2 RBIs?

Childress · 04-28-2010, 09:25 PM

Men on 2nd and 3rd. The batter, Bowman, hits a fly to left- which the LF drops (this happens a bit too much in the OOTP universe)- and two runners score. The pitcher in not charged with any earned runs. However, Bowman is credited with 2 RBIs in the box score.

Can someone explain?

And, yes, our pitcher's name is Buxtuc Madu.

damientheomen3 · 04-28-2010, 10:17 PM

Only three threads? We aren't gonna help you until you make at least 5.

OutS|der · 04-28-2010, 10:43 PM

ummm its called an error so the runs arent earned
they were batted in so that is what an rbi stands for
and after 3 posts your out

Kiko1313 · 04-28-2010, 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by OutS|der

they were batted in so that is what an rbi stands for

Wrong, you don't get RBI's if the runners score due to an error. Should be zero RBI's on this play.

If there were less than 2 outs, the official scorer could have ruled that the runner from 3rd would have scored on a sacrifice fly if there was no error, but the runner on 2nd wouldn't have scored on that so the batter would get credit for a sac fly, and 1 RBI (no RBI for the runner from 2nd scoring).

Bigrod · 04-28-2010, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiko1313

Wrong, you don't get RBI's if the runners score due to an error. Should be zero RBI's on this play.

If there were less than 2 outs, the official scorer could have ruled that the runner from 3rd would have scored on a sacrifice fly if there was no error, but the runner on 2nd wouldn't have scored on that so the batter would get credit for a sac fly, and 1 RBI (no RBI for the runner from 2nd scoring).

And the pitcher would be charged 1 ER as well..I'd submit a support ticket on it. to make sure it doesn't get overlooked..A few issues were brought up in beta and are marked to be fixed in Patch..So till then, I wouldn't worry about it..but do submit a ticket on it as we want to know..

Eckstein 4 Prez · 04-29-2010, 12:49 AM

Yeah, with two outs that's 0 ER and 0 RBI. With less than two outs it's probably 1 ER and 1 RBI. Under no circumstances is it 0 ER and 2 RBI.

I think I may be the (inadvertent) cause of this. The game used to give no RBIs in a lot of situations where it should have, and I spent several versions complaining about it. It looks like it's been fixed, but rather haphazardly, so now we have RBIs being given where they shouldn't be.

Killing Time · 04-29-2010, 01:24 AM

Thanks, now we're worse off than before.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 04-29-2010, 02:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Killing Time

Thanks, now we're worse off than before.

That's it! No RBI for you!

Childress · 04-29-2010, 09:59 AM

Buxtuc Madu shows an ERA of 5.47 over six seasons. We probably should have sent him down to AA several years ago but feared running afoul of Title VII or, God forbid, the ACLU. He's from Zululand.

Hickman, on the other hand better shape up pronto.

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...which the LF drops (this happens a bit too much in the OOTP universe)

Prior to Ver9 infielders in OOTP infield errors were inevitably flubs resulting in a single base for the hitter. This was improved subsequently. Now infielders, particularly as the defensive spectrum moves from right to left, will overthrow 1B and the batter takes an additional base.

In the outfield, however, the game seems to strive to produce accurate fielding numbers at the expense of reflecting how most errors occur there; namely misplayed hits and errant throws on cut-off attempts. There are still too many dropped flies, imo- a relatively rare occurrence. In Bowman's example, this more plausibly should have been a single to LF that took a wicked hop and went throw the left-fielder's legs or a wild throw to home into the box seats producing one earned run and one unearned run.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 04-29-2010, 11:34 AM

I wonder how they came up with the ratio on outfield errors, because as you say dropped fly balls are relatively rare compared with throwing errors or muffed line drives to give the hitter an extra base.

Childress · 04-29-2010, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Eckstein 4 Prez

I wonder how they came up with the ratio on outfield errors, because as you say dropped fly balls are relatively rare compared with throwing errors or muffed line drives to give the hitter an extra base.

Because they're working off the template of Reggie Jackson's performance in RF during the '78 World Series?

The incident I reported is a minor bug but OOTP could use some refinement in this aspect of the game, no doubt entailing some extra coding and pbp entries.

kckid4u · 04-29-2010, 01:12 PM

I don't know. There's been a ton of dropped fly balls in real life baseball this season so far. You see one almost every game.

Childress · 04-29-2010, 09:29 PM

You're talking about Major League Baseball? Yes, it happens but not in epidemic fashion.

Fact is, I'm not seeing any cut-off miscues or pooched base hits in the OF in game. Maybe something worth considering for OOTP12.

04-28-2010, 09:25 PM	#1
Childress Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 180	2 RBIs? Men on 2nd and 3rd. The batter, Bowman, hits a fly to left- which the LF drops (this happens a bit too much in the OOTP universe)- and two runners score. The pitcher in not charged with any earned runs. However, Bowman is credited with 2 RBIs in the box score. Can someone explain? And, yes, our pitcher's name is Buxtuc Madu. Attached Images

04-29-2010, 12:49 AM	#6
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,358	Yeah, with two outs that's 0 ER and 0 RBI. With less than two outs it's probably 1 ER and 1 RBI. Under no circumstances is it 0 ER and 2 RBI. I think I may be the (inadvertent) cause of this. The game used to give no RBIs in a lot of situations where it should have, and I spent several versions complaining about it. It looks like it's been fixed, but rather haphazardly, so now we have RBIs being given where they shouldn't be. __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

04-29-2010, 11:34 AM	#10
Eckstein 4 Prez Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: The OC Posts: 6,358	I wonder how they came up with the ratio on outfield errors, because as you say dropped fly balls are relatively rare compared with throwing errors or muffed line drives to give the hitter an extra base. __________________ Looking for an insomnia cure? Check out my dynasty thread, The Dawn of American Professional Base Ball, 1871.

04-28-2010, 10:43 PM	#3
OutS\|der Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: In A Van Down By The River Posts: 2,757 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	ummm its called an error so the runs arent earned they were batted in so that is what an rbi stands for and after 3 posts your out

04-29-2010, 01:12 PM	#12
kckid4u All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Pictured Above: Buck Barnett - Best Pitcher in OOTP History! Posts: 957	I don't know. There's been a ton of dropped fly balls in real life baseball this season so far. You see one almost every game.

04-29-2010, 09:29 PM	#13
Childress Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 180	You're talking about Major League Baseball? Yes, it happens but not in epidemic fashion. Fact is, I'm not seeing any cut-off miscues or pooched base hits in the OF in game. Maybe something worth considering for OOTP12.