This is too far... even for the NFL

Russ · 09-02-2007, 12:33 AM

The NFL suspends 48 year old Wade Wilson from his quarterback coaching duties because he used performance enhancing drugs to combat a legitimate disease.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3000615

Jordan · 09-02-2007, 12:50 AM

So dumb. I mean really now. Are we going to suspend anybody anytime somebody takes a pill of something? Or any drug?

Big Hugg · 09-02-2007, 01:15 AM

Why wasn't he taking them legally?

I'm not saying he should be suspended, but why did he illegally obtain them if he's fighting a disease? Couldn't he have just gotten a prescription?

APujols5 · 09-02-2007, 01:24 AM

I personally believe it was well founded. IF this was about his disease, why not go the doctor and get a scrip for them? He cheated the system, now he's paying the price. Keep up the good work Mr. Gooddell, about time someone cleans up the cess pool known as the NFL

Skipaway · 09-02-2007, 01:30 AM

I think the more interesting issue is that why is he suspended more game than a player would. Funny rules.

bababui · 09-02-2007, 01:38 AM

Crap decision and an ironic post from Pujols about cleaning up a cesspool.

jazzrack · 09-02-2007, 01:53 AM

nm, it wasn't funny after all.

His Own Bad Self · 09-02-2007, 03:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Skipaway

I think the more interesting issue is that why is he suspended more game than a player would. Funny rules.

I agree exactly. Shawne Merriman and Rodney Harrison get four games, a coach gets five.

This is one reason I really don't enjoy the NFL anymore.

Syd Thrift · 09-02-2007, 03:52 AM

I'm sure that it has to do with something along the lines of the NFLPA having an agreement with the NFL that a player can't be suspended more than 4 games for a first-time offense. Whereas Wade Wilson is not a member of the NFLPA and the league gets to suspend him for as long as they see fit. If he thinks that's unfair, he should unionize or something.

Skipaway · 09-02-2007, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

I'm sure that it has to do with something along the lines of the NFLPA having an agreement with the NFL that a player can't be suspended more than 4 games for a first-time offense. Whereas Wade Wilson is not a member of the NFLPA and the league gets to suspend him for as long as they see fit. If he thinks that's unfair, he should unionize or something.

Surely coaches are much more replaceable than players, therefore they have less bargaining power.

However, this got nothing to do with NFLPA. It got everything to do with what NFL wanted to do. They didn't have to suspend him for five games or fined him so much.

Syd Thrift · 09-02-2007, 12:59 PM

Well, of course it has to do with what the NFL wanted to do. The fact that he got 5 games suspension where first-time offending players get 4 has to do with the fact that the NFL can only suspend them 4 games under the basic agreement, not because the NFL "wants to" suspend them just 4 games.

QuestGAV · 09-02-2007, 01:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Russ

The NFL suspends 48 year old Wade Wilson from his quarterback coaching duties because he used performance enhancing drugs to combat a legitimate disease.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3000615

As far as I know there's no legitimate reason to take HGH to combat diabetes.

Russ · 09-02-2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by QuestGAV

As far as I know there's no legitimate reason to take HGH to combat diabetes.

It's not like he's playing football or competing in the Tour de France either way.

Skipaway · 09-02-2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

Well, of course it has to do with what the NFL wanted to do. The fact that he got 5 games suspension where first-time offending players get 4 has to do with the fact that the NFL can only suspend them 4 games under the basic agreement, not because the NFL "wants to" suspend them just 4 games.

But the question is why would they want to suspend Wilson for five games and fine him a larger portion of the salary? NFL surely have control on what they want to do with Wilson.

Skipaway · 09-02-2007, 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by QuestGAV

As far as I know there's no legitimate reason to take HGH to combat diabetes.

I think it's possible he's buying it for someone else. If that's the case, it's even more insulting for NFL to only punish him as opposed to start some deeper investigation.

Syd Thrift · 09-02-2007, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Skipaway

I think it's possible he's buying it for someone else. If that's the case, it's even more insulting for NFL to only punish him as opposed to start some deeper investigation.

Skip, come on man. Read the article. The suspension came as the *result* of a fairly deep investigation into an Internet pharmacist.

Skipaway · 09-02-2007, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

Skip, come on man. Read the article. The suspension came as the *result* of a fairly deep investigation into an Internet pharmacist.

If they really believed Wilson's reasoning, then the punishment seemed too severe. That was exactly the point people were trying to say.

If there were doubts on that, therefore the punishment is so severe, than it just seems the investigation is not deep enough.

Which one is it?

andjbock · 09-05-2007, 09:41 AM

I find it interesting how Rodney Harrison is gettng zero backlash from the national media.

Skipaway · 09-05-2007, 12:06 PM

NFL overall just got ignored on this issue. WWE and MLB are the real villains! Great PR work I guess.

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Russ All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Essex HON! Posts: 1,923 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	This is too far... even for the NFL The NFL suspends 48 year old Wade Wilson from his quarterback coaching duties because he used performance enhancing drugs to combat a legitimate disease. http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3000615 __________________ If you don't love Russ, you don't love America. This post brought to you by Carl's Jr. Last edited by TC Dale; 09-02-2007 at 02:32 AM.

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Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	I think the more interesting issue is that why is he suspended more game than a player would. Funny rules. __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

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bababui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,147 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Crap decision and an ironic post from Pujols about cleaning up a cesspool. Last edited by bababui; 09-02-2007 at 02:03 AM.

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jazzrack Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: still kicking Posts: 3,229	nm, it wasn't funny after all. __________________ . "Never confuse composure for ease" Was once Head Cheese of Corporate League Baseball Last edited by jazzrack; 09-02-2007 at 01:54 AM.

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Skipaway Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Where you live Posts: 11,017	NFL overall just got ignored on this issue. WWE and MLB are the real villains! Great PR work I guess. __________________ Jonathan Haidt: Moral reasoning is really just a servant masquerading as a high priest.

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Jordan All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chi Suburbs now... Posts: 1,995	So dumb. I mean really now. Are we going to suspend anybody anytime somebody takes a pill of something? Or any drug?

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Big Hugg All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2004 Location: Columbus, OH Posts: 933	Why wasn't he taking them legally? I'm not saying he should be suspended, but why did he illegally obtain them if he's fighting a disease? Couldn't he have just gotten a prescription?

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APujols5 Banned Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: CP Indiana Posts: 1,667 Infractions: 1/3 (3)	I personally believe it was well founded. IF this was about his disease, why not go the doctor and get a scrip for them? He cheated the system, now he's paying the price. Keep up the good work Mr. Gooddell, about time someone cleans up the cess pool known as the NFL

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andjbock Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Somerville, MA, USA Bats: Right Throws: Left Posts: 3,637	I find it interesting how Rodney Harrison is gettng zero backlash from the national media.