Seeing if this is balanced regarding market size

[canadiancreed]

Ok this is what i'm thinking here for markets and corresponding population size:

Slightly Above Average: 500,000 - 1 mil. Two cities fit here (Montreal, Toronto)
Average: 100,000 - 499,999 - Four cities fit here (Winnipeg, Vancouver, Hamilton, Ottawa)
Below Average: 50,000 - 99,999 - Five cities here (Quebec City, Calgary, Edmonton, London, Halifax)
Small: 10,000 - 49,999 - Roughly thirty or fourty cities fit here

If two or more teams are in one city, the market size for each is reduced by two levels. For example two teams in toronto woudl reduce each team from slightly average to below average. No affect on loyality ratings.

If there's a college that plays in the CUBA there, it raises the market size by one level. For example there's three in Toronto, so the market for one team would be rated as really big from above average.

So thoughs on this? balanced or no? suggestins are welcomed

EDIT: These are population figures from 1921, for folks that are wondering what the heck I was smoking when I came up with these numbers

[Bluenoser]

Population of HRM (Halifax Regional Munincipality) weighs in at around 300K.

[Bluenoser]

Edit - never saw the 1921 date until after my post. My bad

[canadiancreed]

Originally Posted by BruceM

Edit - never saw the 1921 date until after my post. My bad

it's all good. no-one has thoughs on this I take it?

[kq76]

My only thoughts are:

Balancing it around average like you have is probably best.

Originally Posted by canadiancreed

If two or more teams are in one city, the market size for each is reduced by two levels. For example two teams in toronto woudl reduce each team from slightly average to below average. No affect on loyality ratings.

I wouldn't reduce it by 2 levels. I'd only split the pop and then see where they fit. So, using your levels say Toronto for example had 750K with 2 teams I'd look at what level 375K is (average). If Montreal had say 2M and 3 teams I'd look at what level 667K is (saa). One might think that if there's more than 1 team it should be lowered even more than divided by how many teams, but I'd argue that the close rivalry would help interest rather than hurt it.

Looking at the Australian Football League for example there were like 8-12 teams from Melbourne or very close to Melbourne for like a century or more. Of the current 16 there are still like 10 from Melbourne. And Melbourne is not even Australia's largest city! They do love their sports though and that's why they can support so many teams.

In my solo Canadian league for v7 out of 32 teams I'm going to have 4 teams in Toronto and 3 in Montreal just to try to get that feel of close rivalries. I'm not going to bother much with the markets though, just set them to average and let the game take them wherever.

Originally Posted by canadiancreed

If there's a college that plays in the CUBA there, it raises the market size by one level. For example there's three in Toronto, so the market for one team would be rated as really big from above average.

I wouldn't bother with that especially since there were far fewer colleges and universities back in those days and how the growth across the country has not been the same.

[canadiancreed]

Originally Posted by kq76

My only thoughts are:

Balancing it around average like you have is probably best.

Thanks I figured that would be the logical way

Originally Posted by kq76

I wouldn't reduce it by 2 levels. I'd only split the pop and then see where they fit. So, using your levels say Toronto for example had 750K with 2 teams I'd look at what level 375K is (average). If Montreal had say 2M and 3 teams I'd look at what level 667K is (saa). One might think that if there's more than 1 team it should be lowered even more than divided by how many teams, but I'd argue that the close rivalry would help interest rather than hurt it.

Looking at the Australian Football League for example there were like 8-12 teams from Melbourne or very close to Melbourne for like a century or more. Of the current 16 there are still like 10 from Melbourne. And Melbourne is not even Australia's largest city! They do love their sports though and that's why they can support so many teams.

In my solo Canadian league for v7 out of 32 teams I'm going to have 4 teams in Toronto and 3 in Montreal just to try to get that feel of close rivalries. I'm not going to bother much with the markets though, just set them to average and let the game take them wherever.

A very good point. I was thinking of having it so the market was compensated by increased fan loyality, aka like the Dodgers, Giants and Yankees of old. However I think that your method would be better and more balanced. On the list that I got thee's some spots that have large suburbs (Montreal, Vancouver and Winnipeg to be literal), so they would avoid said ruling. Kind of like a Brooklyn of sorts.

Originally Posted by kq76

I wouldn't bother with that especially since there were far fewer colleges and universities back in those days and how the growth across the country has not been the same.

Well i'm basing it based on which colleges are in the CUBA so that was the reasoning. I found out later that most didnt exist in the 20's but by then I figured heck with it.