3 Man Rotations

[GiantYankee]

I'm interested in having a 3 man rotation for college and HS feeders.
Does the AI adjust the pitcher's stamina? So If I used CC Sabathia in a college feeder does the AI adjust so when CC pitches his next start he will be at full strength? Any differences if when using a MLB type scheduling playing every day as opposed to a college schedule where in general they play Fri-Sun? I'm still trying to trouble shoot the "No starting pitcher" error message that continues to crash the game. I'm thinking that the crash may be due to 3 man rotation and starters being too tired to pitch.

[reds1869]

I believe the adjustment would have to come in the schedule for the league. Pitcher stamina is not going to increase because of a three man rotation, the schedule is going to have to be adjusted to match a weekend only schedule to get realistic results without editing the players.I've never tinkered enough to know if that is even possible.

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by GiantYankee

I'm interested in having a 3 man rotation for college and HS feeders.
Does the AI adjust the pitcher's stamina? So If I used CC Sabathia in a college feeder does the AI adjust so when CC pitches his next start he will be at full strength? Any differences if when using a MLB type scheduling playing every day as opposed to a college schedule where in general they play Fri-Sun? I'm still trying to trouble shoot the "No starting pitcher" error message that continues to crash the game. I'm thinking that the crash may be due to 3 man rotation and starters being too tired to pitch.

The 3 man roatation and starters being tired won't cause your game to crash. It'll leave you with a lot of tired pitchers who are very likely to start getting injured due to fatigue. Pitchers need rest, it doesn't matter what size rotation you use.

The "No starting pitcher" is your problem. Check the AI controlled teams to make sure they all have a rotation filled out. Try going to league setup and running computer manager on all teams.

[olivertheorem]

You'd probably need to change the setting away from the default (low?), but I don't know off-hand if that would cause the pitchers to just throw more pitches per start or let them "regenerate" faster.

I don't have the game in front of me atm, but you could start a historical league from a time when 3-man rotations were used (no idea when that would be), and see what the starter settings are, then copy those and use them for your feeders.

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by olivertheorem

You'd probably need to change the setting away from the default (low?), but I don't know off-hand if that would cause the pitchers to just throw more pitches per start or let them "regenerate" faster.

I don't have the game in front of me atm, but you could start a historical league from a time when 3-man rotations were used (no idea when that would be), and see what the starter settings are, then copy those and use them for your feeders.

that would work you would just need to change stamina settings to high or very high in the league strategy....you would get healthy starters every 3 days but they would be pitching like 130 pitches a game so the bullpen would be off, you would really only need 2 or 3 guys in the bullpen and any used would be rested the next day

[GiantYankee]

Originally Posted by reds1869

I believe the adjustment would have to come in the schedule for the league. Pitcher stamina is not going to increase because of a three man rotation, the schedule is going to have to be adjusted to match a weekend only schedule to get realistic results without editing the players.I've never tinkered enough to know if that is even possible.

Changing the schedule was my first thought. I hesitate because it's not the easiest process to change the schedule, but I'm thinking I can get the results that I'm looking for with a schedule change.

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

The 3 man roatation and starters being tired won't cause your game to crash. It'll leave you with a lot of tired pitchers who are very likely to start getting injured due to fatigue. Pitchers need rest, it doesn't matter what size rotation you use.

The "No starting pitcher" is your problem. Check the AI controlled teams to make sure they all have a rotation filled out. Try going to league setup and running computer manager on all teams.

I did run cpu manager on all teams and no luck. I decided to delete and created my league from scratch (about 270 total teams) and didn't make any adjustments except for 1961 settings. I'm currently simulating 5 seasons and so far so good.

Originally Posted by Mortimer

that would work you would just need to change stamina settings to high or very high in the league strategy....you would get healthy starters every 3 days but they would be pitching like 130 pitches a game so the bullpen would be off, you would really only need 2 or 3 guys in the bullpen and any used would be rested the next day

I would prefer not to change the stamina settings. I want an ace pitching an occasional 130 pitch outing, not having that as a common occurrence by the 5th starter. Also would like to have a typical bullpen for the time period.


Thanks guys for the feedback.

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

that would work you would just need to change stamina settings to high or very high in the league strategy....you would get healthy starters every 3 days but they would be pitching like 130 pitches a game so the bullpen would be off, you would really only need 2 or 3 guys in the bullpen and any used would be rested the next day

That setting does not make pitchers get rested faster, it just means they'll go much deeper into games. They still need regular rest,

[Mortimer]

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

That setting does not make pitchers get rested faster, it just means they'll go much deeper into games. They still need regular rest,

It seemed to do both when I tested it. I created a small league with 3 men rotation and high stamina. Then simed a bit with 3 min rotation and it seemed that they were ready at 3 days rest...but they were pitching 130 pitches a game...it is similar to a league made around 1900.

I was hoping leaving reliever use in modern day that they would pitch more like 100 a day and used up the bullpen...but it did not work that way.

[GiantYankee]

How do I get the change to 3 man rotation to stick? My feeder is in 1964 with auto adjust totals for historical accuracy & auto adjust league strategy. Are one of these factors affecting my 3 man rotations?

[English_Ray]

Originally Posted by GiantYankee

How do I get the change to 3 man rotation to stick? My feeder is in 1964 with auto adjust totals for historical accuracy & auto adjust league strategy. Are one of these factors affecting my 3 man rotations?

The auto-adjust league strategy will change the rotation settings to match what was used in real life.

[GiantYankee]

Originally Posted by English_Ray

The auto-adjust league strategy will change the rotation settings to match what was used in real life.

Thanks!

[redwa]

i pretty much have always run a 3 man rotation with a 90 game schedule. The games still come out to one off day a week or so. I have the overall pitching set at normal stamina. This gives me a proper number of hitters. I noticed with setting the overall stamina to high or very high you get less pitchers and more outfielders.

This is where the change needs to come for everything to work properly in my league. In the modifier section look for "starting pitcher stamina" and change that to 1.300. With that starters come up with proper rest (or at least for me).

With 90 games: the pitchers at the major league level tend to get 25 to 30 starts (depending on performance and injury). the league leaders get between 16-21 wins with around 2.50 ERA's. A couple pitchers always get 200 innings.