Position Ratings - way to hide current rating??

[koohead]

I just noticed that in the position ratings section, it is showing what I assume to be Current and Potential ratings at a position. I have current ratings disabled and it seems to be right everywhere else (Overall, batting and pitching ratings, etc)...but can't seem to figure out where to turn off the position ratings? Is there a way?

[Syd Thrift]

Those are the “other” ratings, which will also turn off the speed, strategy, and defensive tools ratings. I have to be honest, I play stats only but leave those on because there’s not a really great comp to them with stats. For infielders, for example, sure, ZR works well and you can look at FA for error rate or to see if a guy is just plain not cut out for the position, but I like putting players at positions based on those tools, not the derived stats. So am otherwise decent middle infielder with no arm gets put at second whereas you can get away with hiding a guy with poor range at third if he has a cannon and good hands.

[koohead]

Correct...those are the 'other' ratings. but why does it show what I assume to be current vs potential ratings?
Under Game Settings, there is only 1 'other ratings' drop down option and I can only select none displayed or the various scales (1 to 5, 1-10, 20-80, etc). I don't recall 22 or any version prior showing 2 different ratings for a position like this?

[koohead]

Here is what that section looks like in 22

[Rain King]

Anytime you see a split rating like that, the player has "some" experience at the position but also has room to improve.

This was essentially a design decision for OOTP23.

In OOTP22 you had no idea how much experience a player had at a position nor what their potential was at a position unless, as some had done, you figured out what that was based on their raw skills.

Now, you can find out earlier whether it is worth it to continue training a player at a position as well as how far along they are.

[koohead]

Well shoot. I understand the logic behind the design decision, but kind of liked not knowing.
thanks for confirming that I'm not missing something in my settings.

[jimmysthebestcop]

you can actually see every players potential fielding position rating at every position even if they never played a game there and currently isnt listed under player profile.

potential fielding at xyz position is a column that you can add in the player sorted lists.

[Syd Thrift]

Originally Posted by koohead

Well shoot. I understand the logic behind the design decision, but kind of liked not knowing.
thanks for confirming that I'm not missing something in my settings.

FWIW they’re not considered the same as batting ratings. There is no hidden potential for fielding, just an “experience” rating you can max out to 250 by playing a player at the position for a couple years. All the game is doing here is asking how well the player would field if that rating was maxed out. It’s something you could more or less grok by osmosis once you were experienced enough with the game but this means newer players don’t need to jump through that particular hoop.

[koohead]

*Edited the original subject line because I realize that what I do not want to see is the possible potential/maxed out value.

File this under "I wish I did not know that".

There are so many ways to game the game...and this was one of the ways that made it feel more like real life versus a game. I assume that a SS moving to 2B would eventually have the same rating/experience, but a LF moving to 1B is sometimes a crapshoot. Or a 3B moving to 2B or LF. Makes playing around with position changes in the minors and during ST an aspect of the game. Now being able to see it all is rather anti-climactic.

[Pelican]

I think of it this way: probably guys once played another position, even if it was high school or Babe Ruth or tee ball. Just like almost all position players pitched at one time or another, because they were better than everybody else. Scouts would know this, or, heck, the players would know this and tell their coaches. So, it’s not unrealistic that a manager would have this kind of information at his disposal. Of course, some outfielders could never play infield, because they can’t field a ground ball or snap a quick throw. Few position players can catch. Corner IF and OF cannot generally play CF or SS or 2B. Potential position options need not be a total mystery. But it is confusing to see the multiple ratings - and to not know how long it would take to get from the lower number to the higher number.

[Rain King]

I mean, these ratings are derived completely off of their skill ratings...which have always been visible.

They potential rating does not get displayed unless they have at least played the position. So, there is a prerequisite that you have to actually play them at the position before getting the additional information. I've not experimented to see how quickly things show up (I assume the potential rating doesn't show until at least a minimal current rating has been earned).

[koohead]

Good points both of ya.

[Rain King]

Originally Posted by koohead

Good points both of ya.

I'll say it was definitely an odd way to implement this feature (particularly without the ability to disable it if desired). I believe it was probably more geared towards PT.