Montreal Expos

[bestbrother]

If i started a historical game as the Expos say in the mid-90s... will their move to Washington happen without me having any say?

[Brad K]

There's a setting for that and I think it defaults to moving teams.

[LansdowneSt]

It's a Historical Game Setting. From the manual:

Historical Progressing Settings
Historical Progressing Options control how your league behaves between seasons.

Automatically expand league (toggle on or off): Automatically expands your historical league at the precise time that real-world leagues expanded. OOTP will automatically handle changes in team names, nicknames, league structure, etc.

If you turn it off, you will need to manually create Tampa, Arizona, Colorado, Florida, etc. You may also need to manually add the NL DH rule to etc.

[bestbrother]

Thanks, so if i say take on the Expos from 98 ish, i think all teams are in the league and i can just have an alternate timeline that keeps the MLB in that state?

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by bestbrother

Thanks, so if i say take on the Expos from 98 ish, i think all teams are in the league and i can just have an alternate timeline that keeps the MLB in that state?

Yes, it should just then be the DH rule, Collective Bargaining evolution, rule changes, etc. that you need worry about. Without the auto-evolution on, 2005 will come and the game will not consult the database to move the team.

[uruguru]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

Yes, it should just then be the DH rule, Collective Bargaining evolution, rule changes, etc. that you need worry about. Without the auto-evolution on, 2005 will come and the game will not consult the database to move the team.

If you turn evolution off, I believe you will also not get new ballparks

[snarls200]

also logo and nickname changes won't happen

[Syd Thrift]

Originally Posted by snarls200

also logo and nickname changes won't happen

You can manually change all of that; additionally, uniform changes will happen so long as you’re using a good uniform set.

[meh]

Interesting thread, one thing I have noticed is that the Indians do not revert to their name in historical mode and remain the Guardians.

How do you account for that and make it realistic?

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by meh

Interesting thread, one thing I have noticed is that the Indians do not revert to their name in historical mode and remain the Guardians.

How do you account for that and make it realistic?

It will revert to Guardians if the league is evolving. Same way it would check to see if the Exposes or Browns moved. Or if the Braves are the Bees. If it is not evolving automatically and all league growth and rule changes are manual, team names should stay and be whatever you want to call them, be it Indians, Spiders, Lake Mistakes, whatever. If you want to play with evolution in history on, and have names stick, you need to use a customized file or two. They are out there, if you search for mods.

The removal of the old name is a requirement of the Guardians team and all usage of the MLB license is conditioned upon it. No MLB License and, well, we'd be changing all the names every year. There was a time that's how it was here...

[oldfatbaldguy]

Originally Posted by LansdowneSt

The removal of the old name is a requirement of the Guardians team and all usage of the MLB license is conditioned upon it. No MLB License and, well, we'd be changing all the names every year. There was a time that's how it was here...

But if ONE team name is bugging a user, that user could just change it in that team's Settings tab, right?

[jcard]

Really, there have to be more worthy hills on which to die.

[LansdowneSt]

Originally Posted by oldfatbaldguy

But if ONE team name is bugging a user, that user could just change it in that team's Settings tab, right?

Yes, but if historical auto-evolution is on though, the game will consult the file to get the correct name for the next season though. So, Florida becomes Miami, Braves become Rustlers, or Bees, or Braves, etc. as they did per history. So, you'd have to change it each year with evolution on. In Montreal's case, each year as commissioner, you'd go to the Team Settings and change the city, name, ballpark, etc. (remember to hit enter after each change). It's not terribly hard but more a pain. Then when 2023 comes, it will stop changing so you can put the Nats back in Montreal or move Oakland to Vegas and there will be no historical file for the game to consult to overwrite those changes.