the game.

I will say though, after playing for a bit, I don't like the way the game handles the ratings system AT ALL. They're way too arbitrary, wildly fluctuating up and down for seemingly no reason. What good are the "potential" ratings when they can arbitrarily change so drastically?

I drafted a 5-star prospect and had several consecutive scouting reports over the course of a year showing 70 stuff/55 movement/70 control. I put him through an off season program to improve his pitch movement, which (shockingly) was actually successful!

I immediately pulled up the player page so I could see how much this young man had improved but, instead, I saw the exact opposite. Instead of improving, his MOV rating (both current and potential) stayed the same. Then I noticed that my scouting director filed a new report arbitrarily knocking him down to 55/55/65.

Really? A 15 point drop in "stuff" when the kid hadn't even thrown a game in 6 months? How is that even possible? He went from a "top of the rotation" prospect to a guy who now just "has the potential to be a middle of the rotation starter".

It's very WTF-y.